Scumbag Trafford fans ruining football

Started by: laughing gravy (7336)

Since the 70s......

Started: 2nd May 2021 at 16:48

Posted by: Don GB (215)

A total embarrassment.

Worldwide viewers seeing these disgraceful scenes.

A very sad day for football.

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 18:14

Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

All because if they lost the mighty blues would rack up another title..

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 18:19

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Apparently trafford will be given penalties for today's change there then.

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 18:20

Posted by: frecky (208)

Would it be classed as a pitch invasion or a security breakdown.....As pitch invasions were banned in '91 with the fans, if caught, could be fined or jailed and sanctions taken against the club......It would be a pity if Utd was penalised because of the actions of a tiny minority...

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 18:45

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Throw the book at them.

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 19:05

Posted by: broady (16903) 

There are enough photo's on the Internet to identify a large %age of them so Plod should be knocking on their doors.

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 19:23

Posted by: Diston (226)

Looks like someone opened the gates there where that many running in, Also sky sports wont be happy this game must be the biggest pay per view earner of them all. Contracts have been broken sky will be looking for major compensation.

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 20:17

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7188)

Gone .........

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 22:22
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Posted by: whups (5999) 

wots it to you 1srtoke you dont know the shape of the ball . i see laughing boy has crawled from under his stone & no mention of thursday night,s magnificent performance by the mighty reds & since the 70s liverpool were still singing "munich"until they felt wot it was like after their own tragedy . .

Replied: 2nd May 2021 at 23:55
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Posted by: whups (5999) 

says a man who said on another blog he wasnt involved with his mate laughing boy , wot a liar you turned out to be . as for penelties you lot at city shud know about them as you had the king of divers FRANNY LEE.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 01:22

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

I know we don't see eye to eye Tom when it comes to your beloved royal family and can only assume it must in someway be connected to that, so I will overlook it on this occasion.
But in future you really should be more measured before making such an outrageous scurrilous and libelous post.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 09:11

Posted by: WN1 Standisher (194)

The point they were trying to make will be lost in all the adverse publicity generated by their ill thought out actions. It was an opportunity missed. I wonder what the players sat on the team coaches thought about what was happening ?

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 10:52

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7188)

I have removed those comments

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 11:01

Posted by: whups (5999) 

avram glazer is selling a fraction of his shares which will net him $100+ with NOTHING going to the club . is it any wonder the fans reacted the way they did ? .

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 11:09

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Looking at this logically, I suspect that many of those involved were like many of the Liverpool fans (as it was claimed) who attacked the City coach. That is, local ne're do wells who have little or nothing to do with the club but saw an opportunity to get bevvied up with their mates and cause mayhem.

This can be seen by the relatively low percentage of green and yellow scarves (as opposed to gold) worn by the mob.

Still disgraceful scenes though and viewers around the world will simply assume that all the perpetrators will be trafford fans. As a result their reputation will be tarnished.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 11:50
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Posted by: whups (5999) 

in the papers today ALL the blame goes to the glazers for causing this backlash in the 1st place . not many are blaming the fans exept the cynics ? . i cant definitely say that there will be NO tarnish on the club for this ,after all wot more could the club do ? . i was in the anfield rd end at liverpool in the 70s when liverpool fans came from the kop & threw darts into the crowd & 1 just missed me but landed in a guys head . was liverpool punished for that disgraceful episode ? , no they wernt , did it tarnish the club ? , no it did,nt .

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 12:02
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Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

Tommy there was no danger of chatty and the 3 other bitters being in the pitch yesterday none of um know where the ground is! Bwahahahaha

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 14:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7188)

MUST - the Manchester United Supporters Trust has today published the following open letter to Joel Glazer

"An Open Letter to Joel Glazer: the morning after the night before, and a way forward for all of us - Monday 3rd May
Dear Joel,
The Fans Forum wrote to you and your senior management team on Friday. We don’t know if you saw it, but after the events of yesterday we trust your attention is now fully focussed on the question of what happens next at Manchester United.
First things first, let’s be very clear that no-one wants what happened at Old Trafford yesterday to be a regular event. We are football fans and we want to support our team. We don’t want to spend our days off work protesting outside our football ground. But what happened was the culmination of sixteen years in which your family’s ownership of the club has driven us into debt and decline, and we have felt ever more sidelined and ignored. After sixteen years not one member of the Glazer family has ever had so much as a conversation with us, the club’s Supporters Trust. Yesterday, that frustration reached boiling point. For the vast majority of the thousands of attendees at the protest they made their voice heard peacefully and respectfully. We support the right of fans to protest lawfully and, although we did not personally witness any such acts, of course we do not condone any acts of violence.
None of us want this to continue. We all have better things to do. So we need to find a way forward, and we have a four point plan for you to do that:
1. Willingly and openly engage and promote the government initiated fan-led review of football and use this as an opportunity to rebalance the current ownership structure in the favour of supporters
2. Immediately appoint independent directors to the board whose sole purpose is to protect the interest of the club as a football club, not its shareholders
3. Work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust and supporters more broadly to put in place a share scheme that is accessible to all and that has shares with the same voting rights as those held by the Glazer family. Should the appetite be there amongst fans then you should welcome, and offer no opposition to, the Glazer Family shareholding being reduced to a minority or indeed being bought out altogether.
4. Commit to full consultation with season ticket holders on any significant changes to the future of our club, including the competitions we play in
We request a response to this 4 point plan, in public and in writing, by Friday.
This is the only way to move this issue on. We strongly suggest you take it.
MUST - the Manchester United Supporters Trust

MUST Statement on Fan Protests at Old Trafford - Sunday 2nd May
What we witnessed at Old Trafford today is the culmination of sixteen years since the Glazer family's acquisition of the club. Over that period, the owners have taken £1bn out of the club and we have witnessed decay and decline both on the field and off it.

Whilst the invasion of the stadium isn't something we expected, and it is rumoured a gate was opened for fans, but even if that is not the case we believe the vast majority of Manchester United staff are sympathetic with the views of the fans.

Supporters turned up on the day of a game they could not even attend, to peacefully protest and speak with one clear voice about the change that needs to happen at our club.

On the back of the indefensible ESL proposals, and an “apology” from the Glazers which we do not accept, we need to give fans a meaningful share in the ownership of United and a meaningful voice in how it is run.

The Government now need to act. That has to mean a process which results in fans having the opportunity to buy shares in their club and more to the point no single private shareholder holding a majority ownership of our football clubs which allows them to abuse that ownership.

The Government need to reflect the views of ordinary people who see that now is the time to reclaim the people's game.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 15:08

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Self entitled nonsense.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 15:31
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Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

Everything associated with the scumbag club is nonsense..

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 17:11

Posted by: broady (16903) 

You need to take a chill pill. I understand your conflict with folk on here but at times!!!!! Just too much.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 18:36

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Sorry LG but I agree with Broady, we know there is alot of nonsense associated with that club but "scumbag" is a bit much. I told whups the same.

We could all do with turning the heat down a bit. Hopefully the others will do so too

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 19:13
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Posted by: baker boy (15555)

the glazers intention all along was to use man utd has a cash cow,milking them for all they can. football and loyal fans could be totally ignored.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 19:58

Posted by: Diston (226)

Looks like mob rule to me now, what next if glaziers dont sell.

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 19:59

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

Can i ask if anyone who has posted on here re the protest was actually present .?

Replied: 3rd May 2021 at 22:40

Posted by: whups (5999) 

well laughing boy wont be present grim as he doesnt go to games anyway . if the ground has,nt moved i certainly know where old trafford is . wot i,d like to know from laurel & hardy is why they did,nt condemn bolton fans who did virtually the same as united fans yesterday ? .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 00:09

Posted by: broady (16903) 

"A small group forced entry to the ground while scuffles outside resulted in some arrests"

Not really the same. Neither did they cause the game to be cancelled as the protest was after the game.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 00:14

Posted by: whups (5999) 

a small group i suppose it,s someones opinion on small . it,s the same action no matter how many was there so how come laurel & hardy only comdemned united ? .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 01:40

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Better ask them.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 04:29

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

It will be interesting to see how City fans protest against their owners tonight for nearly selling football down the river or if any of them will even bother to say boo?

Hang on a minute last time they did protest isn't that what they did, booed the Champions League anthem.........that showed em.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 07:13

Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

Whups why on earth would I protest on behalf of Trafford? Broadly Don I'm all for a quiet life if I'm allowed one but you know these lot like confrontation ...

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 11:58

Posted by: whups (5999) 

i wonder if your 1 of those trolls that are sending racist messages to old trafford ? .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 12:15

Posted by: whups (5999) 

i wonder 0yrs which was worse the scenes outside old trafford or your own racially abusing your own players ? .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 12:30

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

My pal from M C was present outside O T during the protest .
I would much rather take his version of events than any other .
It was a very small minority who caused the trouble which you will always get on any protest irrespective of what is being protested .
I am proud to be a utd fan after hearing the true account .Will we see any kind of protest from the bertie fans ?..More chance of seeing Lord Lucan riding Shergar down Deansgate .
I watched the berties so called ambassador micah richards say on sky that he cant criticise sheikh mansour re his part in the aborted E S L fiasco .
Stomach churning dosnt begin to describe ,and before the berties start i opine the same re schmeichels comments about the protest.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 12:33

Posted by: whups (5999) 

grim i believe that the glazers are pocketing all the money & not paying the loan that they took out when they bought the club ? .that surely will go onto any deal that,s done & they are asking 4 billion for the club ? . i think peter schmichel shud be looking more at that & understand more about why the fans are so incensed .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 12:52

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

They took a club that was debt free, bought it with a credit card put the debt from that onto the club whilst sucking over a Billion pounds out in dividends and it's still half a Billion in debt!
And folk wonder why the fans are upset.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 12:58

Posted by: broady (16903) 

The scenes that were shown around the world seemed much more than a few hotheads. They were a disgrace. Some of those protesting were probably in nappies when the Glazers took over the club. What happens if the club gets a points deduction that takes them out of a European place? I feel your opinions are being clouded by the childlike squabbles that are on here every day.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:02

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

My opinions are based on what i have been told by someone who was present .I refute totally your accusation that they are clouded
I would much prefer to believe his version of events rather than a news report on t v which can easily be doctored for sensationalism.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:11

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

chatty .whups .
Only a true utd fan would ever understand why the protest occured .

Red Nev .
The voice of the fans.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:15

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7188)

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:18

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Believe what you will. I can only tell you what I saw on my TV. My experience of being in crowds at the actual ground is that unless you are 8 foot tall you see very little around you.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:23

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

I WILL believe what i have been told by someone who was present and who i know does not tell fairy stories .You believe what you wish based on what you see on t v .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 13:42

Posted by: broady (16903) 

The same DOCTORED photo's in the MEN today. Who should I believe?

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:00

Posted by: frecky (208)

It's the fault of the police for letting them get on the pitch....

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:05

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Why on earth should we protest against our magnificent owners?!!

We will leave that sort of thing to the babies who have thrown their rattle out of the pram because they can't handle the fact that liddle siddy have well and truly knocked them off their rusting and deilapidated perch.

trafford are a has been and and you can't face up to it. Stop your self entitled bitter bleating and get on with it.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:09

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

Yes completely turn a blind eye the fact they was happy to sell football down the river just like you ignore their appalling human rights abuses!

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:44

Posted by: whups (5999) 

he,s supposed to be a united fan grim . i think not after these posts he,s put on i mean "doctored photos" how pathetic to try & win a argument. as far as quibbles are concerned he,s part of it isnt he ? . 0yrs your club signed up like the rest & if they had gone ahead it would have finished the premire league . he doesnt need the money as i,m sure of that & it also shows how much the fans can be bought for a few quid as your comments truely show .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:47
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Posted by: broady (16903) 

Whups, If you check through the posts it’s your mate said the word doctored way before I did. ( his post at 13.11) Try to keep up.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:53

Posted by: whups (5999) 

they would,nt be so "magnificent" if they showed the handcutting ritual on TV would they ? . the only thing being thrown are hands into a basket so better a rattle than a hand.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 14:55

Posted by: whups (5999) 

but you said it too so i,ll keep being a true united fan & not someone who knocks them at every oppotunity

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Posted by: broady (16903) 

When did you last go? So you defend them even if they are wrong? I haven’t been for many years but I suspect you haven’t either. Did you find the scenes on Sunday acceptable? What about if they get a points deduction?

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 15:00

Posted by: Diston (226)

Red nev the voice of reason how many millions did he take of united in wages, thats the trouble with football today players wages and one of the biggest culprits for this is united.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 15:40

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

If you think that pictures cant be doctored or posed for your more deluded than i thought .
Re red nev.
Of course he had good wages .
If you earned 1,000 sovs a week and your boss offered 2,000 sovs you woudnt say no ..
Have the t v pics of the protest shown any coppers misbehaving .?

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 15:49

Posted by: broady (16903) 

They certainly have. It was your buddy said I used the word doctored when it was you. Do you think the behaviour brought credit to a great club? Have you been to OT since the Glaziers took over? If so you have condoned their shameful antics. Of course there needs to be a change to the regime but having games abandoned isn’t the way forward.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 15:56

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

I have been to O T since the glazers took over .
I am a fan who visits the ground in normal cicumstances .
That isnt condoning the glazers .Its supporting the team i have for the past 60 years or so through thick and thin .Home and away .
Did you .?.Have you .?

Do keep up .
I said pictures can easily be doctored .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 16:09

Posted by: broady (16903) 

I never denied pictures could be doctored. I did ask if those in todays MEN were also doctored. I also said I hadn’t been in years. Someone needs to keep up.

BTW What is all the talk of sovs? We went down the Bitcoin route many years ago.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 16:47

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

I go racing and have never but never heard of bitcoin on a racecourse where betting is concerned .
You can go the bitcoin route or any other route you like but i will stick to my sovs if you dont mind .Please keep up re betting .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 17:51

Posted by: baker boy (15555)

if i where a man utd fan i would be peed off with the glazers,discontent must run very deep with the yanks.every man and woman's right to protest at injustice. in whatever form.

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 17:57

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

Not agreed with you on the past B B but thats down to opinion .
Must say i agree with what you say re the glazers .

Replied: 4th May 2021 at 18:03

Posted by: whups (5999) 

grim on the local news today they showed a video of 3 police men giving 1 united supporter a pasting & was very ott . it goes to show that there is 2 sides to a coin . but then again maybe it was doctored or maybe it,s just as disgraceful as the united fans .

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 00:00

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Outside the Lowry. That question has already been asked and answered. Watch my lips IT WAS YOUR BUDDY who first started the talk about doctoring. Do you follow the threads at all?

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 00:11

Posted by: whups (5999) 

i dont care . but you were quick off the mark when it came to united fans causing violence but now this vidio of 3 policemen battering 1 united fan makes it a whole new ball game .

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 00:46

Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

Chatty you also turned a blind eye and lined the glazers pockets with season ticket money year after year did you not? How dare you moan that that they bought the club on debt! You and others have gladly paid into the coffers hypocrites and judas's one and all...

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 00:50

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Give it a rest. No wonder LG wipes the floor with you.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 02:58

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

I wondered how long it would be before it dawned on you to try that angle.
I was following United a good quarter century before the Glazers even knew who they were and hope to be following them long after they have gone.
I haven't bought a pie, pint programme or even a Mars bar inside the ground for decades.
I ventured into the superstore once when it first opened without any intention of buying anything.
Hope that puts your mind at rest laughingboy.
But you not being a football fan just a professional rabble rouser on here I don't expect you to understand.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 07:01
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Posted by: laughing gravy (7336)

I have been laughing the past 13 years at what the glazers were doing to your club I was the only one on here highlighting it EVERY single day but all I got was stick you Trafford fans never said a peep about um till this week! I mentioned how much money they owed and took out the club regularly and saying they only went after free transfers cos they were lot berated me for it, but funnily you are now on their backs 13 years after I started should be thanking me not bullying..

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 07:35

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

EH. "Thanking" you?
The one and only reason you highlight anything concerning United is to try and score points or aim some sort of angst towards their supporters not for any benevolent reason.
We really are in trouble if we are relying on you to tell us what's happening down at OT.
What a case you are.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 08:16
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Posted by: Tiger cat (475)

He certainly is a case chatty, a headcase.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 11:12

Posted by: whups (5999) 

he cant wipe the floor with me broady but he has with you on several occassions . you hav,nt mentioned the police brutality have you ? .

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 11:58

Posted by: fossil (6823)

I spoke to a friend of mine this morning,a season ticket holder at United for a very long time and his opinion was that all the so called supporters who illegally entered the ground 'Should be lined up and shot' (his actual words). Followed by his comments that the bobby should have given the chap on the ground a smack from him.
My opinion is that the Super league is not yet finished with ,and the only way to alter owners attitudes is to punish them by the genuine fans who go to matches withdrawing their support, making the clubs less of a productive cash cow. Having broken Premier league rules give them a swingeing points reduction, which will deter them from future similar ventures as monetary punishment will have no effect at all!
It is disappointing as a Wigan Athletic supporter that the difference in the levels of values of clubs are now dictated by Media cash to the top clubs, and a fairer distribution down the pyramid may make life easier to survive in the lower divisions,and avoid my club and others suffering as a result of the actions of dodgy owners.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 12:43

Posted by: whups (5999) 

why is nobody mentioning the police brutality shown on north west tonight ? .

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 15:28

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Mentioned twice yesterday and in the above.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 15:30

Posted by: frecky (208)

Just wonder what response the Utd fans would have had if the Sheik was their owners and the Glazers owned City......

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 16:48

Posted by: Don GB (215)

It would start with h and end with ypocrisy.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 16:50

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Just reading that Jose’s new club Roma are owned by an American. So it isn’t exclusive to UK clubs.

Replied: 5th May 2021 at 16:55

Posted by: sammys (39) 

Probably play the kids tonight in roma just a formality save the others for the final

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 11:39

Posted by: whups (5999) 

that,s wot we would do sammy but the manager will have other ideas ? .

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 12:24

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

You are not wrong whups .
Given we play 4 games in 7 days you would think its a no brainer that we blood one or two or may be more .
Have you notice the berties are never asked to do that .On the contrary they just whinge a little and the P L bend over backwards to accomodate them.
Favouritism or what .?

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 13:45

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3636) 

I am very saddened at your comments on the recent riots at O/T you appear to be enjoying it and your comments about United . I feel they are utterly unwarranted, after all DON it is not the club's /or the player's or all the staff's fault is it??? I honestly believe it was a nasty small minority that are to blame not as you quote , i mean if one goes down that road well how about calling Liverpool over the bother at Heysel ,, you just cannot use things like that to slag teams off surely ,, I actually don't believe you are that type of a bloke .I do enjoy good banter but all this nastiness is not good for any one don't you agree??? Finally as i have said earlier i wish your team all the best in the CL final you team deserve's it and so doea BRITISH FOOTBALL so stay safe G.B.

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 15:00

Posted by: whups (5999) 

alan he,s been sitting on the shirt lap of laughing boy for ages & it,s no suprise to me about his comments . just because laughing boy runs united down at every chance he gets & i hope chelsea knock 5 past them in the final .

Replied: 6th May 2021 at 16:09

Posted by: whups (5999) 

it,s VERY VERY quiet on here grim .

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 11:25

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

It is whups .
No doubt the deluded one will be posting some fatuous nonsense about Utd he has found on the web.
Wasnt it him who derided me when i posted about
Cavani being a class class striker .?
Shows what he knows eh,

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 13:42

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3636) 

Hi ( whups & Mr Grimshaw)
I posted as you may have seen to ( don gb ) and yet he has not had the decency to return my comments , i do praise people /thing's if deserved but he just slags off united with the other one i cannot understand why they can't accept what man united have achieved ???? SO back to united at last we have got thro to the final , the only dark cloud is because of the disruption of having the pool match cancelled it has alas put the team under a lot of unnecessary pressure now we are having to play all these games in such a short time , but anyway we will cope i have no doubt and would like to congratulate OLE and the squad for reaching the final , this would be a great season if things go to plan ie second in table then hopefully winning the trophy so come you mighty reds !!!!!

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 14:30

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Sorry GB,

I've been busy at work, posted a quick (for me ) message on another thread and thought I would give the site a good trawl later.

I thought I was quite reasoned and factual about the OT riots. It was an embarrassment that was broadcast around the world. However, I alluded to the fact that most of them could be local ne'er do wells and not trafford fans at all.

I questioned and disagreed with LG 's use of the term "scumbag" and correctly stated that the MUST statement was self entitled nonsense and that the protestors are only disenchanted because trafford are no longer the top of the tree.

Do you really think that those riots would have taken place if this season trafford had won the League Cup, on course for a Premier League title and in the final of the Champions League?..........No, me neither.

BTW, I have, in the past, stated that trafford have been magnificent over the years and have done well to stay at the top of the tree for so long, but now it is someone else's turn to shine, and that someone else just happens to be City.

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 16:30
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Posted by: broady (16903) 

I hope those “loyal” fans are pleased with themselves. At a time when they already have a crowded playing schedule they have made it even worse. Well done.

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 17:42

Posted by: whups (5999) 

you never mentioned the police brutality when 3 cops were beating up 1 fan tho . i suppose you did wot you always do , turn a blind eye to it .

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 17:43

Posted by: broady (16903) 

Why should I mention it? Easier to let you keep prattling on about it. If he hadn’t been making a nuisance of himself and was sat at home in the armchair it wouldn’t have happened. However police actions like that are inexcusable and I presume action is being taken. Now there I hope you are happy.

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 17:50

Posted by: chatty (8310) 

Do you really think that those riots would have taken place if this season trafford had won the League Cup, on course for a Premier League title and in the final of the Champions League?..........No, me neither.

"July 2005 Glazer family members make their first visit to Old Trafford. They end up being driven away in a police van for their own safety amid angry protests...."

Green and gold anti Glazer protest 2010.
2008-2011 Premier League Holders.
League Cup Holders 2008--2010.
European Cup Winners 2008.
Finalists 2009 and 2011..

Another one who doesn't let the facts get in the way of his narrative.

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 18:21
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Posted by: whups (5999) 

that in itself is a rarety chatty because they hav,nt been near the ground for 2 yrs.

Replied: 7th May 2021 at 23:54

Posted by: whups (5999) 

me pratteling on about it . you,ve mentioned united fans at least half a dozen times . it seems that you want it one sided just to try & prove your point & turn a blind eye to the police involvment in this .

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 00:02

Posted by: broady (16903) 

You talk utter tripe. Suggest you stick to checking missing dogs in DG. Your football knowledge is no different to anyone else. Maybe less. You were no doubt good on the oche but that's it.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 00:39

Posted by: whups (5999) 

it,s you that cant or wont see your own replies . you,ve got a pair of eyes , use far as dogs are concerned with that face of yours you shud be sniffing bags at the airport.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 01:30

Posted by: broady (16903) 

What in the world are you on about? I really feel sorry for you. Get to bed and relax.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 05:58

Posted by: whups (5999) 

i,m on about you . iv,e defended the fans & the club against these leeches called the glazers & all you have done as a "supposed united fan"is bleat on about crowd violence with united fans against the police . but when i mentioned that police violence was also being commited you ignored it as tho it was somewho "deserved" . if united fans are prosecuted then so shud the police . that video showing 3 cops beating up a unarmed man was shown on northwest tonight & thousands saw it .

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 13:58

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

Well said whups.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 14:07

Posted by: broady (16903) 

I answered that yesterday. You really need to read threads.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 14:08

Posted by: Tiger cat (475)

Have to agree with you whups, some people don't know everything that's gone on but like to put coal on the fire so to speak.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 14:10

Posted by: grimshaw (2727) 

You nailed it T C.
Seems to me that some folk who post allegiance to utd on here are just masquerading and in truth are closet bertie fans .

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 14:23

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (3636) 

Thank you for your reply, I have to state that i have never condoned what that small section of so-called fans did and never will. Because as a true fan it will cause the team a hell of a lot of heartache with the match being called off. They now have to play 3 games in 5 days which is not fair on the players. Another point DON is that i am also a wigan rugby league supporter and it reminds me what you said about team being at the top and now its some other teams time i do agree , for back then WIGAN rugby won everything for years and years and now its another teams time , just like united they have been outstanding from the start of the premier league ,but now it's MAN city's time and one should not begrudge them irrespective of the local rivalry , i know ia m an old fuddy duddy but what i would wish for football is to be like it was back in the 60 s when there was no agro with fans all went to the games and had good banter in the pub after I HOPE stay safe all G.B

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 16:11

Posted by: ianp. (687) 

I am in full agreement with the statement regarding many things you typed above.
What many people fail to see, it is the small few that are responsible for much negativeness and certainly not the majority.
Furthermore, I watched both Man Utd vs Roma games and United's performance differed greatly. Man Utd, in the first game, showed moments of greatness. But, they were awful in the second game and seemed to be half-asleep. I felt, Utd had decided, from the start of the game, that they already, as to say, had it in the bag. For me, only Cavani and de Gea saved them from, what could have been, an embarrassment.
But, I must say, the Arsenal game was more frustrating. Arsenal also seemed to be stuck in the wrong gear and hit everything except the thing that mattered: the back of the net. Villarreal didn't do very much and spent long moments of the game in defence.
Final score: 0:0 and Villarreal couldn't stop celebrating like a bunch of kids given total freedom in 'Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory'.
I was so hoping for another 'all England (Club) final'

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 16:45

Posted by: Don GB (215)

Two excellent, reasoned posts above. Nice one GB and ianP

It's only too easy to take the bait and respond to childish jibes with our own childish retaliatory jibes. That is why I have three posters on ignore. That way I am not tempted to respond to any nonsense and negativity with equal nonsense and negativity.

Recent posts from GB, Broady, ianP, Diston and Frecky have been like a breath of fresh air.

I like Grim's posts, he can be scathing but I always feel that his tongue is usually in his cheek when he pokes to get a response.

GB, you are spot on with the WRLFC comparison. Every dog has his day, when City's good fortunes collapse (and they will), I will be more thankful for the glories of the past than disappointed with the impending tribulations of the future.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 17:21
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Posted by: ianp. (687) 

Thank you! Don GB.
It is perfectly true, especially in our 'Leagues' (soccer and rugby) that teams/clubs have glorious moments and disappointing moments. Some decades ago, Man Utd and WRLFC were unstoppable.
But! It is great that different teams have triumphant times. It would soon become boring if one team dominated and won everything - an issue which is in some countries. I remember watching the German national team play and it was almost the Bayern Munich team - I think, 9 of the 11 players were BM players.
On the topic of Germany and your words 'Every dog has his day', I saw Germany take Brasil to pieces in 2014 (7:1, if I remember correctly) and I saw Germany's miserable and extremely embarrassing performance in 2018. Germany still haven't built a strong team and they (Löw and co.) are working hard to get another World class team together.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 17:40

Posted by: ianp. (687) 

On the topic of Manchester (the two teams and the city), it could soon be a glorious moment. If Utd can put a performance in like they did in the first game against Roma and City can perform at the high-level they are capable of, then there will be great rewards and I am not just talking about 'two trophies'. It should be a driving force for our national team and a worrying thought for the opposition.
Also, it should be a proud moment for all English football fans and an inspirational time for our national team and all concerned.

Replied: 8th May 2021 at 18:06


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