More People .....


...... watched the inauguration of Donald Trump, the new President of the USA, today, than watched the crowning of King Charles the Third, King of the United Kingdom, on the 6th May, 2024. Probably!
Started: 20th Jan 2025 at 21:25


Not in the UK, I would imagine?
I would be very surprised. Have you any viewing figures?
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Thats because they know he's a good un, Boris should follow his example and make his way back to the PM, he'd pizz it,,,
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America first. All illegal immigrants will be returned.. Only two genders.
That's what we want to hear here...
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admin
You are not on your own, but have we got a powerful leader like Thump in the USA to do it?
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As most people on here know, I have no special interest in politics, but what comes to my mind is this. We all know that he's not playing with a full deck but, if people have voted for a psychopath to have global power, then be it on their own heads.
That's all I have to say. -
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Molly that psychopath gave the pensioners tax free earnings, he did't rob them of their earned Winter fuel allowance like our leader did,
We need more like him
Replied: 22nd Jan 2025 at 22:22

A convicted felon running the country. The man is deranged. PARDON do I hear you say? Yes hundreds of them.
Replied: 22nd Jan 2025 at 22:33
It would appear that the majority of Americans do not share the media brain washed thinking of many of the people of this country where Trump is concerned!
Replied: 23rd Jan 2025 at 09:03
If he is so good, why did he get voted out?
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It was rigged don't you know.
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Only saying that we in our country are the last people to talk about the leaders of the USA!
Replied: 24th Jan 2025 at 09:32

Owd Codger
He may be US President but what he does affects the world
LINK
Replied: 24th Jan 2025 at 11:21

If nothing else, it was certainly a very enthusiastic affair. I thought Elon Musk was ever so slightly ecstatic.
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Posted by: First Mate (2873)
"He may be US President but what he does affects the world"
Only if the world allow him to do so.
Maybe if other countries in the world got their heads together and joined forces they could inflict some economic damage between them.
Replied: 24th Jan 2025 at 18:58

The US is the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. A situation that brings more friends than enemies. It’s very low industrial electricity prices are a magnet for overseas companies that are faced with eye watering electricity charges.
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It will soon run out if and exports will slow down sanctions are implemented. Thus, affecting their economy.
The US imports more than half its crude oil from its neighbour, Canada.
It also imports petroleum. From , wait for it.... Mexico!
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The US is the world’s largest exporter of natural gas. A situation that brings more friends than enemies. It’s very low industrial electricity prices are a magnet for overseas companies that are faced with eye watering electricity charges.
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And how much natural gas do they import from Canada?
The answer is, a lot!
What would happen if the Canadians should stop their supply?
That would be very interesting.
It's quite possible the Canadians could end up with a lot more friends.
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According to my friend in Canada, he wants Canada to become part of the US. She says the Canadians would never stand for that.
Cheshire Cat, what you said earlier about importing petroleum from Mexico, well, he's kicking the Mexicans out of the US, so how will that affect the idiot then?
I can feel something stirring in the wind, and it's not a good feeling.
Also, what does this mean, exactly:
Posted by: admin (1839)
America first. All illegal immigrants will be returned.. Only two genders.
That's what we want to hear here.
Really? There are already only two genders, in all human, animal, insect and plant life. Does he mean no homosexuality, no transgender? Does he mean that those who aren't "straight" will be annihilated? Who next to be kicked out? Afro-Americans, French, Polish, German, people with brown eyes, even those born there? Where will they all go? That is their home. Sound familiar to anyone? Is that really what we want to hear?
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Posted by: mollie m (8247) [View mollie m's page]
"Cheshire Cat, what you said earlier about importing petroleum from Mexico, well, he's kicking the Mexicans out of the US, so how will that affect the idiot then?"
That is up to the Mexicans, Mollie. But they can't do it alone.
If other countries also applied sanctions / suspended trade deals etc that could have an effect. He has also long been critical of NATO.
The man is on a permanent ego trip! He was voted out once, and now he's voted back in again this time with 34 criminal charges added to his CV!
Thats the USA for you
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Mrs Cat, as you know, I don't normally get involved in anything political because, quite truthfully, I don't understand it, and I don't want to. I'm too long in the tooth now to care but, having said that, this is a totally different ball game with an ego-maniac on the loose.
However, I do understand when you say the Mexicans can't do it alone. No, they can't, but if other nations stepped in to help, and he didn't get his own way, then how would he retaliate? He's accustomed to getting his own way, come what may, so it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility for him to send in troops and declare Martial Law! Nothing he does would surprise me.
What other country would vote in a convicted felon. Sort of puts me in mind of Idi Armin, former Dictator of Uganda.
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A famous felonious fraud who, lifelong, has feloniously fulfilled formulated felonies forethwith!
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A nice bit of alliteration there, Tonker, and there will be more felonies as, and when, he gets his own way.
I honestly don't understand why anyone would think he's a good world leader. He is to be feared.
Replied: 25th Jan 2025 at 23:58

Mollie m
The American founding fathers included checks and balances into the constitution.
The president can’t make laws, declare war, choose cabinet members or Supreme Court judges without senate approval. Plus others.
Here’s an interesting take on why Donald Trump won the election from an English based writer.
As I write the last chapter of my book The Trouble With Freedom, exploring why the USA has taken a turn towards populism, the question I have been asked constantly over the last three years is ‘Why do people vote for Donald Trump?’ Like the Brexit referendum in the UK, it may seem like an act of national self-harm. There are even those who dislike him intently but will still vote for him. So why?
It all comes down to how we feel: safe or unsafe; in control or disaffected; economically secure or precarious. It doesn’t matter that in reality the US economy is doing better. It doesn’t matter that COVID mandates and vaccines saved lives. It doesn’t matter that Trump is himself a member of the hated ‘elite’.
What matters is that many Americans no longer feel safe; no longer feel they know where the cultural borders lie; no longer feel at home; no longer know how to be a good American. Cultural change has been rapid and destabilising. From social clubs to shooting ranges, in living rooms and over dining tables, across the political spectrum, people felt their core values, like freedom, and consequently the ‘soul of America’, are under threat.
Threats come from Big Government, Big Tech, China, immigration, fentanyl, intergenerational change, ‘gender ideology’ and critical race studies, but most often, a nebulous ‘globalism’. The concept of national sovereignty has altered, impacting on the relationship between citizenship and who the state grants freedoms and security to within its borders. Economic and military competition from China erodes America’s sense of exceptionalism. Deindustrialisation and the shift to a digital economy raises uncertain futures. Freedom of mobility allows the appearance of ‘strangers’. A global pandemic highlighted the precarity of what we think of as ‘normal’.
Closer to home, consumer freedom and the promise of an affluent future is disappearing in the face of environmental collapse and successive financial crises. Demographic shifts are transformed into rage at an imagined threadbare border with Mexico. There is anxiety as the distinction between man and woman slips into the freedom to choose a gender and new pronouns, while the #MeToo movement hammered home ongoing gendered inequalities. Legacies of slavery and racism will not lie quietly after the murder of George Floyd. Secular and Christian America argue over the line between freedom of, and freedom from, religion in society and politics.
People talk of feeling ‘lost’ and there is anguish at the thought of being forgotten in the maelstrom of these changes. A democratic deficit and polarised dissent seems unable to find solutions. Social media ratchets up the intensity. The Trump campaign simply hammered home the message: America is no longer ‘free’, no longer safe. In Trump’s words: World War III is coming; you might be murdered in your home by illegal aliens; city streets are racked by violence; homes, schools and workplaces have been disrupted by feminism and critical race theory.
Given the choices on offer, when previous options have been shown to be inadequate, it then becomes a rational decision to vote for a man who says he will put things back in place. People will make moral trade offs. People will understand that Donald Trump has flaws. But over 70 million Americans also think he will make some part of their lives feel better.
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"Freedom of mobility allows the appearance of ‘strangers’."
I can agree with that with regard to the USA, as it's the largest multi-racial community on the planet!
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Posted by: gaffer (8283) View gaffer's page
Mollie m
"The American founding fathers included checks and balances into the constitution.
The president can’t make laws, declare war, choose cabinet members or Supreme Court judges without senate approval. Plus others."
Gaffer, I agree with what you've said there, but he isn't a President in the conventional way. He's very quickly becoming a dictator, trying to order about other nations to carry out his demands. The man is a megalomaniac and, if he doesn't get his own way, he'll make their lives hell with threats, which he will carry out if those demands aren't met. There's no question in my mind about that. There's no reason on earth why Americans should feel safe in his hands but, for some reason, they've been made to believe that they will be.
Already he is imposing a 25% tariff on cars, steel, food and anything else coming from Canada into the US, so things will get very expensive there and only the poor will suffer for it. Canada is one of the world’s top producers of hydroelectricity, supplying power to New York and Washington, so Canada will hit back with higher prices. He’s imposing a 10% tariff on China for their goods, so they won’t be very pleased either.
America is already the richest country in the world, and he aims to make it even more wealthy on the backs of poverty, and the poor will get poorer whilst the rich get richer.
With great wealth comes great power, and great responsibility of which he doesn't have.
"The land of the free, and the home of the brave?"
Well, not for much longer.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, but I do think darker days are yet to come from a man who has serious mental health problems.
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Trump has only been in charge 2 weeks and he's already causing disharmony.
He has slapped 25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian goods sparking a possible trade war. He has also said we are out of line on trade with them!
The Canadians and Mexicans should be applauded for standing up to him.
They retaliated ( something he possibly did not expect ) by imposing tarrifs of their own on imported American goods
All told, it doesn't do the world economy and consumers any favours. We could be next in line if he stays on his ego trip and doesn't calm down.
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The price of Maple Syrup and immitation Budweiser will hit the roof!
And Harley Davidsons (no loss there!)
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There will be uproar in America if the price of maple syrup escalates They are worlds largest importers of it.
They use it on pancakes, barbeques, fresh fruit, bacon, sausages etc.
In fact they'll put it on anything!
Replied: 3rd Feb 2025 at 21:09

The Mexican president has agreed to station 10,000 troops on the Mexican/US border. Tariffs paused for a month.
Canadian tariffs paused for a month after conversation between Trump and Canadian pm.
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"The Mexican president has agreed to station 10,000 troops on the Mexican/US border. Tariffs paused for a month."
I wonder if we could come to a similar arrangement with France?
Replied: 3rd Feb 2025 at 21:59

Daily Telegraph, Tim Stanley.
After Trump slapped tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China, economists of Left and Right called him a lunatic: protectionism surely means higher prices, disrupted supply chains, trade war. Super triple bad!
Yet philosophically it makes sense, and the inability of journalists to see the President’s point of view betrays how far free trade has become a religion – a faith, like any other, that’s prone to myth and hypocrisy.
The myth is that free trade built America and is an axiom of conservative thought. In reality, throughout the 19th century, taxes on imported goods provided over half the government’s revenues, and Republican presidents saw them as essential to expand industry and protect US workers from cheap products and labour. To quote President William McKinley, Trump’s mountainous hero: “Free trade results in our giving our money… our manufactures and our markets to other nations... It will bring widespread discontent. It will revolutionize our values.”
That consensus ended with the Depression, which appeared to discredit economic nationalism, and the Cold War, which transformed America into the referee of a new international system. Free trade graduated to orthodoxy. Yet even Ronnie Reagan used tariffs – against Japan – and Joe Biden imposed a 100 per cent tariff on Chinese electric cars, also tripling taxes on some steel and aluminium products. “If the pandemic taught us anything,” said Biden, “we need to have a secure supply of essentials here at home.”
The EU remains a cartel, charging the US around 8-10 per cent to sell cars in its market. In short, economic protection is a fact of life, and comes in multiple forms – from subsidies to currency manipulation to environmental or labour standards –indicating that it is natural for human beings to tip the scales in their favour.
From the White House it looks as if America is currently carrying the weight of the world on its shoulders. The country pays about $820 billion to defend the West while operating a trade deficit worth $773 billion. Its border is overrun by illegal migrants and drugs. In 2023, around 81,000 Americans died from opioid overdoses; a key source of illegal fentanyl is China, coincidentally America’s #1 competitor, routed through Mexico via drug gangs.
You might argue that addiction is a problem of demand, not supply, but to the reactionary mind, migrants, foreign cars and drugs amount to an invasion by other means. Brits agonise over the fact that Americans make more money than us, yet that advantage is being whittled away by crippling medical bills and early deaths – signs that an apparently strong nation is, like the late Roman empire, overwhelmed and crumbling from within.
So, Trump wants to use tariffs to force foreigners to show some respect. When the US recently tried to repatriate migrants to Colombia, the Colombian government refused to play ball. Trump threatened tariffs and visa sanctions; the Colombians folded an hour later and offered to send their presidential plane to collect their people.
Trump tried similar tricks in his first term and even free market Republicans made their peace with what they hoped was a temporary tool of foreign policy coercion. The interesting question, the one that really matters, is this: does Trump Mark II, emboldened by a new majority, now want to make these tariffs permanent in order to rebalance the domestic economy away from taxes on income and towards taxes on imports? To quote that gold standard of US journalism, USA Today: is this about “revenge” or “revenue”?
For there really is a moral case for tariffs. In a protectionist state, goes the argument, there is less need for welfare because jobs are plentiful; less incidence of social unrest because wages are high.
Prices might go up – though they barely did in Trump’s first term – but that’s the whole point. While income taxes penalise effort, tariffs, by hitting consumption, encourage frugality and saving. Citizens grow their own food, make their own products and defer pleasure, all critical ingredients of the Protestant-capitalist ethic. The rhetorical link between addiction and free trade/open borders is apt. Trump wishes to make his country not just great but sober and independent, weaned off the opium of cheap Chinese imports.
To those who say, “this is a variety of social engineering”, one might reply: “so is net-zero”. Few of us practice economics objectively; it’s a means to build the society you want.
Trump has thus dragged a latent culture war into the open. On one side are liberals who believe the world must pool resources and sovereignty to save the planet. On the other, nationalists argue that however well-intentioned this is – even if anthropogenic climate change is real or the global south has a legitimate claim for reparations – what it means in practice is powerful democracies losing their edge.
The world is a jungle. Nation states, like individuals, should put their own people first. We can carry on down the path of signing treaties and lowering barriers and, for a while, it will make Americans feel like the strongest consumers in history, driving off to see their oxycodone dealers in their cheap little electric cars. Till the day comes that China says it wants Taiwan, and Beijing is too strong for anyone to stop it.
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Posted by: tonker (29129) [View tonker's page]
"I wonder if we could come to a similar arrangement with France?"
We did. And, we still have. It's costing us millions!
Do you think its all going to plan and we are getting our "moneys worth?
Replied: 3rd Feb 2025 at 22:39


I think they've sold us a string of onions!
Replied: 3rd Feb 2025 at 22:56
cheshirecat
In your opinion, but on the other hand others might think that we have saved millions!
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Trump is at it again.
He wants Egypt and Jordan to take in Palestinians to clean out Gaza.
In the meantime, he is evicting immigrants out of his own country as he doesn't want them! Hypocrite
Why does he keep poking his nose in other countries business?
Replied: 4th Feb 2025 at 22:44


Why? I thought that was a foregone conclusion. Because he's mad, that's why. He's a loose cannon.
If those immigrants are there legally, no matter what their home of origin is, black, white, Asian, Oriental, then he's ostensibly provoking another civil war. I think he'd enjoy that. Where will they go if they've made the US their home? I said he'd start on the people (above), and I was right. It's possible that some of those immigrants were daft enough to vote for him so, to thank them, he gives them a kick up the jacksy.
I wonder how long it will be before there's an assassination attempt on his life? He's like one of those James Bond baddies who wants to rule the world, and needs locking up with a darned good shrink.
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mollie m
It would appear that the majority of Americans do not share you opinions about Trump who unlike Starmer was elected by a majority vote!
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President Barack Obama has often been referred to by immigration groups as the "Deporter in Chief."
Between 2009 and 2015 his administration has removed more than 2.5 million people through immigration orders, which doesn’t include the number of people who "self-deported" or were turned away and/or returned to their home country at the border by U.S. Customs and Border Protection .
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Yes he did. gaffer. And rightly so.
Most of them were convicted criminals.
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Quoted From your link.
"Most of the 2 million people who have been deported under President Barack Obama were expelled after committing minor infractions,"
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CC
Not for the first time are you being economical with the truth.
The article also states,
The New York Times found in an investigation of government records that two-thirds of immigrants deported from the U.S. since 2008 committed minor traffic violations or had no criminal record at all. Another 20% — about 394,000 people — had a criminal record or faced drug charges.
Replied: 5th Feb 2025 at 13:18


Gaffer.
They were immigrants, Full stop. And in my mind they should be deported with, or without a criminal record.
It's just a pity that we don't adopt the same policy in the UK instead of accommodating them!
I'm not a big fan of Trump but I do agree with his stance on immigration.
My original point was that Trump doesn't want immigrants in his own country, and rightly so. However he wants Egypt and Jordan to accept Palestinian immigrants. Hypocrisy at its finest
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Naughty Pussycat
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CC
You ought to take a course in geopolitics. Trump is flying a kite on Gaza. He wouldn’t want to fall out with his Middle East allies none of whom will have the Palestinians at any price. It’s always been the case of a fear and loathing of Palestinians by the Arab states including Iran.
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Posted by: gaffer (8296) [View gaffer's page]
CC
"You ought to take a course in geopolitics. Trump is flying a kite on Gaza"
Maybe he is. But he's not got the reaction and support he craved with his ethnic cleansing idea. His kite is descending.
Replied: 6th Feb 2025 at 13:00

CC
He’s got exactly the reaction he wanted. His objective is to clear Hamas from the Gaza Strip since there can never be a two state solution, or peace, as long as they are there.
His proposal is intended to make people think, his hope is that the Arab world will provide a peacekeeping force along with Israel to ensure that the Palestinians and the Israelis can coexist in peace.
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You have got that well, well, wrong, gaffer! Way, way off the mark.
Not all Palestinians are Hamas. The majority are law abiding civilians with families. Just like us. As for the two state solution, it needs Israel to co-operate to achieve that.
Trump wants Gaza turned over to the United States by Israel.
Trump wants to own it, and the residents ousted / displaced.
It has been condemned by countries globally, including the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland, Brazil, China, Russia and many more!
Not many supporting his deluded pie in the sky idea.
Can you name any in support of it?
That is not the reaction his ego craved!
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Sometimes, dementure can be unnoticeable!
PS: that comment is aimed at Trump, by the way, not Gaffer. Just to put things right before the fluffy-tailed one starts whingeing!
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El Tonko....you can be a Cad at times..
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Posted by: tonker (29150) View tonker's page
"LINK : Sometimes, dementure can be unnoticeable!
PS: that comment is aimed at Trump, by the way, not Gaffer. Just to put things right before the fluffy-tailed one starts whingeing!"
Ethnic cleansing, and where have we heard that before? My second post about “who next to be kicked out --- sound familiar to anyone?” Trump keeps a copy of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” under his pillow for a little light reading before he has a happy kip at night full of wonderful dreams of world leadership.
When realisation starts to dawn on the people as to what they’ve done by voting him in, and how much poverty he’ll bring to the nation, they will be up in arms and quite possibly start rioting at the injustice of his actions, and turn against him. Then what will he do? I know, at least I think I know, but do you? What would you envisage at such a scenario? What would be the logical conclusion?
He doesn’t care about the citizens of the United States. He only cares about the power his position has given him, and he will use it to its maximum. He’s like an irresponsible child who gets hold of a box of matches, lights one, and watches it burn and sets fire to things around it. I realise that my views conflict with those of others, which is to be expected and respected, but these are my opinions; nothing more. He is the Dark Man, and his ego won’t accept anyone who opposes him.
I don’t think he cares all that much about the economy of the country, because he will remain comfortable in his own wealth, and happy with those who surround him who worship him with loyalty. No matter what happens, he’s never known poverty, and probably doesn’t even begin to understand the plight of thousands of Americans who live under the breadline and will struggle to eat, heat their homes (if they have one), pay for medical assistance for the sick and the dying, which is already beyond the means of many. He’ll be penalising people who don’t have a job next and, because they contribute nothing, he’ll send them packing as well.
He has no sense of reality, and what he’s doing is a power game and is treating people with contempt and even distaste. Someone who lacks integrity, kindness, wisdom, sincerity, and empathy, is right on the edge of psychosis.
In the history of the US, which other President has attempted to achieve world dominance? Oh yes, different Presidents have implemented various strategic policies, but none have had such a dangerous agenda as Trump is displaying.
What exactly does the US have to export that is essential to ours, and any other country’s economy? Oil? The Canadians have got plenty to share out, so have the Arabs, but I don’t know the financial implications there. Harley Davidsons? Well, I think we could manage without them. What else? Can’t think of a thing of any great importance.
I’m not being paranoid over this, but trying to be realistic as to the possible - probable - outcome of this man’s attempts to become a world leader, not just the ruler of a nation.
I don’t read newspapers, and I don’t watch the news, so I haven’t been brainwashed by any kind of media, but this is gut instinct; a woman's intuition; call it what you will.
Your combined knowledge of politics is far greater than my own, but this isn’t a political discussion on my part, per se. This is about a man with visions of grandeur on a massive scale and is an egotistical maniac.
He should not be cheered - he should be feared.
Replied: 6th Feb 2025 at 19:49
mollie m
There are some far worse people to fear in the world than Trump.
Some of them now in our country!
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He certainly tells it as he sees it. And he's right too about France and England. Large parts of our country are unrecognisable. We are a tiny country compared to most European countries and the US. We are becoming swamped.
Replied: 8th Feb 2025 at 14:51

Donald’s latest,
He won’t deport Prince Harry because he has enough problems with Meghan.
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Posted by: Owd Codger (3993)
"mollie m
There are some far worse people to fear in the world than Trump.
Some of them now in our country!"
For example? If they do exist, then they are not a world threat; whereas he will create mayhem, anger and more than likely cause an uprising amongst Americans, and will also create hatred amongst other nations, making a name for himself as the most despised President to have ever lived. Sorry owd lad, but that attempt at defending him sounded a little bit like encouragement to make me change my mind about him, but it won’t. I know I’ve gone on and on about this, but it’s because I’ve never felt so strongly about this man, and believe in my own convictions that he’s a very dangerous human being, and for that I won’t apologise. We’ll have to wait and see what he does a year from now - if he lasts that long.
Hmm, nobody else has challenged me on my last post, except Mr Codger. I wonder why, so I’ll reply to the stupidity of the man in Tonker’s link.
Posted by: tonker (29156) View tonker's page
"Gerr'em telt Don, owd lad!"
What incredible culture and tradition is he talking about? He mentions Paris and London, not France and the United Kingdom as if they’re not connected. That was like when Paris Hilton was asked if she’d ever been to England, to which she replied “No, but I’ve been to London.”
The man clearly doesn’t know the history of his own country. America as it is known today only became established and inhabited by peoples from other countries in or around the 17th century, (not including slaves from Africa), so it’s hardly built up a history of culture and tradition like we have had here for over a 1000 years. Until then, it was inhabited by indigenous Native Americans who were perfectly happy and contented with their lives until the White Man moved in and took their land from them and dammed up the rivers so they had no water to drink, murdered them, raped their women, and it was the White Man who took the first scalp, not the Red Man.
Culture - oh yes, gun culture, as mentioned in the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution some 200 or so years ago, to allow people the RIGHT to bear arms. It hasn’t changed since the days of the Wild West.
Traditions - American football, baseball, basketball, cheer leaders, gas guzzling 8-cylinder cars, low standard of English in schools. E.g. President George W Bush was once heard to have said “There is no such word in French as entrepreneur!” and “IS our children being taught English?”
He was daft, but not dangerous. I think people are under-estimating the power he now has and, if necessary, he will try to brow-beat other nations into doing things his way - or else!
Posted by: gaffer (8298) View gaffer's page
"Donald’s latest,
He won’t deport Prince Harry because he has enough problems with Meghan."
Gaffer, he won’t kick out anyone with wealth and position because they’re an asset to the country, as that would be contradictory to his agenda, and wealthy people could in turn do him a lot of damage. He’s mad, but he’s not daft.
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Mollie, I know he's the president of the USA, but he's only a figurehead. What he says doesn't 'go', if you know what I mean. There's a government behind the scenes and a 'senate' who have him under control.
Rather like the set-up here in the UK.
There's always a 'them men'.
Replied: 8th Feb 2025 at 21:46
tonker
Exactly, which is not the case where other more dangerous world leaders are in power like in Iran, North Korea, Russia etc, all of whom have a leader who cannot be deposed by the ballot box or impeachment.
Replied: 9th Feb 2025 at 07:12
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