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temperance bars

Started by: Kathy T (12)

I wonder if anyone remembers a temperance bar in King St in the 1950s?
I am sure I remember being taken to one on the opposite side of the Court cinema, further down from where the Turnkey was. My sister says it was in Chapel Lane, but I am sure it was on King St. Hope someone can settle this!

Started: 3rd Oct 2021 at 14:27

Posted by: PeterP (11397)

Kathy type Temperance bars Wigan into search above right and it will open a few threads for you

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 14:40

Posted by: tonker (28058) 

Bono and The Edge walked into a bar.

The landlord said, "oh no, not U2 again"!

Replied: 3rd Oct 2021 at 17:17

Posted by: cindy (5972) 

Were They Lewis,s

Replied: 4th Oct 2021 at 10:30

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Kathy,there was one at the top of King Street,it was supposedly the first place to have glass cups and saucers..but as I say it was at the very top..right hand side going up the street.

Replied: 4th Oct 2021 at 12:37

Posted by: marken (378)

They were both Lewis's. One facing the post office in Wallgate and the other in King St as you say.

Replied: 5th Oct 2021 at 11:15

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

Thanks so much for that everyone-- now I can tell my sister I was right!
I also remember the one in Wallgate-- wasn't it near Malley's shoe shop?
Next question -- When I was about 10 my brothers and sisters and I were taken to a Children's Christmas party in a building in King St ( which I later thought might have been something to do with the Masons) It was incredibly gloomy with pictures on the wall of local dignitaries whose eyes followed us as we went past!
I have a feeling that our local doctor may have arranged for us to go. Can anyone add to this?

Replied: 5th Oct 2021 at 19:45
Last edited by Kathy T: 5th Oct 2021 at 19:53:57

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Kathy..no,Malleys shop was right at the bottom of Wallgate,just before you hit the top of Miry Lane.I don't remember any temperance bars anywhere near there.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 08:42

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

when I read your message about the temperance bar opposite the Post Office, I mistook it for one I thought I remembered near Malley's shoe shop which I know was in Wallgate near Miry Lane. I thought I remembered a temperance bar there, also a newsagents and possibly a dry cleaners-- but memory does play tricks! I grew up around Wallgate but unfortunately, like so much of Wigan, it's changed beyond all recognition.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 17:05

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Whereabouts in Wallgate are you from,I’m from Great George St.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 18:00

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Whereabouts in Wallgate are you from,I’m from Great George St.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 18:00

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Whereabouts in Wallgate are you from,I’m from Great George St.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 18:01

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Whereabouts in Wallgate are you from,I’m from Great George St.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 18:01

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Whereabouts in Wallgate are you from,I’m from Great George St.

Replied: 6th Oct 2021 at 18:02

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

Hello Momac - I grew uo in Queen St.

Replied: 8th Oct 2021 at 23:44

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Kathy,did you know Irene McGovern from the top of Queen St..I think it was either No 70 or 80.

Just ignore all the repeats of my thread,it's always doing that...why..I just don't know.

Replied: 9th Oct 2021 at 04:11

Posted by: aussie94 (2397)

John Bolon ran
one in Scholes. Just up fromWarrington Rd

Replied: 11th Oct 2021 at 11:21

Posted by: fletcher (694) 

There was a temperance bar quite close to Malleys, I think it was called Clariss or something like that

Replied: 28th Oct 2021 at 17:45

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6569) 

My wife's remember's one at top of Atherton RD and Leigh RD ,Hindley Green she says it was there from the 1950s onward now it's a florist shop ...GB

Replied: 4th Nov 2021 at 14:28

Posted by: billyb81 (2)

Yes Kathy I do. My mother used to work in Lewis', the one facing the General Post Office. I'm eighty two years old now, and it seems like only yesterday that I would take my girlfriend on a Saturday night for a milk shake or a glass of pop.
There was also one facing the Ritz Cinema and another one in King Street. We liked Lewis' place the best. I spent some great times there.
Bill Bentley

Replied: 16th Feb 2023 at 19:22

Posted by: billyb81 (2)

Yes Kathy I do. My mother used to work in Lewis', the one facing the General Post Office. I'm eighty two years old now, and it seems like only yesterday that I would take my girlfriend on a Saturday night for a milk shake or a glass of pop.
There was also one facing the Ritz Cinema and another one in King Street. We liked Lewis' place the best. I spent some great times there.
Bill Bentley

Replied: 16th Feb 2023 at 19:26

Posted by: denmal (16) 

In the 50s the temperance bar next to Malleys was run by Mr and Mrs Young. I think Mrs Young's first name was Clara.

Replied: 19th Mar 2023 at 07:50

Posted by: denmal (16) 

Correction - Mrs Young's first name was Clarice, not Clara

Replied: 19th Mar 2023 at 08:10

Posted by: momac (12439) 

I grew up in Wallgate and can't for the life of me remember one near Malleys shoe shop..but the one facing the Ritz cinema I used every day ..I worked at Wilbrooks facing the Ritz cinema so nipped next door to the temperance bar for my morning tea and toast..those were really happy days.

Replied: 19th Mar 2023 at 17:48

Posted by: PeterP (11397)

I remember the Temperance bar opposite the Ritz it had a wall mounted juke box

Replied: 19th Mar 2023 at 21:35

Posted by: riocaroni (683)

Peter is that the place that became the Nu way cafe bar?

Replied: 20th Mar 2023 at 11:02

Posted by: tonker (28058) 

"Pop an' Crisps, anyone"?

Replied: 20th Mar 2023 at 17:41

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

Momac sorry for the very long delay in replying to your post, but I hope you might see this despite it being so long since. You mentioned Irene McGovern and I'm pretty sure we are related to you! My Auntie Mary lived in Great George's St. and my grandmother's sister married a Thomas McGovern. I've been doing my family tree and would be very interested in contacting you

Replied: 16th Feb 2024 at 23:32

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Hello Kathy, Irene and myself weren’t related at all but spent all our school days together and after leaving school we were still together.. she wasn’t very well as she grew older so I still went to see her every week ( my bike took me anywhere.) I was with her when she passed away .. she was the greatest friend I could have wished for.. now my Grandads name was Thomas McGovern if that’s any help oh.. my Grandmas name before marriage was Kinnane and of course she was Irish.. it would be be lovely if we were related.. oh by the way my Grandparents lived at the top of Great George St no 5.. we lived further down at no 23.. hope to hear from you Cathy.

Replied: 18th Feb 2024 at 12:03

Posted by: momac (12439) 

Just thinking Cathy if you lived in Queen St you would have known Irene and her brother, the memory is playing tricks.. they lived at either no. 70 or 80. Which is at the top of Queen St.

Replied: 18th Feb 2024 at 12:08

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

Hi Momac, I lives at 45 Queen St and I know from family history that my grandmother's sister, Bridget Malone married a Thomas McGovern. The Malones lived in Lyon St. We are big family-- my maiden name is O'Loughlin.My Auntie Mary lived next door to McGoverns--does this help?

Replied: 26th Feb 2024 at 23:52

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

Forgot to say my Auntie Mary lived at 25 George's St

Replied: 26th Feb 2024 at 23:55

Posted by: Kathy T (12)

I do seem to remember mention of McGoverns at the top of Queen St--my grandma (Mum's Mum) lived st 25 Queen St . They were McCabes.

Replied: 27th Feb 2024 at 20:05

 

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