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Bakkavor Food Factory

Started by: Owd Codger (3764)

Apparently, it is to close with the loss of 750 jobs.

Will be interesting to know what if anything local MP Lisa Nandy and the local Molyneraux led Council will be doing about it?

If anything like the closure of all Morrisons stores in the town centre and Ince together with other businesses, the answer will be nothing!

Started: 11th Sep 2024 at 08:42

Posted by: retep1949 (1299)

It used to be Hitchens Food.

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 09:20

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

Owcodger.
Could you please explain what you would like Lisa Nandy and the council to do given, the said situation?

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 10:12

Posted by: admin (1786)

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO WORKS THERE. HE SAID THE MAJORITY OF WORKERS ARE FOREIGN. WHO CAN HARDLY SPEAK ANY ENGLISH. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO FIND ANOTHER JOB ? NO DOUBT SOME OF THE PENSIONERS FUEL ALLOWANCE WILL GO TOWARDS PAYING THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT.

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 11:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Admin

I have been told that, the supervisors are Polish, as are most of the employees and they don't speak English. and are unfriendly and even nasty to any English workers.

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 11:17

Posted by: thaknows (590)

''I have been told that, the supervisors are Polish, as are most of the employees and they don't speak English. and are unfriendly and even nasty to any English workers.''
In that case, Let them eat cack

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 12:13

Posted by: tonker (28678) 

According to form, the company is doing well, enjoying an increase in profit margins and paying high dividends to shareholders due to operational efficiency.
The company itself is expecting the closure of Ince to cause "an £80 million hit" on business in the first half of next year.
Why fix something that isn't broken?

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 12:31

Posted by: Owd Codger (3764)

When this Bakkavor bought the Hitchen's company, they replaced all the British seasonal workers with Polish workers and nothing was done about the descrimination that the company carried out!

And no doubt unlike any British workers who lose their jobs around Wigan, they will no doubt be well looked after by the MP and the Council, especially as the workplace is in the ward of the leader of the Council.

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 15:55
Last edited by Owd Codger: 11th Sep 2024 at 16:18:28

Posted by: tommy39 (513) 

yes admin the heating allowance that nandy panda voted to remove,don't forget folk's labour are not your friends,neither are tories come to that

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 17:26
Last edited by tommy39: 11th Sep 2024 at 17:26:55

Posted by: scorpion (887)

So is the company closing because they don't want to spend money on the factory? It was a dump when I worked there around 15 year ago so must be even worse now. I remember they favoured agency workers rather than their own staff.

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 18:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Well the factory has now been there for decades, so I would imagine it needs there to be a new energy efficient building, along with the latest high tech equipment, to make the production process has a whole a lot more efficient, resulting in a more profitable business emanating from the Ince site.

BUT

Is that the whole story ?

The supermarkets which Bakkavor supply, use a 'just in time' approach to stock control, which will obviously apply to the fresh stuffs which Bakkavor make, but in the case of each business, they want to 'product' out of the factory and straight on to the supermarket shelf, and on to the customer, so could the decision to close the Ince factory be a 'logistical' decision ?

Where that factory is located in Dobson Park, makes it very inaccessible to the motorway network, so maybe they want a factory in a better place to transport goods to and from, maybe from the Gemini or Omega parks in Warrington

Replied: 11th Sep 2024 at 18:49

Posted by: whups (14267) 

you shud,nt have voted us out of the EU shud you . now your moaning .

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 01:12

Posted by: Owd Codger (3764)

Whups

Whats the closure of a factory in Ince by a company who have as yet given no indication of their future plans got to do with the EU.

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 08:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

According to that article posted by Gaffer, LINK the EU is in Dicky's Meadow

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 09:59

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

Prior to leaving the EU importing food was a continuous and free flowing operation. Since leaving the EU border fees amongst other things were introduced making it more expensive to import goods. Or it could be that the factory is just unsustainable

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 10:05

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss

We have a free trade deal with the EU so no tariffs, but there is more paperwork, which is actually electronic paperwork carried out by computers, I mean when there is such a big change in things, as in us leaving the EU, of course it is going to be a bumpy ride for a while, and folk like yoo who wanted us to stay in a dying institution, will of course 'try' and make political capital out of it, you are fighting your corner over the tissue.

But keep to the facts, or else yoo might find that you are coming out with a issue of lies

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 10:28
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 12th Sep 2024 at 10:28:54

Posted by: gaffer (8204) 

A spokesperson for Bakkavor said: “Bakkavor has set out clear priorities to ensure we are in the best place to operate efficiently, whilst also being able to deliver for customers. As we continue to deliver on these priorities, we can confirm we have made the difficult decision to propose the closure of our Bakkavor Meals site in Wigan which employs 750 people.
“Our Wigan site, one of our 21 UK factories, requires significant investment which, combined with the fact that it is unprofitable, makes the position unsustainable. We’ve undertaken a thorough review of options and despite our best efforts it has not been possible to find a viable solution. Furthermore, we believe there is no realistic prospect of being able to do so in the foreseeable future.

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 12:06

Posted by: Billinge Biker (2683) 

Sounds like a good riddance to a bad bunch...get back to whence you came.

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 12:48

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

Tommy.
There are only no tariffs on goods only IF they fit into the rules of origin requirements. That is a fact, not a lie

A lot depends on what you are buying or selling.
A lot of Businesses do not take the zero tariff route as it is very complicated ( due to the rules of origin requirements) and not worth the effort.
A simple example of the rules of origin requirements is say for instance, you buy a container load of cheap plastic merchandise from Taiwan. You put English packaging on it, and then decide to export it with minimum change. If so, you will be required to pay a third country tariff

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 13:09

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss

So what, that is just the extra paperwork involved, because we are not in the EU anymore, leaving the EU involves the 'Swings & Roundabouts' thing, nothing is perfect, yoo cannot cherry pick, you have to take the 'Rough with the Smooth' anyway balls to the metaphore's, because I am a busy man

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 15:08
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 12th Sep 2024 at 15:10:22

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Just thinking though, 'Swings & Roundabouts' is the wrong metaphor or analogy to use when describing the EU, because we don't have any swings or roundabouts now, because of EU health and safety legislation, which banned them

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 15:14

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

I thought you were busy, Tommy?

Or have you just realised that your "no tariff" comment was a misleading lie and you are backpeddling

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 16:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss

Reet then, so you want a feight

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 16:19

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

No thank you.
The pen is mightier than the sword.

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 16:28

Posted by: tonker (28678) 

If I had a pen I'd send you a card!

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 18:21

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss said:

"The pen is mightier than the sword"

Not necessarily, because it depends just what you are writing, if what you are writing about, is a load of codswallop, then there is nothing mighty about that

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 18:38

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

Tommy.
Comment taken on board. Thank you.
A bit of friendly advice for you.
Don't take this the wrong way....but, if thats the criteria you adopt, then you are more suited to the sword.

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 18:50

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss said:

"Don't take this the wrong way....but, if thats the criteria you adopt, then you are more suited to the sword"

So if I think someone is talking crap, and I say so, then I am doing something with a sword ?

I am just expressing an opinion that's all, nowt do with a sword ?

The pen can be mightier than the sword, but it just depends what the pen is writing

Replied: 12th Sep 2024 at 19:22

Posted by: Owd Codger (3764)

If we have a free trade agreemnt with the EU, that is what we understood we were voting for at the time of the Heath Tory Government in the seventies.

We do not need a EU Political Parliament of MEP's on a gravy train of staying in five star hotels and dining in Mitchelin star restaurants in Brussells telling our country what constitutes a truth Cornish Pasty or what length a sausage should be!

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 08:03
Last edited by Owd Codger: 13th Sep 2024 at 08:04:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Owd Codger

Agreed

But some cats think that the same cream tasted better when we were in the now {{DAMNED}} EU

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 10:58

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

This year, Tommy

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 11:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Cheshire Puss

Congratulations

Don't worry though, I have been told that, that that last year which government has stolen off us, just flies by

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 11:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16379)

Jeeze ........

Cheshire Puss

Are yoo trying to give me headache, you have replied on the wrong topic

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 11:22

Posted by: whups (14267) 

you & your numpty farage followers did this .

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 15:50

Posted by: gaffer (8204) 

Whups

They don’t have factories in the EU. Because they are chilled food suppliers their factories are near to the markets they serve. Their markets are the UK, USA and China.

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 18:08

Posted by: tonker (28678) 

Gaffer, France and Spain too. Apparently.

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 20:28

Posted by: cheshirecat (1297) 

I would imagine they would import some of the fresh ingredients from the EU. Fruit, veg etc?

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 21:07

Posted by: wnwanderer (64)

Lots of rubbish in here from the usuals again I see.

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 21:57

Posted by: tonker (28678) 

Cheshirecat, here's a list of Bakkavor's Imported Commodities.

Replied: 13th Sep 2024 at 22:17

Posted by: whups (14267) 

who mentioned owt about EU factories ? .

Replied: 14th Sep 2024 at 01:30

 

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