Tax...who's next.

Smokers. Spirits/beer drinkers. Sugar tax ..petrol. ..Elderly pensioners. Stamp duty upto £125.000 free .then you start at 2% 5% 10% for expensive houses. Not many cheap houses in Wigan
Now she's after those on welfare. What does that tell us ?

BB its not before time they targeted some on welfare. There are some who have never done a days work in their lives and know how to work the system and again there are some who struggle through life and seem to live day by day.The problem is they will go for the soft option and target the most vulnerable not the die hard dole's

labour has put all the taxes up to pay for all the immigrants who get everything free even dental work

I agree houghy1
BUT!! There are many more of the people who were born here that are milking the benefits system dry.
The amount of people who are, so called unable to work because they have MSK and mental health disorders are numerous. The government are now trying to help people with these problems, back into work. I know there are those with genuine MSK who want to work but can't because of the pain they suffer from. But with the right medical help and employers with the will to be flexible about their employees disabilities, a good amount can and want to work.
But on the other hand there are those who have no intentions of working and are happy to spend tax payers hard earned money whiling away their hours in leisure activities. It's the ones indulging in the leisure activities that the government are trying to wheedle out. And rightly so. These people are also getting all the benefits of free dental care, free eye care etc and never paid a penny in tax, not to mention fuel allowances and cost of living allowances and goodness knows what else.

Ironically, I’ve just been to the supermarket and I got myself a bottle of really nice rum, ‘La Recompensa’, for €6.05.
So, it seems they’ve actually dropped duty on alcohol over here. They said they would!
Some wines are now only €1.70. The ones I get are still €2.85, no change there.

There's loads out there who are at it...just down the road from me are 2 brothers and a sister...all live in same house...their late father held council weekly and advised locals on what they could claim including all the dodges etc...his offspring have continued his mentality..fortunately none are married ..no sprigs to continue their ways...none have Ever worked.

I don’t know how they could for shame claim for something they’re not entitled to. I’d feel guilty if I didn’t work and, even though I’m old now, and not in the best of health any longer, I still have my pride, and it’s beyond my comprehension how they can steal a living by thieving from those of us who continue to pay taxes. They take £33.80 a week off me which mounts up over a year and, I know in the big plan of things that doesn’t sound like much, but it’s a lot to me, and I begrudge it going to the lazy, bone idle, layabouts who will spend what little I have to buy their booze and/or drugs, pay for their holidays, cars, etc.

I read somewhere on here that the government are to increase money in their billions for defence. Defence of what? There won’t be another war on land, air or sea and, over the years, bigger and better warships and planes have been built which will never see action. I know we have to be ready for anything, but it won’t happen as long as nuclear warheads are the quickest way to attain anihilation.

Ah, but. We have been blessed with a State Pension increase - in my case - by just £9 a week. Whoopy-do. They’re having a laugh, as all governments past and present have, and that will never change. They giveth, then taketh away.

Well said Mollie

And all the fuss about losing £5odd a week

Handsomeminer...S.W.A.P. is what you are looking for to give that worthless £5 you don't care about.
Based in Penson C/Centre Swinley.

Supporting Wigan Asylum Project....

Who is Mr Miner talking about? Me? Assuming he is, £5 a week may be nothing to the more wealthy on here, but to a pensioner living alone on a fixed income like me, it's a lot, most especially when it's going to the lazy, bone-idle as mentioned above!

I've never once asked the government for a single hand-out in my life, not one penny piece, and I manage on what I have because I still work, despite being 75 years old. How old were you when you finally put your feet up? A lot younger than me, I'll bet!

Well said our Mollie...the brainwashed labourites will steal the air you breathe..some folk are so thick it's Laughable.

My great grandad voted labour
My grandad voted labour
My dad voted labour
That's why I vote labour.

Thicker than a Pit Prop

So £9 is a lot make your mind up

Handsomeminer should remember that many of those who might be missing his £9 might be poorer former ex-members of the mining industry among the not so wealthy 750,000 who after spending a lifetime of working and paying their taxes and national insurance contributions have now had a benefit stopped by a Labour Government and not a Tory one!

As for the voting, many of the sheep are moving to or have already moved to a fresh pasture!

The Workshy must be fearing the worst as it gets closer...70 Billion pounds per year spent on "Disability" claimants. They are coming for you....who's next ?...

Keep up the good work Sir kier,keep making them tough decisions the last incompetent Tory government kept sweeping under the carpet as it tried to cling on to power with no thought for the state of the country

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The Workshy must be fearing the worst as it gets closer...70 Billion pounds per year spent on "Disability" claimants. They are coming for you....who's next ?...

they said that before but i don't think it made much difference

Eight months ago, many who voted Labour to get rid of the Tories were laughing.

As Bob Monkhouse use too say "They are not laughing now"

You wouldn't be saying that if he decides to dip into the NUM kitty of millions of pounds they have hidden and not paid out to the eligable.

Billinge Biker

I take it that your comment was in reply to the one who keeps spouting about the fourteen years of the Tories, those commenting about losing their heating allowance and that Kier is doing a good job?

He will not being spouting it when Fagin Rachael pinches his pocket!

True Owd Codger...always has an answer for everything.

It's very easy to come up with answers to whinging Tories after the last 14 years and just for your information successive governments have dipped into the mine workers pension scheme for years (it's not the N UM) ,OC should know that after all that picketing he did

I only know that that my picketing was was more than a one off in 1984 outside a peaceful NCB Workshops in New Springs having chats with the local boys in blue!

Posted by: Handsomeminer (3065)
"So £9 is a lot make your mind up"

Mr Miner, when I said whoopy-do to the increase of £9, that was a sarcastic remark, or did that pass you by. Taking £33.80 a week off my wages and substituting £9 a week hardly equates, does it. Then, on top of that, taking the heating allowance away from pensioners when it’s needed the most, only to fritter it away on other things was the ultimate smack in the face to the elderly and vulnerable.

I’m one of the lucky ones because I’ve worked all my life, full time from 15 - 60, then part time till now, and I’ve always paid full stamp so my State Pension is reasonable, but I still work to top that up. Others are not so lucky, and older ladies who now live alone and paid the married woman’s stamp, probably gets less than half my pension which wouldn’t be enough to feed an average sized dog a week because the cost of bills don’t decrease; they just keep increasing.

And, just for record, if you haven’t read my posts in other topics, I have NEVER voted for anyone in my life and, for that, I have the privilege of being able to despise the lot of them without anybody saying “it’s your own fault for voting for them in the first place,” and it’s time people got it into their heads that no politician that ever lived cares for the people of this country, as their goal is to line their own pockets - from our money!

I was at kirkless for weeks OC...remember Red Ted

Mollie.
What the Inland revenue deduct from your current employment income has nothing whatsoever to do with youre state pension increase?

Everyone gets a state pension increase regardless of their working status, yourself included.

If you are lucky enough, and, fit enough to carry on working, and also recieve your state pension, I would say you are a lot better off than many other people in your situation.

If you are paying £33.80 per week in income tax you must be grossing approximately £170 per week wages given the current tax rate of 20%?

I will put my hands up, if. my maths are wrong?
Edited. I got my maths wrong!

For those who cannot work percentages out 20% is a fifth of 100% thus £33.80 times five =£169

Thanks, Peter. I got them wrong twice! I give up
I was under the impression that the 20% deduction was only triggered when you crossed the threshold of your personal allowance? Surely you can't be deducted 20% income tax on £170?

Billinge Biker

Not any by name, but I remember one or two with red hair on my regular visits outside my working hours.

Perhaps Handsomeminer being on strike would have known him by name, seeing that he should have been there more than myself.

Cheshirecat some people will be over their tax threshold with their state pension so will have to pay 20% tax on any earnings above that including the state pension I think the personal allowance is £12570 so anything above that you are going to pay 20% tax

Should people who have worked hard all their lives and paid their taxes, national insurance etc and never even considered living on the benefit system still have to carry on paying tax in retirement, especially when the tax is paying for those people coming into the country who have never paid a penny towards what they are being given by both government and council?

Red Ned from aspull a faceman from.plank lane a charachter indeed

Anybody paying £33.80 a week income tax is getting at least £410.73 a week.

peterp
£33.80 his multplied by how many weeks
she works in a tax year so that comes to over
£1700 pounds for 52 weeks she pays on her earnigs

If its the same red ted who rode around on a horse and trap i knew him well.We had a jam session in the Cumberland in Hindley at his funeral.

Tonker quite correct but anyone who draws their full pension will pay 20% tax on any earnings over that .Surfer Tom you are also correct but some people want to carry on working past their retirement age and have to pay tax on their earnings Myself I will have to wait till April to see how my tax effects my pensions .I Have looked at my pit pension which runs from Jan-Dec(£8 a week rise) but will have to wait till April to see if I get hammered with tax my code has changed from 134 to K39 and I already owe them £408.So I have got a rise on my state pension (not compared from last year yet) so will see after April if I gain/lose Then Every thing goes up from gas/elect rates water tv licence etc so even less money to spend

Sounds like the same bloke sonlyme