Define a working person

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I thought whups or HM might have defined the working person.

Someone who gets a wage slip for hours worked and pays tax and and insurance on said article? What's difficult about that?

What about folk who work and fiddle tax,plenty of those.Always has been and always will be.

More so in the higher paid executives who pay themselves from foreign accounts and are careful to evade tax and claim not to avoid tax, Also the Asian community are well known for evading tax, These bandits should be brought to book before stopping the OAP's winter help,

What about employed / self employed people who do "jobs on the side" like unblocking a sink, fixing a leak or painting your bedroom and don't declare it? Thus avoiding paying income tax.

They are as guilty as any other tax avoider. Its costing our economy billions of pounds

Cheshire Puss

In the decades since Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1979, taxation has shifted from 'direct' taxation on earnings, to 'indirect' taxation on the items which folk buy 'spending' and for many years the overhaul burden of tax on people in percentage terms, from both types of taxation was about the same, what folk were charged less in income tax, the corresponding amount was taken from them in higher indirect taxation, the only thing wrong with that being that poorer people were worse off, because they had to pay the higher rates of 'indrirect' taxes such as VAT, as indirect taxes were raised to make up the shortfall from the reduced revenue raised from income tax, as the income tax pence in the pound rate was reduced from 35 pence in the pound to the present 20 pence rate in the pound on the lower rate of income tax, so although folk can avoid paying 'direct' taxes such as income tax, they cannot avoid paying 'indirect' taxes being raised by taxes such as VAT

Tommy.
I'm very happy to see that you are putting your A Level in economics to good use. I'm proud of you

But, and its a massive but. It does not alter the fact that employed / self employed people who do "jobs on the side" like unblocking a sink, fixing a leak or painting your bedroom and don't declare it? Thus avoiding paying income tax.

Unless you know better?

I agree chesh

Cheshire Puss

I have not got 'A' level Economics, I have not even got CSE maths

Tommy.
You told me lies, then

On a previous thread you stated that you had!


Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16415)

Cheshire Puss

"I have got 'O' and 'A' Level Economics."
14th Oct 2024 at 17:21.

Were you making things up, again?

Many "working class" people which includes many who are employed and also many on benefits are not paying tax by selling goods on the internet and storing the goods in empty garages and storage units which have sprung up in every town and city.

Together with the money laundering by foreign owned barbers shops, convenience stores, takeaways etc, a reason why the powers that be in government are trying to create a cashlesss society to combat what they know is now a multi million pound black economy affecting the real economy of the country.

Might explain why so many are coming here by illegal means to join the racket!

“We shall be forced to take up arms against them”!

I think it will come Tonker.

well i,m still paying tax 1st mate .

Look forward to paying more whups

'A working person is someone who buys their own suits and their own glasses!'

Define a working person?

Me!

Worked for 60 years straight; never stopped to have kids; always paid maximum women's tax. Oh, and never voted for any of 'em, which I've said before.