Wot, no lobbies?

Started by: jo anne (33694) 

From the Museum of Wigan Life - Link

Started: 1st Aug 2015 at 12:16
Last edited by jo anne: 20th Feb 2017 at 17:54:51

Posted by: jo anne (33694) 

It's the 5th annual Global Scouse Day on Tuesday 28th February (Link

Facebook / @GlobalScouseDay

'What is Scouse? Well it’s a big thing in Liverpool, considering it’s where Liverpudlians get their nickname ‘Scousers.’ It’s a local delicacy. The name scouse comes from ‘lobscouse’, a stew commonly eaten by sailors and with Liverpool’s maritime links, it became a popular dish in the city!'

Vegetarian Version - Blind Scouse

Replied: 20th Feb 2017 at 17:57

Posted by: ayrefield (4465)

jo anne, that has reminded me of the time whilst doing some work on Scotland Road in the early 1970s, some colleagues and I called into a local chippy and noticed on the menu board between the other pies i.e. steak or meat a 'Scouse Pie', we'd never heard of it back then and for some reason it sounded so funny - we just couldn't stop laughing.

In Wigan it was known better as lobbies, hotpot or meat and potato pie.

Replied: 21st Feb 2017 at 14:24

Posted by: kathpressey (5326) 

I've never heard of a hammock. Lobbies doesn't have a crust.

Replied: 22nd Feb 2017 at 09:34

Posted by: i-spy (15034) 

I'll never manage 12 dumplings

Replied: 22nd Feb 2017 at 17:03

Posted by: jo anne (33694) 

Of course not on Global Scouse Day, I-Spy, you have to leave room for your pancakes!

Scouse in pastry is controversial, Ayrefield, but it sounds good to me in any case.

I hadn't heard of jannock either, KathP, & I only know of milk pobs through WW.

Replied: 22nd Feb 2017 at 20:58

Posted by: ayrefield (4465)

There was a Jannock shop on Standishgate.

Jannock Shop

Not just wiganers who like things wrapped in a crust either, scousers like their scouse with a crust, though these don't look at all appetising and I'd say that crust was short rather than puff pastry.

Scouse Pies

Replied: 23rd Feb 2017 at 11:03

Posted by: jo anne (33694) 

Memories of Old Wigan - Past Forward, Issue No. 36

In 1889 Mrs Margaret Shaw gave a description of the Park Lane, Bryn area as she knew it 66 years before (i.e. in 1823).

The food was very plain, potatoes, buttermilk and a small piece of bacon for dinner; buttermilk porridge for breakfast and a 'jannock' (oatmeal bread) was provided as a treat and enjoyed as if it were a plum cake.

Replied: 23rd Feb 2017 at 13:25

Posted by: jo anne (33694) 

From the Memoir of Edward Smith (printed in 1888) - Link:

Mr. Alderman Edward Smith was born in Back St, Wigan, now known as Princess St, in 1808 ...
These were indeed hard times for working people. Money was scarce, the necessaries of life dear ... The writer well recollects the Alderman telling him some years ago that he remembered purchasing, in 1816, at the shop of the late Mr. Wm. Gidlow, sodden wheaten bread at sixpence per lb., and jannock at 4d. per lb.

Replied: 23rd Feb 2017 at 13:37

Posted by: jo anne (33694) 

1801 - Link (p.106):

In South Lancashire, as in other parts of the country, the shortage of foodstuffs was in part artificially maintained and prices were kept higher than the situation justified ... Potatoes were deliberately shipped abroad, presumably with the intention of heightening local demand for wheat flour, which was not normally consumed by the labouring classes on Lancashire, the staple bread being 'jannock' made from oatmeal, failing which potatoes were used.

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