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Started by: ena malcup (345)

Does it get much harder to pitch notes when you get older?

Only ask, cause currently watching 'The Who' on 'Sky Arts' (Freeview 11)

Doing a lot of their older stuff, which I really like, but their timing and pitch is awful!

I also recall when Debbie Harry did her come back. I thought she was just being lazy, and not bothering making the effort to pitch. Perhaps saving herself the bother if she knew she could not do it.

Maybe also explains why I was encouraged to leave the local Community Choir!

Started: 5th Dec 2021 at 18:45

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1055) 

Ena.... You should hear my karaoke specials.... Chantilly lace by the big bopper and Monster mash by Bobby Boris Pickett.... Bring the house down I do

Replied: 5th Dec 2021 at 18:57

Posted by: berylh (2114)

I find the more I sing the better the voice and certainly a warm up is essential. I was worried that not having sung properly I would not be able to reach the higher notes so joined my singing group with a few anxieties. My main difficutlies now are learning the latin words for when we do plainsong and some Taize. So far the voice is holding up.

Replied: 5th Dec 2021 at 19:57

Posted by: kathpressey (5391) 

Everything on the body wears out or gets weaker with age so it stands to reason that vocal cords do too. Mind you Tom Jones can still sing.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 09:03

Posted by: TerryW (6964)

Paul McCartney, Elton John and Rod the Mod have all lost it, they sound bloody awful now.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 09:12

Posted by: frecky (275)

Yep, it gets harder once you've turned 60.....

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 11:06

Posted by: linma (2714)

I’m glad it’s not just me ena. A while ago Elton John made an advert for Snickers and his voice was terrible. The advert didn’t air for very long!

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 11:33

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1055) 

Frecky I'm 63 and can still yodel on the karaoke.... Might be rubbish but it's a laugh.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 12:51

Posted by: sonlyme (3031)

I like to think that i can still pitch a note at 73.Probably the ones you mention think the same.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 13:14

Posted by: tomplum (8237) 

Its people like myself who, have never quite got the art of singing that, Is unaffected by lack of pitch keeping,

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 13:43

Posted by: sonlyme (3031)

You could have been a cricket groundsman Tom.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 14:13

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8629)

Paul McCartney, lost his singing voice years ago, Rod Stewart never had a singing voice, I haven't heard Elton John lately, Mick Jagger seemed to keep his voice, but not heard him for a while now.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 14:46

Posted by: tomplum (8237) 

Took me a min or 2 to get that Sonlyyou,
groundsman, pitch keeping

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 15:34

Posted by: ena malcup (345)

I have one of these

As long as you can read music, it is great at showing you actually are singing the note indicated on the stave.

Of course, most singers are not singing by sight-reading a score in front of them whilst they are performing. That is where its limitations come about.

As a practice aid for pitch accuracy, it is amazingly good.

However, you have to sustain the note for around one and a half seconds. It then takes a second or two to compute its output. So when you sing a sequence of notes, ie a song, it cannot assure you that you are maintaining the accuracy you may have achieved with single note practice.

It is very accurate though. So much so, that many musicians use it to tune their string instruments, in preference to the dedicated tuners made for such purposes.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 21:30

Posted by: tomplum (8237) 

That's basically a tuner, I have had many, invaluable tuning a guitar or stringed instrument, The best of them clip to the guitar head and tune from the resonation of the guitar which, dosn't pick up the sounds in the room/hall/background, most have a button to switch from ' instrument to background' so it can pick up notes in the room, Very handy if you want to know the key of a song on the radio,

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 21:57

Posted by: ena malcup (345)

Yes, tom. Its a tuner for the human voice.

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 22:08

Posted by: tomplum (8237) 

Singing needs training, If you can hear the difference in pitch then, you are not, tone deaf and, if you are not tone deaf, you can learn to sing properly, Its all about breathing and forcing air from the stomach to the vocal chords, Obviously, I've never learned it because, I've been busy earning a living and keeping my family,,
Go with what you have, A blackbirds song is happy and very nice but a crow song is awful, neither are trained singers and they don't sing to entertain us

you either got it or you aint,

Replied: 6th Dec 2021 at 22:17

Posted by: frecky (275)

Pitching the note is relatively easy, it's difficult, sometimes impossible, to sing in the same key as I could in my teens and twenties....Then the key has to be dropped, meaning if you play an instrument you have to relearn the different chords.

Replied: 7th Dec 2021 at 11:13

Posted by: madamehmurray (6246) 

I have sang all my life. Sunday school programs. Church christmas programs contatas. Plus I did a year in chorus. You voice will change unless you keep working on it . I used to be a Sparano most of it and not sure if I can go that high anymore. I would say it changes

Replied: 7th Dec 2021 at 18:55

 

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