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The Old Arcade, Wigan

The Old Arcade.
Again demolished for the Shopping Centre. This was home to shops like Sherringtons who sold pots and pans, washing tubs, scrubbing boards, posses etc. Smiths newsagents where a well known (to Wiganers) Frank Ryding worked and now runs his own stall in the New Market Hall. Who was the man who had the weighing machine? What was his name?. Gorner's Cafe, the aroma of hot food made you feel hungry. And of course The Legs of Man (must have been the longest pub in the country) as it went from the top to the bottom of the arcade, what about the reputed ghost, who was he? Does anybody know?

Comment by: Jim Holding (Wigan, UK) on 17th July 2009

So Gordon you went to the Linance and now live in Texas...you have my sympathy. Hope the rest of your life picks up,,

Comment by: C, Higham (Wigan, GB) on 17th June 2009

I recall a Tommy Rimmer who went to St Thomas's and Wigan Grammar. Is it the same bloke?

Comment by: dorothy nee rimmer (hornsea e riding , england) on 27th April 2009

tommy and doris were my parents did not go very often along corridor leading to top legs.too scary never saw reputed ghoet.

Comment by: jane nee meadows (wigan, britain) on 3rd February 2009

i remember most of the above mentioned specially the man with the scales n mi mum makin me n my sister get on them(embarrasing r what;D) but my best memories are the market hotel n the park hotel does anyone remember my brother tony AKA CUSTER?

Comment by: Patricia (WIGAN, Lancashire) on 27th October 2008

I remember when I was small going picking fireworks out of a glass case at the top of the arcade with my dad, jumping jacks was a favorite we used to set them off in the garden and they would flirt all around great fun then.

Comment by: christine yates (wigan, lancs) on 29th September 2008

l used to work at gorners as a 14yr old saturday girl round about 1967 the older ladies who worked there were called Cissie and Florrie and a waitress named Madge. Florrie used to give me a woodbine to smoke on my break chipping potatoes in a bath in the cellar Gino and Ceasar were the owners sometimes l had to go in the cellar with a candle to get a fruit cake from the bowels of the cafe it was like goin into a dungeon yes all for £1 and a free dinner. chips pudding and peas jam roly poly and custard l don't remember any bullies there except for the waitresses who used to shout for plates it was heck oof a job to keep up with demand those were the days

Comment by: joe berry (wigan, uk) on 21st June 2008

the little arcade was like a morrocan souk the noise and the smells,,a hive of activity and life.with its charicters,,for me it was a tunnel to heaven,,the old market..with its snake oil sellers outside,remember a very old man doing handstands selling the elixier of youth the hedgehog cream seller who was a gypsey,,the guy who sold you pools perms that would make you rich beyond your wildest dreams,,allthat against the records stall blaring out all the latest music(magic,,as a 15 year old boy it was magic,,as i became older it was my stairway to heaven,,walking down to the park hotel and the market hotel to meet my mates or better still a lady,remember clapper and pappa the market hotelwas full of very strange peoplefrom the highest to the lowest inthe town,,you would have ken cowap at one endf of the bar and micky dalton at the other,,colin cook the landlord the best i have ever known??and mrs brown at the park so regal she was like the wigans queen mother allways a welcome and a smile,,,anyone got memories of park and market????joe518au

Comment by: Kathy McKie (Newark, Notts, UK) on 18th June 2008

Mention this to my Mum who said that her friend' mother's cousin (talk about our cat ran up their entry!) was married to the Weighing Machine man and she THINKS his name was Mr Williams (obviously a close family!) Hope this helps.

Comment by: Catherine Wallace (Oakville, Canada) pre 2009.

I went to Wigan Tech & College from 1946 to 1949 and would often walk through the arcade to the buses to go home to Golborne. I always found it very intriguing and at times a little frightening.

Comment by: Margaret Crabtree (Llandudno, North Wales) pre 2009.

I used to work on Margaret Razaq's stall in The Old Arcade 1963 onwards until we moved to Makinson's Arcade and then to Market Street, so I am probably the one you bought your tights from, Barbara!!! Does anyone remember me? Happy days!!

Comment by: john macfarlin (wigan, lancs) pre 2009.

regarding Tony Lannons memory of the legs of man pub, i remember his dad syl running one of the bars while his grandad ran the other

Comment by: alan irving (Budapest, Hungary) pre 2009.

I remember shopping with me mam and our kid on Saturday mornings followed by dinner in Gorners and then buying football programmes from the shop opposite.Late 50s and early 60s. Also the big toy shop in the basement of what became JJBs - it was grat playing in the lift - not may lifts in them days.

Comment by: christine (eunice) little (wigan, england) pre 2009.

i worked in gorners cafe in 1968-69 age 14 i was always washing up,i also remember working with an elderly lady and all she ever did was cook fish in a dep fat fryer! but i just cant remember her name!!!she was very nice to me because i remember getting bullied from some of the older girls that worked there and she took me under her wing!i also remember the free dinners every sat and the the lovely aroma that came from the cafe,i wish it was still there as i had so many good times!wigan will never be the same again (unless they knock down the galleries and put it back to how it was!!!what a fantantic tourist attraction it would be,as its lost all its charm character of the fab sixties.oh happy memories!!

Comment by: Jane Atkins (Wigan, England) pre 2009.

My mum and dad (Bernard & Margaret Gaynor) owned B & M Gaynor leather goods stall. (handbags)for many years there and then moved to the new market hall umtil 1998 when he then retired. I remember spending every Saturday with my mum and dad helping them at work going round to all the stalls especially the pet stall whee I would help out. I also remember having to go and buy tripe for my nan for her Saturday tea with vinegar which used to make me feel sick. I loved that market hall and everyone looked out for each other

Comment by: B. Taylor (Wigan, UK) pre 2009.

Well Fred if you look at that photo now you will see that Ashley Smith isn't on the photo. A dude called Frank Healy has named all the motley crew. You probably thought Dickie Downing was Ashley Smith. Dicky looks and was a bit more determined than Ashley Smith.

Comment by: Fred Mason (Carlisle, England) pre 2009.

Hi mate, Yes I have seen the picture of the masters and I DO recognise Joe Bozz.*&%^$"£! Is that our headmaster in the back row, Dr J W Ashley Smith, I believe. A true gentleman. What is your first name? B Taylor.

Comment by: B. Taylor (Wigan, U.K) pre 2009.

Fred. Have you seen the photograph of the old Wigan Grammar school teachers on the Abum/Schools page. Can you name any of them?

Comment by: Fred Mason (Carlisle, England) pre 2009.

Yo, gang, Thanks to ces ellison and B.Taylor. I found the picture of our cross country runners and yes I am on the left. How good to see all the old boys again. The faces never fade from memory do they. Is that you, Ian Whitaker from Sherwood Drive?, and Fred Bamber who I met up with again in Vancouver in the 70's?

Comment by: Carol Burns (nee Ramsden) (Caloundra, Qld Australia) pre 2009.

My grandfather,Thomas Ramsden used to have a medical herbalist shop in the old Arcade.He was also the Mayor of Wigan and was also an artist. I also had aunt and uncles who had fruit stalls in the Market hall(Derbyshires).Does anyone remember them. Carol Australia.

Comment by: I. Whitaker (Preston, England) pre 2009.

Me and the mates used to run riot in the little arcade when were at school in our dinner hour. When the weigh man went for his dinner I would sit on his chair crying "try your weight now friends". We got banned from Gorners for loosening the salt vinegar and pepper tops. There was Curly Dowdall, Dixie Dean, Norm Melling, Jaz Holding, Dave Ridout and Cliff Higham. There were stalls with canvas tops just outside the arcade at the bottom, on rainy days Cliff would run under the canvas and tip the collected rain onto the punters underneath while we created a diversion. Good old days.

Comment by: C. Tricket (Wigan, England) pre 2009.

No Gladys I'm Colin. Clive is a book keeper and works in an office in Charles Street.

Comment by: Gladys Rampage (Wigan, UK) pre 2009.

Hi C. Tricket. Is your name Clive? If so I think I know you.

Comment by: B. Taylor (Wigan, UK) pre 2009.

Are you the Freddy Mason on the Grammar School Cross Country pic on this site. Left school about 62?

Comment by: ces ellison (wigan, uk) pre 2009.

Yoh! freddy mason. Hope you managed to contact some of your owd mates form the contacts I gave you. Heres a few more volunteered by my mates – thinks your age. dave clough regular in Bellingham pub. Cliff higham bellingham pub and royal oak in standishgate. dave flemming works wigan infirmary frequents brocket. james holding lives near ben Johnson. Probably find him in phone book. Let you know if I find anymore. Organize a get together and I'll come to.

Comment by: C. Higham (Blackrod, England) pre 2009.

Mary Wood. I think the Subby you mean now lives in Chorley. I’m not sure if he had anything to do with Wigan RL but he did once play at Wigan RU and was, probably is fond of a pint. He was well known on Wigan Lane. I can’t say just how active he is today.

Comment by: Alan Cheetham (Frankfurt, Germany) pre 2009.

I remember a haberdashery shop just outside the opld arcade. It was located at the bottom and to the left. Does anyone recall the name op the pld lady that ran it?

Comment by: ces ellison (wigan, uk) pre 2009.

freddy mason. heard rumour at local x grammar lads met recently. maybe your age? yed cod apparently bernard dowdall contact lady bose lion pub in beech hill. made enquiries others present. geoff ashton frequents bellingham pub and tennis club. geoff hardman horwich motor house horwich. billy brown (beech hill). clive tricket (springfield). sam bass (fireplace shop darlington street) and others. try these contacts.

Comment by: Jo Hayes (Adelaide, Australia) pre 2009.

Worked on the market with my mum in the late 50's early 60's. We sold chickens fruit & vegetables and other general produce. Out on the square on Fridays under cover in the market rear entrance on Saturday. Loved going for walks inside the Market Hall and the Arcade. Lunchtime we"d go to the cafe at the bus station, meat & potato pie peas chips & gravy. Can taste it now, oh what memories. Cheers Jo

Comment by: Fred Mason (Carlisle, England) pre 2009.

I loved reading the memories of the little arcade from everyone. When I was 15 (1961) I worked at McAvoys butchers in the old market hall and walked to the bus stop along the arcade to catch the bus home to Pemberton. My boss was old Mr McAvoy, a true gentleman and also Gerry Burgess and Jimmy Peet. Before that I went to Wigan Grammar School and remember well, Clapper, who stood outside the fruit market clapping his hands. What a character and smell the little arcade had. I would love to hear from old friends from that era. fred@cumbriancrafts.co.uk

Comment by: bill davies (wigan, uk) pre 2009.

I remember going down into there with me mum she worked at the wool shop near the top legs always think about the size of the legs of man ,i was too young ever to to go in ,never mind as long as wigan lives on .

Comment by: Mary Wood (Wigan, Lancashire) pre 2009.

Comment for c.tricket, was Subby involved with Wigan rugby as I faintly remember a bloke by the nickname and fond of a pint Mary, Wigan

Comment by: D. Sumner (Chorley, UK) pre 2009.

Sorry C. Tricket not guilty. Never known as Subby - honest. What lane?

Comment by: Maureen (wigan, uk) pre 2009.

Hi Beth I also remember the sweet shop in millgate ,I also remember your brother Colin he was my first sweet heart,small world.

Comment by: Maureen (wigan, U K) pre 2009.

I remember my mother taking me to Gorners cafe ,we would have the hotpot and red cabbage it was so good ,It was our friday treat if I was off school

Comment by: C. Tricket (Wigan, En gland) pre 2009.

Are you the D.Sumner once well known to all landladies and landlords on the lane and in and around the neighbourhood affectionately known as Subby.

Comment by: Dave Sumner (Chorley, Eng.) pre 2009.

Old granny Sumner said her name was Bithel. Alas she's no longer around to confirm.

Comment by: Bill Whelan (London, UK) pre 2009.

"Bill D'Arcy and reunification with his loved one. Does any one remember her name". Was it Mary Hogan ? The chickens on a spit were at Percivals opposite the back entrance to the British Home Stores. There was a self service cafe at the back of BHS as well.

Comment by: Christi (Wigan, Lancs.) pre 2009.

I rememer well the old arcade. As I tiny child I would go to Wigan with my Aunt, and always stopped off in the old arcade to see my Great Uncle Jack. He owned a wireless stall about 2 or 3 stalls up the arcade away from Smiths. In later years I bought my first mini dress from the other side of the aracade. It was pink Crimpolene and had a lacy see through midriff(Fast Cas or what)!! Uncle Jack then moved to the next business which was opposite Wigan Wallgate Station and was a sweet shop.( Great for me)

Comment by: Mark Richardson (Leigh, England) pre 2009.

As a young child of about 8 i remember going shopping on Saturdays at the Fish Market, i recall going past a butchers shop where rabbits etc were hanging from the front of the shop, also a spit roasting chickens in another shop next door.These shops were at the bottom of Makinsons arcade across the road to the right. Near there was abaked potato seller too. Does anybody recall the baked Potato cafe on the old Wigan Bus Station?

Comment by: Joe Henry (Chorley, England) pre 2009.

My grandmother was manageress at Gormers Cafe early 1900's. Her name was Miriam Evans before she married my Grandad. There was a photograph of her on the wall in the cafe. Does anyone know what happened to this photograph?

Comment by: m.rudd (chorley, lancs) pre 2009.

my aunties worked in gorners cafe,they were twins madge and dolly.does anyone remember them .our mary we never called her auntie it was allways our mary ,was dot callands best friend .they had flats in blackpool as well .we used to stay there in the school hollidays .the summers were hotter then i am sure .i remember the tar melting on my new sandals. brilliant times

Comment by: Elaine (Wigan, UK) pre 2009.

I remember the Old Arcade, I used to love it. I don't remember all the previously mentioned shops, but i remember the weighing chair and Smith's book shop, and the pleasure I got from just walking down it, but I thought Sherrington's was in Makinson's Arcade?? It was in the 60s anyway. It does seem a shame that what could have been a great tourist draw if it had been still here, was demolished for the Wigan Precinct that is now half empty.

Comment by: graham grange (christchurch, new zealand) pre 2009.

Iremember bob thewieghing machine man, I know that at one time he was courting an aunty of mine . I used togo for my dinner at gorners when I worked at dewhurst butchers inthe 1950s.

Comment by: tony ( billy ) (wigan, england) pre 2009.

i can remember a fantastic toy shop near the old market mi mam used take me there as a young lad i think it was called kiddy land toys a fantastic toy shop long gone (shame)my lads wud of loved it.

Comment by: Anthony. (Wigan, England) pre 2009.

I remember Callands toy shop, it was the best in Wigan for many reason's.The most important one to me being that it sold Top-Trumps.Did anyone else buy those card games in the late 70's or early 80's? Yeah! them were the days alright.

Comment by: Tony Lannon (Wigan, England) pre 2009.

"The Legs Of Man Pub" was the longest pub in the British Isles. I was fortunate enough to be there quite a great deal as, the Landlord & Landlady for a while were my grandparents Thomas & Doris Rimmer.I used to remember on a Sunday Lunchtime looking out of the big windows at the Market Hall with Casinnelis Ice Cream Van sat their & my Grandad tormenting me for a while before he'd take me down & buy me an ice cream ! Fantastic! Everyweek we would do the same.Does anyone remember the dog ? he ( Prince ) used to wait under the grates in the floor in the arcade for people to stand on them, then frighten them to death by barking ! A police Man & Woman used to be his main targets if I remember rightly.

Comment by: pauline (wigan, uk) pre 2009.

yes i remember callands my husband and i bought our first childs pram off them in 1972.

Comment by: NEIL CALLAND (WIGAN, LANCS) pre 2009.

I REMEMBER PETTICOAT LANE, IT DEFINITELY DID EXIST! DOES ANYONE REMEBER JUST ROUND THE CORNER OF THE OLD ARCADE A TOY SHOP CALLED 'CALLANDS'WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID IN THE LATE 70'S EARLY 80'S I THOUGH IUT WAS MY DIVINE RIGHT TO HAVE LOADS OF TOYS FROM THIS SHOP AS MY NAMES CALLAND TOO, UNFORTUNATLY THE OWNERS WERE NO RELATION.

Comment by: nikki (hindley, wigan) pre 2009.

can just about remember the old arcade - fond memories. Loved reading everyone's memories too. Can anyone remember Petticoat Lan - or is a figment of my imagination?? nikki

Comment by: karen connolly (nee Berritta) (bolton, england) pre 2009.

Before marriage my name was karen berritta and my parents, Brenda and Gino owned Gorner's cafe from the early 60s until the end. They bought the cafe from Mrs Gorner who became my brother, Roberto's godmother and we used to visit her at her Southport home. I spent much of my childhood running up and down the arcade, pestering the life out of Margaret Razak, Syd Smith and Des Forshaw(Dolls' Hospital). When Gorner's was demolished, my family went on to own the Lindley Hotel in Parbold and Roberto's in Wigan. My father is now retired and lives back in Sicily. He visits Wigan twice a year.