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Scotsman’s flash

Started by: kirstiefish01 (6)

Hi just joined today , my husband starting digging the garden to do an sunken. Trampoline & we have found a lot interesting things 2 pairs of shoes clogs , lots ov bottles 1 which says poison on we live on rushdene r garden backs on to Scotsman’s I’ve heard loads of story’s about it but does anybody no y there Would there be all these things under there ????????

Started: 6th Apr 2021 at 15:59

Posted by: momac (11613) 

Kirstie..I would tell hubby to keep digging,there might be a bit of sunken treasure there...as for the things that he's found,I wonder if houses once stood there..someone else may know,
And welcome to WW.

Replied: 6th Apr 2021 at 16:39

Posted by: tonker (23570) 

U no y ov bottles there, in r garden, laaaaike?

Replied: 6th Apr 2021 at 16:58

Posted by: kirstiefish01 (6)

Thankyou for reply the kids r loving it there r 2 cookin pans , coal holder lots n lots of bottles I’m gonna have to wash all the bottles to see what they say , can I not post a pic on here for u 2 see

Replied: 6th Apr 2021 at 17:07

Posted by: lectriclegs (4123)

Keep digging Kirstie, you never know you may come across a dictionary.

Replied: 6th Apr 2021 at 19:31

Posted by: kirstiefish01 (6)

lectriclegs
What’s it to you if I need a dictionary
If you have
Nothing nice to write scroll on
In a world where you can be anything be kind

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 11:21

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7173)

I think Lectriclegs is referring to the fact that you called Scotmans Flash - Scot's'mans Flash, but don't worry about it, because everyone calls it Scotsmans Flash

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 13:11
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 7th Apr 2021 at 13:15:55

Posted by: tonker (23570) 

I don't call it Scotsman's Flash. Because 'I' know better!

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 16:25

Posted by: lectriclegs (4123)

"I think Lectriclegs is referring to the fact that you called Scotmans Flash - Scot's'mans Flash, but don't worry about it, because everyone calls it Scotsmans Flash "

Not so, TTS.
I was referring to the lazy 'text' shorthand way of typing, m8.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 16:45

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7173)

Oh right then, well that's cleared up .....

But there is no need to be 'unkind' about it.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 16:58

Posted by: lectriclegs (4123)

Moi, unkind?

Sc roll on, whatever next.

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 17:06

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7173)

Roobarb

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 17:18

Posted by: tonker (23570) 

Anyroadup, back on subject, Kirstie's 'ouyse, laaaaike, is built just behind Worsley Mesnes farm.
My opinion goes two ways.
Firstly, the bottles etc. could have been rubbish dumped by the farmer.
Secondly, is that the land has been subject to landfill. It follows that refuse could have been dumped there and compacted. It seems that the gardens behind the Rushdene houses are built up on what was previously sunken and flooded land.

A 1961 OS map shows what look to be explorative holes, or could be concrete pillars to bedrock for ground stabilisation.

Didn't Golden Bear work on OS maps? Maybe he could cast some light on it?

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 18:00

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7173)

I can tell yoo about the land where Rushdene is now, by way of what it was like before they built Rushdene, because back in the early 1980s you could drive almost to the edge of Scotmans Flash at that location, and I used to take me dog down there for a swim.

That land was lumpy, and grassed over with shrubs, but it was solid, and it stood proud of the flash by about 2 - 3ft that land was quite a bit higher up than the Yacht Club.
On that map from the 1960s showing what looks to be piles, and piers going down into the flash, as I recall at that exact location of the piles, the land was even higher up, and you sort of drove around to the side of where those pilings were, get to the shore of the flash, the pilings were buried under a mound of grassed over earth, and the shore of the flash seemed to be made of shale, possibly red shale which had weathered or watered into a grey colour.

So looking at that map it seems obvious to me that the subsidence would have been spreading towards Poolstock Lane and the railway line at that location, and possibly making the farmhouse dangerous, so the farmhouse was demolished, and the ground was reinforced with pilings, and the land filled in and raised up, to protect the railway embankment from subsidence, yoo can tell that by the way the pilings are driven almost into the base of the railway embankment, and that they were there to protect the railway line, there also pilings along the railway line embankment (now new road) at the side of the flash

Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 20:16
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 7th Apr 2021 at 20:54:08

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (7173)

I took this picture of Rushdene from the other side of the flash on the canal tow path.



At the side of Rushdene, there is a slice of land, between Rushdene and the old railway line, and yoo can see the concrete piers on the shore line which are part of the pilings system, which was driven into the ground leading up to the old railway embankment.



MAP





Replied: 7th Apr 2021 at 20:38
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 7th Apr 2021 at 20:47:37

Posted by: kirstiefish01 (6)

Thankyou all ????

Replied: 9th Apr 2021 at 13:40

Posted by: kathpressey (5291) 

interesting post kirstyfish01. Take no notice of lectriclegs criticism. Let us know it you dig up anything else.

Replied: 10th Apr 2021 at 08:43

 

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