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Started by: PeterP (9411)

I was looking on Albums and there are photos of the Star customers taken in 1980. Wondered when it closed

Started: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:10

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

Which Star, I only know/knew one at Roby Mill

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:30

Posted by: First Mate (738)

Wasn't there one in Bryn

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:46

Posted by: Pewfall (273) 

I recall there being a Star in Bryn a few years back, i'm pretty sure it was the Star Hotel on the left down landgate. It was suddenly demolished around year 2002 and block of flats built there - It was alright in there too.

The Star

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:50
Last edited by Pewfall: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:52:53

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

No it was Wigan Road, near junction with Nicol Road.

(Was next to what used to be Gorner's Garage)

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:52
Last edited by ena malcup: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:18:54

Posted by: Pewfall (273) 

what's the name of the place i am thinking Ena?

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:54

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

Can only think of Cranberry being replaced with flats

Red Lion ceased to be a pub, but repurposed as a normal dwelling house.

Park is still there, I believe.

Golden Ball: gone.

But I haven't lived there for more than half a century, so rely on second hand information.

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:56
Last edited by ena malcup: 21st Apr 2022 at 21:00:34

Posted by: Pewfall (273) 

Yes, that sounds right, cranberry hotel. ta and almost next door was red lion

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:57
Last edited by Pewfall: 21st Apr 2022 at 20:58:04

Posted by: First Mate (738)

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 21:03
Last edited by First Mate: 21st Apr 2022 at 21:04:20

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Peter you would know the Carhills,( they ran the Star for yonks) their lads went to our skool, Eddy Arows and it closed , I'm guessing late 1970's, I used to chuck arrows in there in 1975 so it was after that .

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 21:55

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

I bet Whupsie would know, he was slightly better at chuckin arrows than me,

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 21:57

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

My claim to fame of chuckin' arrows was,
I was playing for the Golden Ball, ( thats a pub not an award) , we were playing the T'hinge, A top team from ashton and their star player was, ( I can't remember his name) but he was a top player, I was on last against him and it was neck and neck to this game, whoever won this game won game ,set and match, It was, round the board, 1 to 20 and bull,
I set off, double 1, 3,4, was my first 3 arrows, my next 3 was, double 5, double 10, double 5, 6 arrows chucked and only the bull to win, my next chuck was, somewhere on the board but not counted next was, Bullseye, smack int Belly, The crowd roared, We was the winners and the pub wa full of joy from the Golden ball team and sorrow from the thinge,
now normal practice after such an event was, to shake hands but, the thinge player , threw his darts on the floor and said in a loud voice, " never in't memory of Mon will that mon chuck like that again," that was sour grapes from a loser but, he was right, I never did that ever again,

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 22:18

Posted by: bambam (2546)

used to like a pint in golden ball at bottom of rose hill, i think it was later called flanagans it was still going in 80s then it changed back to golden ball.

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 23:00

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Bambam i was a regular there when Billy and Molly cross ran it, It was 1981 when it was refurbed and flanigans took it over,

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 23:06

Posted by: broady (18206) 

Surely you throw for 11 onwards after double 5. It certainly was everywhere I played.

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 23:27

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Peter, just re read your opening post, so yea I'm wrong about late 70's but, it cant be far off the 1980's, I was going to Golborne the other day and as I'm turning right into Golborne road , I could not think of the name of the pub there, It came to me later, it was the Rams yed, we chucked arrows in there too, I remember if you dropped a coin in the Rams yed at the bar, it would roll out of the door because the whole pub was leaning towards Ashton,

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 23:33

Posted by: Domin0 (328)

I joined Garswood Hall Angling club in 1961, the Star was the headquarters then, and for a few years after.

Replied: 21st Apr 2022 at 23:37

Posted by: whups (8532) 

it was called the angel tomplum & it may have been billy hoof from the hinge . yep knew nearly all in the star & my guess is around mid 80s.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 00:11

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

Tomplum Yvonne's cousin Lynne is married to Bernard Cahill. Next time I see them I will have to ask Bernard when it closed. It was my watering hole from 1975 till Closure and I played for their Pool team. During this time I also became a member of Garswood Hall BCC and I am still a member today.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 05:29

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Whupie, It was defo the thinge ( the Hingemakers) in heath Road, They were the top team in our league on the day,
Broady you're right I meant to say double 4 , 9 double ten,

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 08:22

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

Does Walter, still have th'Hinge

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 08:55

Posted by: Joe Maplin (482) 

Dont think Walt Corless is with us anymore Tommy

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 10:22
Last edited by Joe Maplin: 22nd Apr 2022 at 10:23:39

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

he died last year, top bloke Walt,,

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 11:09

Posted by: whups (8532) 

yes he did &a good man too .

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 11:32

Posted by: peter israel (1234) 

Walt is Wayne's father ??

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 11:42
Last edited by peter israel: 22nd Apr 2022 at 11:42:56

Posted by: Joe Maplin (482) 

Walt retired a few years back,but never really left .
Most pubs had an ever present stalwart back in the day.
The person who was part of the fixtures and fittings.
inventory-25 tables,50 stools,a pool table/dart board and a Walt

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 12:38

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

Sorry to hear about Walter

Where was the Star, I can't remember it

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 13:49

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

where Arnold clark is now, junction of wigan road and mere Road,

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:08

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

Thank you Tom, it must have been demolished a long time ago, because going back I can only ever remember there being Gorners on that corner, the Mercedes dealer.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:16

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

mere Road?

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:17

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

Didn't the Star always smell as if something was rotting in there?

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:27

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

I found it on an old map, and it was actually on the main road, and not on the corner, of Wigan Road and Nicol Road, and to build Gorner's, they demolished the Star and some terraced houses

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 14:36

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

Utter Rubbish
Gorner's and the Star stood next to each other for years

Yes, it was NOT on the corner, but as I said at top of thread, close to the junction.

ie it was next door but one, with Gorner's being in between

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:07

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

yea I get mixed up at times, I post mostly from what i remember and sometimes things get muddled, My brain was thinking Nicol Mere, because thats where i lived 20 years ago and i knew it was one of those words,

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:09

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Ena is correct, Gorners have been there as long as I remember

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:11

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

I am with you there, tom.

All my life, I have known Nicol Road as Nicol Lane

I had put 'Nicol Lane' at first in the post. Have gone back to edit, so as it reads 'Road' to minimise misunderstanding.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:13

Posted by: broady (18206) 

I think the Hingemakers was the pub where the landlord bought half price pies at closing time from a shop in Ashton and put them on the bar, free of charge, for men calling in for a pint after work. Alas the council do gooders stepped in and stopped the practice because he hadn’t got the required hygiene certificates etc.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:29

Posted by: Joe Maplin (482) 

Ena not quite rubbish . Gorners and the Star indeed lived side by side,however,they did
demolish the Star and adj terraced houses to extend when they became
merc dealers

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:30
Last edited by Joe Maplin: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:32:54

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

I wonder if they were 'Pilling's Pies'?
They had a good reputation.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:33

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

Joe Maplin,

Precisely, The present Arnold Clark's site covers both the original site of Gorner's, and the original site of the Star, but they did not demolish the Star to build Gorner's.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:41

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

Fank yoo, Ena

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:50

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

tts
Apologies for being confrontational.

I did not take the time to compose a more measured reply.

Must do better.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 15:58

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

When I was 15, and still at school, along with my peers, we discovered that we were old enough to pass as adults, and get served in t pub.

Our first pub was The Angel, on Warrington Road in Ashton.

The then landlady was called Amy. (Don't recall surname)

A companion gave away that I was still at school, but Amy, bless her heart, still deigned to serve me.

By the time that I got to 18, I had given up drinking.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 16:17

Posted by: whups (8532) 

jimmy & vi cunliffe had the angel for a while until they got the swan in ince .

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:15
Last edited by whups: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:16:09

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

I recall a Jimmy Cunliffe from Rose Hill, though he was still a child when I left the district. Would it be the same person? He would be getting on towards 70 by now?

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:20

Posted by: whups (8532) 

i think he passed away years ago .

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:28

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1861)

Jimmy cunliffe had westhoughton golf club up to covid shame if he's passed away

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:38

Posted by: broady (18206) 

I worked with a Jimmy Cunliffe at the glassworks who became a Landlord ( The Swan at Hindley I think) However I think he would be nearer to 80 now.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 17:56

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

There was an older Jimmy Cunliffe, who worked on Bryn Station in 1960's. He also used to cut hair.

I think he hailed from somewhere around Princess Road/Heath Road, Ashton.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 18:11

Posted by: broady (18206) 

On reflection the Jimmy I knew could have driven a machine at Rainfords. So long ago I get mixed up.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 18:22

Posted by: dougie (4820) 

I remember Gorner's when it was just a big shed with just one petrol pump in 1950s, Bryn road was always call Long lane before they changed it
This pub was sold and shipped to America and rebuilt over there
Star Hotel

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 19:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

What about Billy Cunliffe from Bryn

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 19:22

Posted by: ena malcup (1188) 

He is older brother of the Jimmy from Rose Hill.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 19:51

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 


What about Billy Cunliffe from Bryn

Tommy doo yoo mean the billy Cunliffe that worked at Ingersoll Rand ?

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 20:52

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

I thought he was a pitmon.

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 22:24

Posted by: whups (8532) 

your both right . he,s not well at the mo i believe .

Replied: 22nd Apr 2022 at 23:50

Posted by: tomplum (9190) 

Thats right he was a pitmon till the pits shut, then he was at Ingersoll till they shut, I don't know what he did after, I don't know why but, he seemed to like getting knocked down a lot, I'm sorry he is unwell, I never knew him all that well, just enough to say , hello and general banter,

Replied: 23rd Apr 2022 at 12:06

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (9751)

It is a long time since I met Billy and his family, and I am sorry to hear that he is unwell.

Replied: 23rd Apr 2022 at 13:35

Posted by: PeterP (9411)

Billy Cunliffe Has been abroad to have a Knee replacement done. Led to believe he was in agony with the knee could not get it done on the NHS waiting list too long He managed to get to the Bowling Club last Sat for a pint with his mates

Replied: 23rd Apr 2022 at 15:01

Posted by: brynkiwi (717) 

I lived at 253 Wigan Road our door just about lined up with the Star front door on the opposite side of the road. Handy for a pint

Replied: 24th Apr 2022 at 22:11

Posted by: First Mate (738)



Great brynkiwi. Good memories

Replied: 24th Apr 2022 at 22:17

Posted by: whups (8532) 

i wonder why the waiting list,s to long ? .

Replied: 24th Apr 2022 at 23:44

Posted by: peter israel (1234) 

whups
i wonder why the waiting list,s to long
ME TO
Yesterday i was speaking to a friend over here in Israel and she also has to go for a Knee surgery she has been told 6 weeks!! And she could have it faster but she wanted a certain hospital......
we have also been through Covid and with high numbers in hospital

SO if they are saying the waiting list are long in the UK because of Covid
some one is telling porkies
PS... we also have a very high immigration last year there was 27000

Replied: 25th Apr 2022 at 07:05
Last edited by peter israel: 25th Apr 2022 at 07:20:58

 

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