Whups

When you were darting do you remember Alan Holt (Holty) a fairly good darter who threw for the Vic at Hindley Green in their hey days?

not off the top of my head peter but the hindley lads i knew were edgar horrocks , tommy marshal , dicky walls , harry (mouth) walsh ,bobby collins , jimmy robinson & frank metcalfe .

and peter we played the vic in the final of the wigan observer comp at tiffanys . it,s in hindley green isnt it ? .

Whups, smarty, pat brown and peter fishwick did a season at vic, and it is in hindley green,
Landlord imported the players to have a good team,

A few years ago, many pub landlords used to recruit non pub regulars not only for darts, but also for their pub football and angling teams with some teams even playing under the name of the landlord rather than the name of the pub.

tiger when we played them in the observer final at tiffanys we were 3-2 up & i played pey fishwich & beat him to win it 4-2 for the simms road . they had an imported team then with smarty , peter fishwick , john hammond,eric parkinson,alan waterworth. norman hurst ETC . but it did them no good. there pics in album on the sports gallery under the wigan observer darts competition of the team tiger

Yea that's right TC, Don Thompson poached all the best players for the Vic and won a lot of money on big bets on their players The reason I asked whups about Holty is because he collapsed and died in the road a few weeks ago and his funeral is next week.

Good days whups, wish we were back now, peter fishwick and brian bispham beat me and my mate in a semi final in bolton, 1-1, and my mate had 3 darts at double win 2--1, alas he missed and peter got up in 3 darts,
Them days it was rare miss a double in 3 darts .

Peter, sorry about that, i did not know him but if he played with those guys he must have been a sready player,

i cant bring him to mind either tiger . but sad on his passing tho .

tiger are you sure it was peter fishwick because brian bispham used to play with ste cusick & fishwick played with gary melling ? .

Defo whups, i was good friends with brian and played doubles in engineers with him, i also played at pear tree with him and peter in rosebowl. I knew pat brown very well and his mate derek pennington,
It was a lancashire pairs k/0 and we all got to bolton for last 8,

Went through Ince on Saturday Engineers gone now not a brick left I'm sure it was there 3 weeks ago.

tiger i played for the pear tree when they won the rosebowl . i did a 12 hour darts marathon with pat & derek at a club that i cant now remember . it could have been lower ince labour club & i played with ste cusick & gary melling was there too . it was a charity sponsership for children who had terminal cancer & it took them on a holiday before they passed . brian did play a lot with ste & i think they worked at gullicks together but dont quote me on that . good days.

any more info guys .

I see smarty often and go market tavern in st helens with him, also frank burke in berkley wigan,
Whups, do you remember kevin kenny from liverpool, he was a good player and got in england team.

Peter, they started building on the engineers site last week, dont know what it will end up

HMO is what my mate told me TC I don't know otherwise

yes i do tiger & good friends with him .