Help with energy bills, means tested benefits.

Started by: gaffer (7172) 

From the Times

More than eight million households on means-tested benefits will receive lump-sum payments worth up to £600 to help with the cost of living, Rishi Sunak is to announce.

The Times has been told that the chancellor will spend more than £6 billion on support for the poorest households to help them with soaring energy bills. The payments, which are likely to be made in two instalments, will go to everyone on means-tested benefits, including universal credit, pensions credit, housing benefit, jobseekers’ allowance and income support.

It will come on top of a £400 discount on energy bills for every household in Britain.

The combination of measures is designed to be “temporary and targeted” for what ministers see as a short-term economic crisis. They are determined not to significantly increase the size of the state.

The chancellor will scrap plans for a “rebate and clawback scheme” that would have given people a £200 discount on their energy bills from October. Energy companies would have recouped the money through higher bills over the next five years, which led to criticism that the measure was effectively a loan.

Started: 26th May 2022 at 11:56

Posted by: whups (8825) 

why dont they means test sunak & his wife .

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 12:05

Posted by: fossil (7537)

Who is in charge of this country?
The press! You would have thought that parliament would have been the first to know of any measures but it only goes to show who owns this country namely the press barons.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 12:14

Posted by: whups (8825) 

they never "means test" the rich who send their money out of the country . freebies for all who have got money but us have to endure looking into your bank account .

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 12:22

Posted by: ena malcup (1547) 

It had been leaked, and mentioned more than once on TV that this would be put out today in order to move the news on from Boris's behaviour in respect of breach of lockdown constraints.

It was put to Boris yesterday. Naturally, he denied it, so I guess we interpret that as affirmation.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 12:26

Posted by: whups (8825) 

why would anyone want this lying self serving bunch of clowns to run any country least of all OURS .

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 12:29

Posted by: frecky (431)

I presume then whups that you'll refuse any kind of Govt payout because of your principles.....

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 13:59

Posted by: upthetims (6586)

Tories spent last 12 years impoverishing millions of people,and not falling for Sunaks bribe to deflect from the fact that his lying gaffer will not resign,which just shows how much contempt this Bullingdon bully boy has for the British people.A man with no principals and certainly no honour,shower of bastards laughing at us

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 14:09

Posted by: whups (8825) 

why do you really think were going to get anything with this lot frecky . they are already devising ways not to give us owt . think of this ,why are disabled people only getting £ 150 when others are getting £ 650 ? . peter is paying paul here & i guarentee that some will get nowt .

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 15:14

Posted by: First Mate (829)

Whups Disabled people are getting another £650 making a total £800.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 15:16

Posted by: whups (8825) 

that was,nt mentioned in the mini budget . where has that come from ? .

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 15:40

Posted by: First Mate (829)

Rishi Sunak also announces a one-off disability cost of living payment of £150.

"Many disabled people will also receive the payment of £650 I've already announced, taking their total cost-of-living payments to £800," the chancellor says.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 15:45
Last edited by First Mate: 26th May 2022 at 15:46:00

Posted by: Owd Codger (1009)


The country is run by the Carlton Club, members of which are leading Tories and Freemasons!

The Broadsheet Newspapers, the BBC and even members of the Royal Family are part of the Establishment!

They are the ones who know everything before the Politicians in Parliament.

Replied: 26th May 2022 at 16:36
Last edited by Owd Codger: 26th May 2022 at 16:43:03

Posted by: whups (8825) 

i,ll believe it when i see it 1st mate . all this just to take the heat off johnson,s partygate .

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 11:48

Posted by: frecky (431)

The world is falling apart, people being killed, climate change etc and all as some folk can harp on about is bloody partygate.....and some politicians being millionaires....for crying out loud....gerra grip on reality.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 14:33

Posted by: lectriclegs (4929)

Don't forget not being able to get any barley as well.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 14:37

Posted by: whups (8825) 

frecky never mind about the rest of the world just concern yourself about your own backyard & wots goin on in it .

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 17:18

Posted by: Platty (1498)


Replied: 27th May 2022 at 17:30

Posted by: broady (18323) 

Our petrol is at an all time high and the cost of most goods is increasing significantly. We have no Brexit, no Partygate, we don’t get oil or gas from Russia, so what is causing our inflation? We do have two faced politicians however. I think it is a world wide problem.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 17:41

Posted by: Platty (1498)

broady: just follow Keith Schwab or the WEF. You will own nothing and be happy. This is a world order for marshalling up the world economies. That's why the illegal immigration into the UK and EU is not being addressed.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 18:06

Posted by: riocaroni (342)

Never mind partygate how con you make a proper stew bout barley? Favers we've forgeten how be Wiginers.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 19:40

Posted by: broady (18323) 

Al fotch thi sum o’er next time I cross Fatlantic.

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 20:19

Posted by: riocaroni (342)

Many thanks Bill????

Replied: 27th May 2022 at 23:07

Posted by: Owd Codger (1009)

Its called greed by those at the top in business, but not many appear to be protesting about it by going out on the streets!

Apathy being the key word for people today.

Replied: 28th May 2022 at 07:52

Posted by: jathbee (11368)

The last time I saw people out on the streets in any kind of numbers was when Thatcher tried to introduce the poll tax. Apathy is indeed the key word.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 09:23

Posted by: Owd Codger (1009)


Now to busy with their new big houses, second homes, caravans, boats, foreign holidays, expensive cars, latest technology etc,etc.

Protesting on the streets about being ripped of with food, fuel and energy prices being the least of many peoples priorities today.

Unless, of course, there is a major recession or massive inflation to motivate the public into action!

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 09:40

Posted by: whups (8825) 

if this was in france paris would be on fire . no guts here today .

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 12:30

Posted by: lectriclegs (4929)

"if this was in france paris would be on fire "

And what would that achieve?

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 12:42

Posted by: whups (8825) 

everything .

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 13:00

Posted by: lectriclegs (4929)

The above statement has confirmed my long held belief, that you are indeed an idiot.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 13:08

Posted by: jathbee (11368)

The French are more likely to make their objections known by actions rather than words. As I'm sure you will know the French have a history of revolution.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 13:20

Posted by: whups (8825) 

your no diffrent leccy as you always argue the opposite point . like iv,e said the french wont stand for it & get things done unlike people like you who wont stand up to owt , no guts.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 15:39

Posted by: tonker (25568) 

40% reduction in energy bills ? But not for us, laaaaike!
Spain have also knocked 20c a litre off fuel, too.

They've "broke ranks with the EU", eh? So did we, so where's our reductions?

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 18:01

Posted by: ena malcup (1547) 

Last time I was in Spain, it was still under General Franco's thumb.

It does seem to have come a long way in the ensuing decades.

Replied: 29th May 2022 at 18:32

Posted by: Owd Codger (1009)

ena malcup

Like the former poverty ridden East European Communists States, Spain was brought up to better standard of living by the big four EU states of France, Germany, Italy and the United Kingdom.

Plus of course, the holiday industry where again, we are one of the biggest contributors to their economy!

As a result, Spanish companies like Santander now own British companies.

We paid and they prospered!

And people questioned our coming out of the EU!

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 07:49
Last edited by Owd Codger: 30th May 2022 at 07:50:31

Posted by: whups (8825) 

if thatcher had done wot they did in the EU we would,nt be in this situation today . but instead of taking a 51% like germany did & have the energy companies come "cap in hand" to the government to put any rise up we now have vitrually all our energy companies foriegn owned & put up prices at their leisure & send their profits back to their respective countries who wont let them put any rise up above the rate of inflation ? .that,s the question here .

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 11:40

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10212)

Poppycock !!!!

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 11:48

Posted by: whups (8825) 

i think you shud educate yourself 1stroke & look it up instead of making yourself a bigger fool than you already are .

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 12:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10212)


They should never have privatised the utilities in the first place.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 13:37

Posted by: gaffer (7172) 


Poppycock was appropriate. Whups must have a random duff fact generator.
The two giants of Germany power generation are both owned by private and institutional shareholders. In the case of E ON the majority of it’s shares are owned by foreign investors.

Our most recent survey at year-end 2021 shows that we have roughly 61 percent institutional investors, roughly 21 percent retail investors, about 18 percent other investors. Investors in Germany hold about 42 percent of our stock, those outside Germany about 58 percent.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 14:19
Last edited by gaffer: 30th May 2022 at 14:59:49

Posted by: whups (8825) 

wots poppycock about it gaffer ? . wot makes you right & everyone else wrong ? .it doesnt matter how many investors e-on has they are still taking our money hand over fist out of the country arnt they . the poppycock as you put it is your reply which doesnt help with our bills 1 iota . you shud try & put some feeling in your replies instead of the sterile replies you keep putting on .

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:18
Last edited by whups: 30th May 2022 at 15:22:03

Posted by: broady (18323) 

The facts that are freely obtainable on the internet. You spout the same old rhetoric almost every day. You gripe about everything. If it rains it is Margaret Thatchers fault.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:22

Posted by: Platty (1498)

Broady: Daisy's xenophobic, he wants Britain to be insular, he hates any money going overseas, ergo he hates Tonks, you, Nanaj, me and anyone else who takes and spends money outside these shores.

Probably hates Billinge as well because he takes his money up to Bolton-le-Sands and that sounds French.

I think being down t'pit makes you that way, you lose sight of the big blue yonder.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:31

Posted by: whups (8825) 

i have family in billinge platty by the surname of roper .

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:33

Posted by: whups (8825) 

here you are gaffer just for you . this from a website just like yours . "The state has a 51% share in final power bills, mainly to support renewables, which insulates the final price somewhat from fluctuations in the wholesale market".

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:35

Posted by: Platty (1498)

Daisy: I was referring to Billinge Biker - is that who you mean, are you and BB related?

Well, well, well.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 15:42

Posted by: whups (8825) 

billinge biker isnt related to me . try and catch up wuffta.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 16:36

Posted by: tonker (25568) 

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 16:40

Posted by: Platty (1498)

Tonks: They immediately came to my mind and probably look like Daisy and his family!

Daisy: Catch up to what? Were you speaking at random? "i have family in billinge platty by the surname of roper ."

Where did I mention Billinge in my roam aeround the world and WW people?

I mentioned Billinge (short for Billinge Biker) who goes up to Bolton-le-Sands, now there's a clue. The whole of Billinge, as far as I know unless there is some tradition, doesn't go up to Bolton-le-Sands from time to time.

Replied: 30th May 2022 at 16:54

Posted by: whups (8825) 

try & explain your coments in more detail next time .

Replied: 31st May 2022 at 00:03


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