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Arthur joins the RMT picket line.

Started by: gaffer (7103) 

Started: 21st Jun 2022 at 14:20

Posted by: whups (8515) 

great . not lost his principles .

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 14:28

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9714)

And what principles are those then ?

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 14:47

Posted by: whups (8515) 

why dont you tell us then .

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 14:50

Posted by: PeterP (9407)

Arthur who You mean that man who lived the life of riley at the unions expense and shafted them by selling/ buying houses paid for by the union

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 14:54

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9714)

Whupsy

I don't want to get into an argument about Arthur Scargill and the miners strike

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 15:06

Posted by: Platty (1358)

TTS: it's what Daisy lives for!

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 16:57

Posted by: whups (8515) 

so why did you put a comment on in the 1st place ? .

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 17:21

Posted by: whups (8515) 

unlike you peter who sold the miners you worked with down the river by your union of nacods being bought off by thatcher .

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 17:23

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Here we go, here we go, here we go....

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 19:55

Posted by: tomplum (9174) 

Platty , I had to think a minute , 'Daisy '

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 20:33

Posted by: tomplum (9174) 

Actually I liked Arthur, All he said to the miners came true and is there for all to see,

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 20:35

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1857)

Peter shame you lot didn't have the blocks to join us especially when you voted to,you lost the right to pass comment

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 22:07

Posted by: whups (8515) 

exactly colin & a bit rich coming from a nacods man .

Replied: 21st Jun 2022 at 23:39

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Plummy: whups a daisy, because he's such a big girls blouse!
My parents lived in WW2 years all their lives, boring us all with tales from the war and how they coped.
Daisy lives in the miners strike and can't move on. If you met him in the street and said, "nice day today," he'd come back with something about the weather during the miners strike.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 07:56

Posted by: Owd Codger (796)

What happen to the Miners in 1984 has led to the situation today that nobody now has any guts to stand up against the employers for better pay, conditions and job security.

That is apart from people in the public transport industry like the members of the rail unions.

Good luck to them, I say!

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 09:03
Last edited by Owd Codger: 23rd Jun 2022 at 09:36:30

Posted by: whups (8515) 

love to sort it out with you platty face to face so to speak . tell me & the rest on here how you suffered at any time . my parents also was in ww2 & i dont see wot that has to do with this blog & your vindictive comments ? . if you want to refer to people as flowers then yours must surely a pansy & pansy platty has a nice ring to it , dont you think

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 11:32
Last edited by whups: 22nd Jun 2022 at 11:34:28

Posted by: whups (8515) 

you also sound like the fool called tony malloy a renowned miners hater . is this you malloy ? .

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 11:38

Posted by: thaknows (552)

They are fighting for all of us not just themselves.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 11:48

Posted by: whups (8515) 

try telling that to pansy platty thaknows.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 12:04

Posted by: grimshaw (3320) 

Well said whups and thaknows.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 12:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9714)

Whupsy said:

"love to sort it out with you platty face to face so to speak"

This why I said I didn't want to talk about Arthur, and the miners, because it always turns nasty, proper nasty.
Whupsy has started threatenin, so we are going to have picket line violence, at Springs Branch

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 14:06

Posted by: PeterP (9407)

TTS Whupsy has threatened a few on WW myself included One of these days he will have some one knocking on his door who does not know him except through the key boards and he may end up getting a good hiding.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 14:23

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Daisy: I love it, "Pansy Platty" nice ring, pretty flower, thank you.

No, I won't tell people how I suffered at any time, it's nothing to do with them, these threads shouldn't be personal, and I'm quite sure they wouldn't be interested. For the record, I have worked very hard for what I have through some suffering, as have a lot of people on here.

I don't know what vindictive comments they are, so can't respond.

The point about WW2 is that each generation has its own event to be remembered and the next generation aren't interested except on a historic level. And then people move on.
Billinge Biker has his caravan and helped his children on their way, TTS has his chickens, Tonker has his palace in Spain, Nanajacqui had her first mortgage at 21 and is now loaded, Plummy has his bike, his hedgehog and his lovely family, Mr Brush has his subservient wife..... What do you have? Any interest in gardening, cycling, rugby, football? Can we hear about it?

I am not a miners hater.

I don't go in for violence. It would be nice if you could keep your posts calm, respectful and perhaps with a balanced view point.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 14:45

Posted by: sonlyme (3160)

Well written response Platty.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 16:27

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4806) 

All i will say on the subject is well done Arthur ...........GB

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 16:35

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1434) 

Kind and sensible words Platty... when I was courting her indoors who lived in hindley.. 7 members if her family worked for the NCB... either on top or in the face... I was a young bobby at the time and was at several locations... kirkless... parkside... golborne... leigh doing my bit (Preventing breach of the peace) I didnt want to be there full stop... but that was my job... I saw her family members all the time... on the picket line and socially... they all knew I wasnt a Maggies boot boy and treated me accordingly.... thats why we are all STILL a strong and caring family on her side... I was never insulted... abused... ignored etc... we laughed about it and I was glad to see the end of it. I honestly hope that the huge volumes of coal that are still there can be hued and decarbonised for good use.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 17:39

Posted by: fossil (7321)

Johnson said he wanted a high wage economy,so let's start with the rail employees.
Good luck to the RMT.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 18:05

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Thank you, people.

BB: I could never understand the difference between the feelings in Yorkshire, total belligerence for the Force from all the miners there, and Lancashire, where it was reasonably good natured and an understanding of the jobs. Those feelings in Yorkshire are still there today.

Maybe a difference in education, which I think is extremely important in being able to see the other side's point of view. Sometimes, with a good argument, I have been persuaded to change my mind, as I'm sure others have.

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 18:09

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1857)

During the strike Yorkshire was policed completely different ,on the whole the local hobbies behaved themselves apart from a few occasions when they as a massive advantage in numbers and got big headed ,the London police broke the law on every possible occasion

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 19:15

Posted by: certacito (206)

Well done Arthur still supporting workers in struggle !

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 22:02

Posted by: whups (8515) 

yes peter p & your the same & 1 day you,ll say something to the wrong person & you,ll be on the end of a beating yourself . you & your racist comments dont go down well but the other racists on here back you up . handsome miner got it right with you & that,s wot you dont like isnt it . and another thing you tell me where i said i was going to give anyone a beating as a face to face can mean a talking it out . like 1stroke you put words in peoples mouths & your foot into yours .as for pansy platty he,s just piss & wind & anyone who,s never worked down a pit & never in that strike will never understand why after all this time it still cuts deep . but you know that peterp coz you & your union got bought off by thatcher even tho you voted to come out & sold the people you worked with down the river . i hope the blood money you got was worth it .oh & by the way talking about buying & selling you shud know a bit about that as that,s wot your union did with the miners

Replied: 22nd Jun 2022 at 23:58
Last edited by whups: 23rd Jun 2022 at 00:03:13

Posted by: whups (8515) 

pansy take a look at your posts to me & then tell us if there,s any vindictive name calling on it ? .calling someone a daisy & a big girls blouse isnt very nice & it,s you that started this with your comments further up this blog . i never called or said anything to you & antagonise this blog . you shud get your facts straight along with 1stroke & peterp .and looking at the comments about arthur it seems you & peterp are in the minority .

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 00:16
Last edited by whups: 23rd Jun 2022 at 00:17:45

Posted by: PeterP (9407)

Whupsy if I in your eyes I print anything RACIST on WW how come these comments have not been deleted by Admin I have been a member since 2006 and not once have I had anything deleted for breaking the rules of this site .Has to Scargill you must have rose tinted glasses has since the strike he has been took to court by the NUM above once over various things about discrepancies with payments for not only his £600000 house but also his £2 million flat which he got for just over £1million and every time he has lost the case. Again you say if some one wants a face to face call round and in your eyes they can have a chat I and many others take this as threatening behaviour not tea and cakes and a frank discussionYou can live in the past if you want but I intend to try to enjoy my latter years has long as my health and my missus health permits

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 08:12

Posted by: basil brush (18301)

Posted by: Platty (1334)

I don't go in for violence. It would be nice if you could keep your posts calm, respectful and perhaps with a balanced view point.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 09:52
Last edited by basil brush: 23rd Jun 2022 at 09:55:35

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Reynard: Nice watch.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 10:37

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Now then Daisy, let's finish this, I think you're getting quite upset and making yourself ill, no-one wants that.

Definition of Vindictive: Tending to seek revenge, spiteful.
I have no revenge to seek on you and I haven't been spiteful.

You started not being nice by wanting to meet face to face "so to speak" and I think that is threatening. My comments before that were light hearted and a bit of fun. Everyone is entitled to their own view, it doesn't matter about minority, majority, it is seeing a different perspective.
If you don't like that, go and live in China where people without your view will be re-educated. (Take grimshaw with you).

With every thread you go back to the miners strike, you pick a fight. Why don't you start your own thread just for you and your chums to reminisce and others can avoid.

It is now some 40 years since the miners strike and you are still wounded.

More seriously, you must be going into old age, life is very short, I think you may have some sort of PTSD and, there is no malice in this just a suggestion, it may help if you get some counselling.
I don't know if you have a family, but surely they are tired of the same old lament. Will your words on your deathbed be, "the miners strike killed me"?

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 10:53

Posted by: basil brush (18301)

With every thread you go back to the miners strike, you pick a fight. Why don't you start your own thread just for you and your chums to reminisce and others can avoid.

Youll end up hijacking that, as well

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 11:02

Posted by: whups (8515) 

you started this name callin pansy & you can see further up this blog . as for you peter p you cant call anyone as you got blood money & went against your own vote & backed thatcher for money . the only person that,s been threatened on this blog is me by you peter p & anyone can see that further up this blog . you said that 1 day someone would knock on my door & give me a "beating" & a good hiding . well all i say to that peterp is that whoever knocks on my door with that intention had better get ready for a almighty scrap . i also know another thing that it wont be YOU as your a coward & i know you would love someone to do it for you as you cant .and maybe those that treat your wife are from "overseas" & the ones you constantly cry about . but maybe admin shud look at your reply to me & maybe it will get took off & you,ll be getting your 1st post took off in your 16yr history

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 11:39
Last edited by whups: 23rd Jun 2022 at 11:44:42

Posted by: grimshaw (3320) 

What a nasty vindictive piece of crap you are platty .

I have my name on here with photos .
I doubt you have the balls to put your photos on or your name
You suggest i should go to China for re education .
I have no need to go anywhere pal ,i assure you .
The recent post to whups is hugely condescending.
You should be ashamed to suggest he needs counselling.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:03

Posted by: basil brush (18301)

He's gone worse since his mentor got skimmed off, Grim

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:07

Posted by: grimshaw (3320) 

Spot on Baz.
My oldest g daughter is teaching in China..Ages from 6 to 12 year old
I have just this minute mailed her to see if she can accomodate platty for a few terms in her class .
Its clear he needs further education .

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:22

Posted by: PeterP (9407)

Whupsy all our family Doctors are has you put it from "overseas" along with most of the Health Professionals we have dealings with and up to now we have had very good service from most of them over the years. I had a run in with a Sister when our 2nd son was born(41 yrs ago) and 2 Doctors over my wife's stroke(10 yrs ago) also a nurse who tried to stop me visiting my wife outside visiting hours(4 yrs ago) all 4 were WHITE Has to being a COWARD so be it I enjoy life and get on with it ,fast approaching 70 and your a long time dead

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:32

Posted by: First Mate (735)

Posted by: grimshaw (3307) View grimshaw's page

Spot on Baz.
My oldest g daughter is teaching in China..Ages from 6 to 12 year old
I have just this minute mailed her to see if she can accomodate platty for a few terms in her class .
Its clear he needs further education .
Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:22

accommodate,

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:37

Posted by: grimshaw (3320) 

F M .
Just testing .
Well spotted albeit a little pedantic..
Keep up the good work.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 12:49

Posted by: sammys (59) 

Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 14:31

Posted by: frecky (419)

Straight forward question.....would anyone on here want to go back to a strike ridden '70s existence ?......A great deal of us on here are now retired and don't have to try getting to work etc, but the vast majority of workers aren't....Mi faither always said, the biggest enemy of the working class IS the working class......he explained that a minority go out on strike but it always punishes the majority....sensible answers please...

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 15:04

Posted by: Gerry Attrick (29)

Good question. I wouldn't want to go back there, the nation became divided and not in a nice way. It was very much public sector versus private sector.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 15:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9714)

frecky said:

"Mi faither always said, the biggest enemy of the working class IS the working class......he explained that a minority go out on strike but it always punishes the majority"

And the word to describe those types who like to go on strike, is to say that they are 'militant' and it is your Whupsies who were 'militant' in the 1970s, and what is this about Thatcher stripping the unions of their power ?

If that was the case, then what the hell is happening now, what is on every news channel now ?

The bloody strike is all they are talking about.

The BA workers have just voted to go on strike.

It doesn't sound to me like the unions were stripped of their powers.

So if anyone disagrees, then please explain it to me.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 17:17

Posted by: Stardelta (9806)

And **tty keeps banging on about ME being disrespectful and a trouble maker

What larks

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 17:32

Posted by: tonker (25273) 

"as for you peter p you cant call anyone as you got blood money & went against your own vote & backed thatcher for money "

What 'vote' is that then?

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 17:50

Posted by: broady (18197) 

And the Village Idiot has had the electric reconnected and the first thing he mentions is people getting “ skimmed off” and he still holds the record. Unbelievable.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 17:52

Posted by: Stardelta (9806)

If you don't mind me pointing it out Boardy, the fact 24 hours has passed without you telling someone about your holidays is also somewhat noteworthy

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 18:02

Posted by: Platty (1358)

TTS: I agree with your post.

Can you, or anyone, tell me if I'm wrong on this one. The BA workers agreed to take a 10% cut in pay during the Covid and now they're just wanting that reinstated.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 19:23

Posted by: fossil (7321)

Platty, seems reasonable seeing that profits are about to rise to 1.4 billion.
c and paste
GMB national officer Nadine Houghton said: ‘With grim predictability, holidaymakers face massive disruption thanks to the pig-headedness of British Airways.

‘BA have tried to offer our members crumbs from the table in the form of a 10% one-off bonus payment, but this doesn’t cut the mustard.

‘Our members need to be reinstated the 10% they had stolen from them last year with full back pay and the 10% bonus which other colleagues have been paid.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 20:24

Posted by: Platty (1358)

Fossil: Yes, but I read a bit more, not much, but this is different from the RMT strike and I think BA is wrong. Perhaps even more will come out yet.

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 20:57

Posted by: fossil (7321)


Fossil: Yes, but I read a bit more

platty ,I could have copied and pasted a bit more,but I posted what I thought was relevant to your question!

Replied: 23rd Jun 2022 at 21:11

Posted by: Owd Codger (796)

The problem today is that we have a different younger generation who have only known the good life and never had to fight for anything to better their standard of living like older people by taking industrial action which includes the lost of money when out on strike.

Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 00:16

Posted by: broady (18197) 

I wonder what %age of my generation (72) have actually been out on strike. I know I haven’t but I may be an exception.

Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 00:28

Posted by: Anne (4163) 

Broady…your words made me think. I cannot recall any of my family going on strike…my generation which is more or less yours and my parents generation as well. My father had six brothers my mother four sisters and a brother, none ever on strike. I expect it was dependent on their work, all of a manual type. Seems they managed well enough for most to eventually own their homes.

Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 07:39

Posted by: Owd Codger (796)

broady

You must have been lucky, because many of the people of our age I have known have been in involved in industrial action of some sort over the years.

In my case, newly married in the early seventies and on strike for seven weeks living on the breadline and three weeks during the Murdoch/Shah printing dispute and other disputes to get better pay, condition's and job security.

Since the Miners strike of 1984. many have never seen any real industrial action until now.




Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 07:48
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Posted by: certacito (206)

I was on strike for the duration of the Miners strike. We would have won but the rest of the trade union movement refused to back us particularly the Notts Miners.

Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 19:31

Posted by: ena malcup (1164) 

Yes. Whilst not necessarily condoning strikes (I have mixed feelings on this topic), I do recall that a series of strikes by rail workers, power workers and such like, witnessed miners coming out in sympathy. These groups then failed to reciprocate when it was the miners out on strike.

Neither justifying, nor condemning this. I genuinely do not know which view is the most honourable stance to take.

I am merely recording my recollection of how things were.

Replied: 24th Jun 2022 at 19:39

Posted by: Owd Codger (796)

There is no longer the same support by the public for Unions taking Industrial action because as time has gone on since the bad strikes of the seventies, people have become more affluent and care less for others who are not on the same level of wealth.

Today, It is called looking after number one and sod everybody else!

For example, how many now know their neighbours by name?

Replied: 25th Jun 2022 at 07:47

Posted by: Gerry Attrick (29)

I know mine OC, but added to your post, I would say the break up of the family has brought about many ills in this country.

Replied: 25th Jun 2022 at 11:37

Posted by: Owd Codger (796)

The community way of life ended in the Thatcher era when she created a land of greed and selfishness which has led to many of the problems we have today like homelessness and lack of housing in a ever increasing population.

Replied: 26th Jun 2022 at 11:04

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9714)

Greed is Good LINK

Replied: 26th Jun 2022 at 11:12

 

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