Interact
Interact


Heinz

Started by: PeterP (9490)

Tesco fighting Heinz over the price of items supplied to them. Lets see who wins. Asda have put their tins of Heinz soup up from 95p to £1-40 a tin.Is this the start of inflation busting prices

Started: 30th Jun 2022 at 08:20

Posted by: basil brush (18483)

don't eat Heinz stuff anymore

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 08:22

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1516) 

The last thing in the world I would eat is a tin of gruel (soup) whoever made it... yuk.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 09:47

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Never my preferred food choice, but I do like to keep a few cans of food as an emergency non perishable reserve. It is something I have had to draw upon from time to time.

More likely to choose Baxter's than Heinz though.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 10:03
Last edited by ena malcup: 30th Jun 2022 at 12:12:33

Posted by: Platty (1489)

PeterP: I read that. I can't understand why Tesco would do that with Aldi, Lidl, etc. and the "price match" game. I think some supermarkets are taking advantage of this hysteria about inflation.

BB: Don't let nj see you type that, she has a bowl everyday.

ena: I keep some tins in, especially in the winer in case I can't get out. I prefer Branston Beans though, wouldn't buy Heinz.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 11:15

Posted by: basil brush (18483)

Heinz has had enough out of me over the years.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 11:44

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1516) 

Ha ha sorry nj.... cant be doing with gruel.... I berate her indoors family on a regular basis.... they pour gruel over their chips

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 11:48

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

It was always salt and vinegar when I was a kid. (chips)

In London, curry sauce seemed to be the fav.

Where I live now, it is chip spice. (easy to make your own, tailored to your taste)

In Holland, they often pour mayonnaise over their chips, fish and pickled gherkin.

Once saw a Brit mock them for this habit. The silly sod then turned around and asked the proprietor if they had any Tartar Sauce.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 12:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Asda

Pack of two chicken Kiev's, for years they have been £1.50, and occasionally down to a £1.00 on offer, or two for £2.50.
Yesterday, up to £2.20 per pack !!!!

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 15:14

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Have they not re-spelled them? Sainsbury have.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 15:16

Posted by: nanajacqui (4210) 

I have a bowl of homemade soup every day , plenty veg & chicken ,lentils, turmaric , basil and garlic,really tasty . Jathbee & Momac make their own soup . Put it in the blender if you like a smooth soup

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 15:20

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Pan or soup-maker?

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 15:31

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Ena

Apparently not, this one is in my freezer, and it still spells in the original way

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 15:34

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Although, thinking about it, menus still say 'Peking Duck' and 'Bombay Duck'.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 19:45

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Just today I've been talking about homemade soup with my next door neighbour,I just love lentil soup but can't find any of the black ones that I used to find in Asda...I know there are other soups but I do love lentil soup.

Replied: 30th Jun 2022 at 20:33

Posted by: Owd Codger (989)

Everybody to their own taste and what they can afford is the norm.

I wonder how many have noticed the increase in the number of shoppers at the smaller and cheaper Supermarket chains these days!

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 08:51

Posted by: basil brush (18483)

I should imagine there was an increase months/years ago

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 10:05

Posted by: Gerry Attrick (40)

I have just been reading about Community Food Clubs. These are not food banks, these are clubs for those on a low income. For £3.50 a week joining fee, the supermarkets donate nearly out of date food, veg and stuff to a drop off point and people can go and get stuff for around £20.

The woman they spoke to said it's very much whatever they donate, a bit like "Ready Steady Cook", but she's saving £hundreds.

I've never heard of them before, has anyone on here? I'm looking into it, if there's any near me and they need volunteers, think I'll go. Might get a discount!

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 12:51

Posted by: gaffer (7167) 

From the Telegraph.

According to insiders, this means the food manufacturer can be tougher on price demands. Heinz is understood to have asked for a more than 30pc price increase at some retailers, described by one industry insider as “unheard of”.
Retail data suggests prices of Heinz products have already risen. According to figures compiled for The Telegraph by Assosia, the average price of a 415g tin of Heinz Baked Beanz at supermarkets is up 22pc since the start of the year. Ketchup, meanwhile, has risen 17pc.
Increases at Tesco have so far not been as pronounced as elsewhere. The supermarket raised its price for baked beans from 85p to £1 last December – a hike of 17.6pc, according to the figures. Asda, however, increased theirs from 90p to £1.20 earlier this month – up 33.3pc – and Sainsbury’s from £1 to £1.20, or 20pc.
“In all fairness to Heinz, who knows what issues they've actually got?” says one canned foods importer, adding that their own costs have been rising in all areas. “There's just nothing that hasn't gone up substantially. Nothing.”
Tomatoes, which used to cost between €7 and €9 (£6 and £7.8) a case are now €15. Prices have gone up 25pc on beans.
Heinz last year cautioned over inflation “across the board”, saying it was struggling with a lack of truck drivers and soaring commodity prices.
Logistics for Heinz’s UK production could also pose a problem. It makes its Baked Beanz at a site in Kitt Green, Wigan, producing 3m cans per day. The UK consumes an average of 2.5m cans of its beans every day.
To make the final product, the company rehydrates imported beans from North America, before combining them with spices and tomato sauce to cook in the can. Relying on imports can lead to further costs amid surging fuel prices.
These challenges will be at the forefront of Heinz’s mind as it faces off against Tesco – a company which has positioned itself as a consumer champion in this battle. Some say the supermarket will ultimately have to give in.
“Here we go again,” says Ged Futter, a former senior Asda buyer. “Of course they will be passing it on… As a wise man once said 'you can't sell fresh air', it might be worth reminding a few of the retailers of this as they seem to have forgotten it.”

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 12:52

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

There is one in Wigan, and it was on the TV about it a couple of weeks ago, and it is at 'The Edge' or as most folk around here would call say,

"Its t'Thedge"

https://communitygrocery.org.uk/wigan/

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 12:55

Posted by: Gerry Attrick (40)

Thank T2S. I don't watch much TV, but the link is welcome.

Do you mean "T'Edge"? And what's the difference between t'edge and t'edge in t'gardin?

How would an outsider know?

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 13:03

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

No I don't mean T'Edge, I mean Thedge, I suppose how you say it depends on where you come from, and how rough yoo are

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 13:20

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

Spider Nugent !

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 13:49

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Good to see you defending our linguistic standards, TTS.

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 14:18

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Why yoga never took off in Wiggin

everytime thinstructor say ands on thighs

Wi cawn't si a bloddy thing!

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 14:33

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Aren't Tesco missing a trick here?

Aldi have regularly held well publicised events where they have shown that in blind taste tests, consumers have rated Aldi own brand as superior to the big name brands with which they compete.

So where are the in store promotional teams, having shoppers sample the competing offers, and helping people to switch from Heinz to a preferred own brand alternative?

Mind, we will have to find a new way of funding commercial TV broadcasting if there is much movement away from purchasing brand recognition items which command a hefty price premium.

Replied: 1st Jul 2022 at 17:07

Posted by: Owd Codger (989)

How can Lidl be rated Supermarket of the year when many of frozen food cabinets are empty?

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 07:20

Posted by: basil brush (18483)

are they empty because it's good value for money?

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 09:45

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

momac,

For lentils, or similar items, I find Indian or Asian stores far the best place to buy.

Once I bought some lychees from Sainsbury, and an Indian work colleague said to me, "They are less than a quarter of that price in the Indian shop".

Went into such a store this morning, going to return to buy one of those flat chapati pans. They are less than half the price of similar on Amazon, and are much better quality.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 11:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

There is a very good Asian store in St Helens which sells all sorts of everything Asian, and dried goods, and other stuff too, I don't know the name of it, and I have forgotten where it is, but it is not in the town centre.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 11:55

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Is Bolton Market still good for Indian ingredients?

I know it was back in 1990's, but things change a lot in 20+ years.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 13:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

I now know why I forgot where that Asian Store was in St Helens, and that is because it was in Warrington

Pak - World Supermarket
111 Bewsey Rd,
Warrington
WA5 0JT

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 14:52

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Thank you ena but the trouble is we have no Indian or Asian good store in Wigan,I did try the polish one facing Iceland but no joy.I really don't know why Asda say they have no black ones..I always got them from there before.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:08

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

Pak - World Supermarket

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:21

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Where's that Tonks.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:41

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Tonks I've just found it,I'd be spending the biggest part of my day on the bus,lol

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:45

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

^^^^^^^^ back, but one!

I just thought it was funny - A PAK supermarket!

How about Manchester Superstores in Deane? They're supposed to be a good supermarket for Paks!

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:46
Last edited by tonker: 2nd Jul 2022 at 20:54:49

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Tonks,take note of my reply above.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 21:12

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

I think Sainsbury do them, under name of Beluga Lentils.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 21:37

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Thank you Ena.

Replied: 2nd Jul 2022 at 22:01

Posted by: mollie m (6472) 

There's an Asian shop at 135 Ormskirk Road now in Newtown, on the corner of Ormskirk Road and Grosvenor Street. I haven't tried it yet, but my brother called in a short while ago and said it's pretty good. It's called Wigan Halal Store. They also sell cooked items. The shop is only small, but probably worth a toot if you're in the area. I'd put the link on here if I could remember how to, but it's easy to find via Mrs Google. Oh, they're open till 7 p.m. - even on Sundays.

I don't buy Heinz tinned stuff any longer, mainly because of the inflated prices. I bought a tin of Heinz beans from Tesco Xpress not long ago. £1.80+ I think they were and, when I opened it, it was mostly slop - excuse me - sauce. I normally buy beans in Lidl - Newgate at .35 a tin, which have a thicker sauce and more beans.

Lidl are normally excellent, but a couple of months ago some of the shelves were empty - something to do with packers in their warehouses, so goods weren't being dispatched, but they're okay again, and yes, Basil, they are excellent value for money.

Oh, and I would say "Th'Edge" being a contraction of the words "The" and "Edge" if said alone; but if you say "I went t' Th'Edge, it would mean I went to The Edge." I knows me Wiggin speyk!

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 00:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 00:19

Posted by: Owd Codger (989)


Funny, I was told by an assistant at Lidl that the reason for the empty frozen cabinets was lorries not just delivering frozen goods for some reason.

And where beans are concerned, everybody buy according to their own taste and pocket for them.

And Tesco and other Supermarkets have some room to talk with the claim that they are not passing price increases by others to the customer when for example, the price of a four pint bottle of milk since the ending of Covid restrictions has increased from around £1.10 to £1.35. What Farmer is getting most of the 25p increase?

The Supermarkets know that items like milk, bread and petrol are some of the most bought items and that they can get away with big increases on essential items because they know that people will still find the money to buy those items.

Our country is renown for being "Rip Off Britain" which has gone even worse since the Covid lockdown as manufacturers, wholesalers, sellers etc have jumped on the bandwagon of recovering financial losses incurred in the pandemic!

But what do we do about it, nothing apart from making cut backs like buying cheaper beans etc in order to still enjoy running around in a car, buy an inflated price ticket for a football match, latest Smart Phone etc.

As for convenience stores, how many are selling items at even bigger inflated prices which they have bought from Supermarkets like Aldi, Lidl etc.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 08:38
Last edited by Owd Codger: 3rd Jul 2022 at 08:52:18

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Thank you mollie,I'll have a toot when I get around that area.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 10:16

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 10:30
Last edited by tonker: 3rd Jul 2022 at 10:31:34

Posted by: momac (12045) 

What are you like

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 10:56

Posted by: basil brush (18483)

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 11:34

Posted by: Stardelta (10081)

Interesting to hear Heinz`s side of the argument instead of having just Tescos rammed into my face courtesy of just about every media outlet in the country.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 11:48

Posted by: retep1949 (863)

Agree SD.I had a Eureka moment years ago when I realised anything I read,watched or heard in the media might not be true.Worse than ever these days.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 11:57

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

".... prices for the supply of processed tomatoes, which Heinz gets from Spain and Greece, are up 40 to 70 per cent. Further rises are expected when ‘new season’ tomatoes come on the market."

There must be a shortage of tomatoes?

Oh., Aye!

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 12:03

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

"shortage of people in Wigan"

I blame tonker, persuading folk that they are not in Wigan.

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 13:59

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

That is true, he should be working for the Ordnance Survey

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 14:11

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Just stumbled upon some receipts whilst clearing out.

I tend to buy tomatoes about twice a week. usually cherry toms, but I do buy others too.

This week, I have paid £0-50p for 250 g of Moroccan Cherry toms. (Asda)

Same time last year, I paid £0-49p for the same.

This time last year, I paid £0-87p for 330g of Dutch tomatoes, and today paid £0-90p for the same. (Tesco)

Price is higher, but very slightly. Much less than inflation, so cheaper in real terms!

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 16:32
Last edited by ena malcup: 3rd Jul 2022 at 20:00:55

Posted by: cheshirecat (325) 

A lot of of company's are profiteering out of the current situation. Always blame the supplier.
It will be interesting to see if prices are reduced once the economy settles down.
" Heinz are fighting to get hold of staff,’ says Mr Futter."
I bet quite a few people would like an application form. Are they available?

Replied: 3rd Jul 2022 at 18:36

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

Flora margarine was £3 in Asda now £4-60

Replied: 4th Jul 2022 at 18:49

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

I wonder if Heinz are doing a 'British Gas'?

Price charged by our supplier has doubled.

Who is your supplier?

Well, actually it's ourselves
(another bit of the parent company)

Why would they do this? Is there less tax liability if the profit is realised in Greece or Spain rather than in UK?

Just asking.

Replied: 4th Jul 2022 at 18:58

Posted by: broady (18308) 

PeterP.
Our spread ( Becel) was $4.78 and is now $7.79. On the flip side Heinz beans are on offer at the minute. For some reason alcohol in the Liquor stores is the same price as last year. Some items that shot up seem to be drifting downwards now.

Replied: 4th Jul 2022 at 19:42

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Butter thefts?

It is only the spreadable variety seeing this OTT price though, as the oil blended into it has become scarce due to Ukraine's sunflowers being unavailable.

Lurpak slightly salted (The ordinary butter) last year: £1-95 to £2-15 per 250g. This year: £2-50 to £2-60.

Sorta reminded me of when in 1960's, I went camping in the France/Spain/ Andorra border areas. We encountered trains of donkeys: laden pack animals, carrying loads of butter. It was butter smuggling, and the humans had eliminated personal risk by training donkeys to carry the cargo sans any human supervision.

Replied: 5th Jul 2022 at 14:37

Posted by: bentlegs (4854)

Heinz big chicken and veg are tackle just add salt and pepper to taste and you can make meal from it I have had it many times when in a hurry also no one can make tomato soup like Heinz

Replied: 7th Jul 2022 at 13:06

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

"no one can make tomato soup like Heinz"

Not proper tomato soup!

Replied: 7th Jul 2022 at 17:24

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

Well, they have resolved their differences, and stock returning to Tesco shelves.

The ain't telling us though, who gave what to secure agreement.

Hope some of you who buy Heinz products keep us advised on where the shop's prices go.

Replied: 9th Jul 2022 at 22:07

Posted by: mollie m (6472) 

Sorry to resurrect this, but I was asked a couple of things to which I didn’t reply.

Owd Codger:

What you said is true about the lorries not delivering to Lidl, and it wasn’t just frozen food, it was all sorts, and the reason was because they were short of packers, therefore lorries not getting loaded. This went on for a good 3/4 weeks so I emailed Lidl to ask what the problem was, and they kindly replied with the reason. Also, the beans I mentioned in my previous post are most definitely tastier than Heinz’s.

Momac:

You’re welcome. Do let us know if you manage to have a toot and what it’s like. I still haven’t been yet, although it’s only about 1½ miles from where I live. As I said in my previous post, it is only very small, but might be worth a look. It’s in a fairly good location as well with parking down the side street next to it, depending on the time of day/evening you go. For myself, I’d go at around 6 p.m. when traffic is lighter, because it’s almost on the “Saddle” road nightmare, depending on which way you’re coming from.

Ena:

I go into Tesco Express every night, and last night it was nice to see more Tesco labels on the shelves. I was chatting to one of the ladies who works there about the dispute with Heinz and, I said, if they put more Tesco products on the shelves instead of the big names, they’d sell more. It’s scandalous what Heinz charge for their tinned goods, not that I buy many of them, but just to keep handy like yourself. I bought a tin of mushroom soup at .55, but Heinz was, I think, £1.25 – more than twice the cost, but their other soups were more expensive!

As to the cost of butter, the cost of Lurpak in Tesco is a whopping £5.05 so, years ago, I decided to try Danpak from Lidl which is now £2.15. Very little difference in taste, if any, and less than half the price.

All prices have increased since the pandemic and, as has been said, companies are finding the need to recoup their losses at the cost of shoppers, and there’s little that can be done about that, so we have to shop within our means, but we don’t have to skimp on quality if we shop wisely.

Slightly off track, a couple of weeks ago my brother was taking me to Leigh Infirmary and we were chatting about this and that, and the subject emerged about the cost of petrol, and I mentioned that it was now slightly less than £8 a gallon. He let that sink in for a moment, then he said: “I remember when you could get a gallon of petrol for 2/6d!” Frikknin’.

Replied: 13th Jul 2022 at 21:50

Posted by: Owd Codger (989)

The petrol station on Whelley which before the lockdown was always charging at least 4p a litre dearer that Tesco is now charging 1p a litre less than Tesco.

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 08:16

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

If you want spreadable butter, it is worth considering Kerrygold.

It is not as soft as the tubs of mix, but is naturally softer than most other pure butters. Not having any oil blended in means it has not sky rocketed in price like the other spreadable types. Its typically found at around £2 for 250g.

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 12:08

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

"The petrol station on Whelley which before the lockdown was always charging at least 4p a litre dearer that Tesco is now charging 1p a litre less than Tesco"

I won't go to that petrol station, because in my opinion they sell short measures, which is very naughty, but I am sure their pumps have been 'fixed' to deliver less fuel, than they should do.

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 13:51

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

Fuel forecourts are allowed a 5% margin on delivery.

If 5% of £1.98 is 10p, a customer putting 10 litres in, at £20, could be being legally robbed of a £1 !

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 13:56

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

I bet those pumps never put too much fuel in.

I

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 14:20

Posted by: ena malcup (1503) 

We sold sweets when I was a kid.

Dad said scales are never 100% accurate, you must weigh as accurately as you can the quarter that the customer asks for, then add one more so that the error is over: never sell underweight!

How times have changed!

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 14:34
Last edited by ena malcup: 14th Jul 2022 at 14:35:33

Posted by: momac (12045) 

Thank you Mollie,I never seem to get to that part of Wigan,but if ever I do I'll have a look in there..it will be interesting.

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 14:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

.....

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 17:05
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 14th Jul 2022 at 17:07:37

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Weights and Measures, would call in shops unannounced, and check to see if the scales were accurate, and you had to adjust the scales, to make sure they were 'level'
Weights which were used on things like vegetable scales, mainly for weighing potatoes, for example 5lb of potatoes, would have two 2lb weights, and 1lb pound weight, and when the new crop of potatoes came through, the Jerseys, Cyprus etc, and I found some cracking cockroaches in sacks of potatoes, and I was warned to watch out for finding Scorpions in sacks of spuds from Cyprus, and you would then weigh those in 2lb and 3lb bags, and the weight of the weights would be checked, by the Weights and Measures man, and if you had reason to have the weight of your weights adjusted, because the Weights and Measures man, said that the Weights were wrong, then the person or company which adjusted the weight of the weights, would then melt their official stamp, which said who they were, they would melt their official stamp into the adjusting lead content in the weight

I was once in a shop where the Weights and Measures came in, and found that the Rathbones medium sliced bread was underweight, all the loaves were 1 gram underweight, and this was in the early 1970s, so they had already started weighing stuff in grams back then, and what a palava that was, every loaf was checked, both with and without the wrapping on, the Breadman was upset, because these two Weights and Measure men, had waited outside of the shop, for the Rathbones delivery man to show up, so they must have had a tip off, and as he carried his last tray of bread into the shop, they pounced, and he had to stop at the shop, whilst they went about their business, and when the bread was found to be underweight, they said that he could not deliver anymore bread to the other shops on his round, and he then got on the shop phone to the bakery, and a boss from Rathbones showed up in a transit van, and he had to take the bread back from the shop to the bakery, escorted by the Weights and Measures squad, along with the bread delivery van, I don't know what they did then, but the shop had no Rathbones Medium Sliced bread that day

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 17:16

Posted by: Stardelta (10081)

Pump delivery error tolerance is -0.5 to + 1.0%.


Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 17:17

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

Ena Tesco now selling Heinz soup at £1-40 a tin so who backed down
Asda selling Heinz soup at £1-39 a tin but if you buy 5 tins you can have them for a £1 per tin, If they can afford to sell it at a £1 per tin if you buy 5 tins then they should sell a tin for a £1

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 19:50

Posted by: tonker (25524) 

I knew there was a 5 in it somewhere!

Replied: 14th Jul 2022 at 20:25

Posted by: Owd Codger (989)

mollie m

Some people think that beans from companies other than Heinz are tastier while some think beans from Heinz are the more tastier.

Freedom of choice and what you are want to pay!

Replied: 15th Jul 2022 at 07:07

Posted by: fossil (7512)

@tonker^^^

Replied: 15th Jul 2022 at 08:52

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

Tonker is that a high five

Replied: 15th Jul 2022 at 11:57

 

Note: You must login to use this feature.

If you haven't registered, why not join now?. Registration is free.