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Started by: basil brush (19583)

Started: 6th May 2021 at 11:24

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

basil brush,
Just read that newspaper article and what a load of codswallop Briar Homes have come out with!
“help reinstate a greater sense of enclosure to this part of Cross Street”
'ENCLOSURE!': Put a prison wall around Cross Street and it will do the same!
“The development will provide an effective screen to many of the unintentionally exposed rear elevations and it will mask much of the negative frontage to the Standish Centre."
Who are they trying to kid!
If they are so concerned about '...the negative frontage', then why don't they spend some money on the existing buildings and provide the area with '...a positive frontage'.
But! Nothing was done to stop anyone 'sticking' two relatively modern and bland looking supermarkets in the middle of Standish, which definitely have 'negative frontage' - certainly have never blended in, unobtrusively, to the architectural environment nor the period of many buildings of that area.
I know Cross Street very well and there are very few parking places and the street is narrow - also, there are double yellow lines on both sides of that street in some parts. Furthermore, Standish Library is in that street with limited parking space and there are a number of shops down the street with parking space in front for about six cars (for shop owners' cars, delivery vehicles and customers' cars etc).
Next, if you are heading to the motorway, Shevington, Wrightington, Coppull or through those places, you probably need to go through Standish centre traffic lights - which is a nightmare, especially in the 'rush hours' - unless you take another route, such as going all the way down to the Cherry Gardens, then heading down through Beechhill, then going through Standish Lower Ground and into Shevington.
Additionally, there are many terraced houses in Church Street with very limited parking space and some houses in Market Place with limited parking space; no large available land to build a car park. When these terraced houses were built, there was no consideration regarding any resident owning a car or any other type of vehicle.
St. Wilfrid's Church is in Market Place and opposite one end of Church Street, so when there are weddings or funerals taking place, then it is pure chaos to try and find a parking place.
So, I think, Briar Homes need to purchase the library, demolish it, turn the land into a helicopter pad and provide a permanent helicopter service for all residents.
By the way, it would be interesting to know who Richard Calvert is! (?)

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:10

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15499)

Basil

I can't read that link Basil, it's blocked !!!!

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:31

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Worked alright for me, tommy.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15499)

Basil

Don't be posting broken links on here, yoo flea bitten excuse for a fox

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:41

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

It worked perfectly well for me.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:42

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

thanks ian

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:43

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

I viewed the newspaper article via your 'link' basil and typed my response after reading the article.
But, for those people who cannot open the link, this could be a number of reasons regarding your laptop, mobile phone, security protection etc.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:52

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

Or simply the link doesn't like tommy

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:55

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

Well! My friends will tell you that I'm a nice guy.
At least, sometimes!

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:01

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

I know you are, there's very few of us about

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:02

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

Are we a dying breed?

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15499)

ianp

Becoming friends with Basil/Jarvo is sure going to make you popular on here

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:16

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

By the way, here is something for Tonker to argue about:
“The Standish Village Conservation Area, and Cross Street in particular, have been studied in detail. Other local housing developments have been visited and considered as case studies.”
Didn't he adamantly argue that Standish is a TOWN and not a VILLAGE?

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:18

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

Tommy Two Stroke,
I am sure that I supported you in some of the things you had typed and I haven't ever been rude or objectionable.
Have I?

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:22
Last edited by ianp.: 6th May 2021 at 14:22:25

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

It comes natural to Tommy to have a go at someone.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15499)

ianp

No you have never been rude to me

Unlike that pathetic excuse of a fox

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:38

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

But! Please understand that I am trying to be totally neutral here, if you do lean towards provocation, would you not expect him to 'bite' back?
To be honest, I would bite back.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:45

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15499)

ianp

On about the Standish Village thing, I cannot comment on Tonkers behalf, but in my opinion just because someone who works for Wigan Council decides to call Standish a village, that doesn't make it a village.

Historically

Standish was given township status in the Middle Ages, and it merged with Langtree to become Standish-with-Langtree Urban District of Lancashire, which it was until 1974 when Wigan Metro was created.

That means it had and has the same status as Hindley and Ashton in Makerfield, so I would tend to agree that Standish is probably a town, but I am not 100% sure

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 14:54

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

To be totally honest TTT, I am not sure either.
In many official documents, it states village. But, I have seen it stated as a town. And! As I stated before, I referred to Standish as a town, simply because it seemed to cause less complications.
I have read, many times, Standish is a 'township'. But, this is still unclear as 'township' is used to describe a particular place as a territory of a town and a subdivision of a county.
A village is a rural habitation which is between the size of a hamlet and a town.
To be honest, it is difficult to, as to say, put your finger on.
But, I know one thing which is sure! There is absolutely no chance of trying to persuade some people about other possibilities - and, please believe me, I am definitely not applying this to you.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 15:08

Posted by: ianp. (932) 

Anyway, let us just drop this discussion and return to the original topic of this post by bb and that is: Standish development.
I certainly find that: 'MORE HOUSES TO BE BUILT IN STANDISH', far more concerning.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 15:13

 

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