WHO VOTED LABOUR
If you're a Pensioner Hope you are Happy NO Winter Fuel Payments NOcap on Care fees Oh!! But we welcome Asylum seekers we will home and feed them and give them FREE medical care..
Started: 29th Jul 2024 at 19:01

Asylum seekers are not the problem, it’s the uk citizens like you and me who are happy to swindle billions every year from the benefit and tax systems.
Asylum seekers cost us millions, benefit and tax fraud costs us billions!
Why do we never hear you complaining about those responsible for this?
Not one yourself are you???
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 20:20


Spot on admin, work all your life, save for pension age and get stabbed in the back,
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 20:21

I told um Stormer was not on our side all along, Now who's a toerag ?
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 20:55
IAM happy with it wealthy pensioners don't need it
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 22:02
And let's be honest the state of the country is down to14 years of Tory mismanagement it won't be put right in 5 years I doubt it can be put right well done Tory voters
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 22:04

I retire this winter. I was looking forward to some help. . I'm not on pension credit , just the basic state pension . Not took them long as it ? Damned labour government .
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 23:16

I'm not a tory but they did help us out with winter fuel allowance and I will miss it, Here's hoping for a mild Winter and if you're ok jack, come drop off a few bob for a long time worker and contributor to the british economy
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 23:32

this is only if your claiming certain benefits . those who are not will get all the other benefits . this is nothing to do with immigrants .
Replied: 29th Jul 2024 at 23:52
Tom we have lost all of the three amigo's "Stardelta" has bit the dust
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 06:58

Don't remember seeing that in their manifesto .
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 07:01
WHUPS quote " this is nothing to do with immigrants "
The UK spent £4.3 billion on costs associated with asylum seekers in the UK in 2023, compared with £3.7 billion in 2022.10 Apr 2024
In 2023/24 the government of the United Kingdom is expected to spend approximately 2.05 billion British pounds on the winter fuel payment
Tell me the Pensioners of England (Nothing mentioned about Wales and Scotland ??) Are not financing Asylum Seekers
Q.E.D.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 07:53
Wolfs in sheeps clothing springs to mind!
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 08:11

At least we can be consoled in the knowledge that the big strapping lads off the boats will be kept nice and warm in their hotels this winter. .
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 08:12
MrsC
You missed out 4 and 5 Star after their.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 08:26


Labour will continue to shoot themselves in the foot..and their followers who voted for them will be BAAAA'ht heat. Nigel will return sooner than you think.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 09:10

You may be right there BB . Labour voters must feel like Turkeys . This govt may not last till Christmas .
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 09:37
I voted labour and am not surprised they have needed to take such drastic action after the way the previous tax raising liars put the country in such a desperate state!
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 09:57

Sure that last lot were a shambles . The worst in history . I loathed them .
But labour said they were going after the rich . Do you think a person on the basic state pension is rich ? In one fell swoop they've impoverished me more than any Tory did .
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 10:09
We voted for Reform,Labour died with John Smith, it may be the old age pension next, and the last time Labour were in,they came into a quite well off country, and left it broke, and the boat people should get nothing, that would save a fair amount of money, and may stop them coming.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 12:18
What I want to know is who let the sheep out of the fields on th 9th July to create a frying pan into the fire situation?
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 13:46
Last edited by Owd Codger: 30th Jul 2024 at 13:52:52


I AM A PENSIONER AND I AM QUITE HAPPY WITH MY FINANCES I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE BELLY ACHING IS ALL ABOUT JUST GET ON WI IT !!
g..b.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 15:53
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I AM A PENSIONER AND I AM QUITE HAPPY WITH MY FINANCES I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT ALL THE BELLY ACHING IS ALL ABOUT JUST GET ON WI IT !!
g..b.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 15:53
I'm sure those who will struggle to juggle heat or eat this winter. will just get on with it.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 15:59
Last edited by First Mate: 30th Jul 2024 at 16:00:10
14 years of Tory mismanagement and the closet Tories are out in force pathetic bunch of losers
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 20:37
Mrs C are you old codger in drag
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 20:43

somebody had to fund the junior doctors 22% rise.It's the pensioners.
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 21:12

give them a break they have only been in power a month .
Replied: 30th Jul 2024 at 23:42
And already we are seeing examples of things which were not mentioned prior to the election which will affect the everyday living of working class people
Ending of the heating allowance for people not on benefits and pension credit.
Proposed increases in taxation.
Some people need to wake up and realise that the new lot are no different than the old lot!
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 07:20

the black hole in public funds created by your beloved tory party who gave it to their already rich friends & hanger on,s todger .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 12:05
Here he is,Chairman Whupsy. Cheerleader for the Woodentops.
Ready-made excuses about Tory spivs, I don't suppose any Labour MPs have ever done any wrong at all have they?
If they have, we won't here anything about it from the Chuckle Brothers.
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 12:49

yes and mr brassnack at it again with numpty replies . now evidence has appeared on the mess the torys left the public financies in fools such as brassneck turn a blind eye to it . maybe it,s because he loves his beloved tory party that much .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 14:55
Brasstoff
I have often wonder if his favourite group is Simple Minds!
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:02
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wots yours "stupid minds" . i,m suprised you can get up in a morning .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:05
Whups is never wrong,he lives in a world of his own.
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:12

neither are you it seems with your post . pot calling kettle here .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:14
Dimin0
Substitute house on for world of!
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:20

cant even spell either .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:22

Wot? Who spells what like that workshy? Thicker than a dockers wallet
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 15:25
Whupsy, everyone who comes on here knows you're not the brightest lamp in the street, but even a dimbo like you must see that everyone is laughing at you. Chairman Whupsy!
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 16:35

your even dimmer brassneck .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 17:00
A Tory propagandist loses less than £5-80 a week and is thrown into poverty pathetic
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 17:30
Of course, I never thought of that, a Tory propagandists.
Well I didn't vote Labour so that must mean I voted Tory!
The Chuckle Brothers strike again
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 19:25

Like it or loath it, Starmer and the Labour Party won the election fair and square, he and they have a large mandate to govern this country for the next five years, so I think it will be just a case of wait and see, and see what 'goodies' or 'baddies' they have lined up for us in the Budget speech, which will be given on the 30th October 2024
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 21:38

brassneck the chuckle brothers are no more & hav,nt been for a number of years . you,ll have to come up with somrthing more original than that . that,s if you,ve any brain cells in that vacuum you call a head .
Replied: 31st Jul 2024 at 23:36
Tommy Two Stroke
If you think that one party won the election fair and square under a outdated voting systen which resulted in one party getting 411 seats when only 37% of the public voted for them while another party only got 5 seats even though they got nearly as many votes as the winning party, then there is someting wrong with your thinking about democracy.
Many other countries have got rid of the first past the post system when they have seen more and more of their electorate not voting which in our recent election went over fifty percent as a result of their being two right ring parties, a left wing party now a pale shadow of what it used to be, which left may voters with only the choice of two other minority parties who have not got any chance of getting anything like 411 seats and forming a government.
A national result as bad as that in Wigan where one party has sixty odd seats out of 75 seats on the local Council which has resulted in apathy wth little or nothing being done to improve the lives of its residents.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 13:56
Last edited by Owd Codger: 1st Aug 2024 at 14:05:58


Hello Fisrt Mate / I did not mean it to come across the way it did , but after studying a hell of a lot of my family from the 1800s i found that they struggled , as for the latter my own parents really had it very hard and rough but they did not rely on handouts and brought the four of us well , it was as my father used to say just roll up your sleeves and get on wi it !!! We had scant money ,we had no holidays as for abroad ( were was that) I know things have gone up but surely hasn't that always been the case first mate ??? AS for that heating allowance we managed befroe it was brought in i think the UKRAINE WAR was the maim culprit if my memory is right .we did not get that payment before did we ?? My good lady points out that the heating allowance was brought in ,in 1997 for people over 65 ,by Gordon Brown (chancellor) subject to certain measure's . All i'm saying that i have worked from leaving school at the ripe age of 14 yrs 360 days (christmas leaver) Had varoius jobs hard and some soft but mainly grafting o don't like things going up regulary but there is not much we can do about it is there ??? Again roll up sleeves and get stuck in !!!!!
G.B.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 14:40


Owdcodger.
In case its slipped your mind the first past the post system has been used for years!
The tories have been in power for the last 14 years using the same system!
They have now been condemned and removed from power, and quite righly so in the British publics opinion. Deal with it.
Ive never seen a post of your's complaining about the tories using the same system for the last 14 years?
Maybe its my eyesight what is failing.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 15:04
Cheshire Cat
The first past the post system was also the system used in many other countries until they decided that it was not right and before you say anything about me not saying anything during the i4 years of the Tories, it is only when you see what happen in our recent election that many people incuding myself came to realise that the system left a lot to be desired when a party can get 411 seats out of 650 with only 37% of the electorate voting for them.
It you are happy with the present system fair enough, but show respect for thousands of voters who are not and want change!
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 15:54


If you want change, do something about it. Move to another country!
This is our country ( allegedly!) and the powers that be ( the people ) will decide who to vote for under the present rules that are applied.
Why in your opinion has it suddenly become unfair? Also Ive only heard you moan about the present criteria, nobody else?
I'm very happy with the present system, I was happy with the system when the tories got voted in ( although I wish they hadn't ) but I dealt with it and got over it. I suggest you do the same
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 17:12

Cheshire Puss
AND
There was a referendum in this country in 2011 asking the British people if they wanted PR or just keep the present voting system, and they voted overwhelmingly to keep the present system
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 17:17


Try telling that to owdcodger!
According to him there are "thousands of voters who want change"!
A bitter loser, possibly?
Obviously, there are millions of voters who are extremely happy with the present system and, do not want change. Myself included.
I did not vote for the present government, but I was quite happy to accept the voting rules & regulations laid out under the present system
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 18:23


Ignore her...I do.,The Turds mate.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 19:01
Cheshire Cat
I am not a bitter loser as you put it as I did not vote for any of the main parties and like I said earlier, you need to show a bit of respect for other peoples opinions even if they do not match youir own.
As for the referendum of 13 years ago, if one was held again, who is to know if the result would still be the same again after the farce that took place in the recent election.
In 2016 people voted to come out of the EU, but many like no doubt yourself now want us to rejoin the EU and that is only after only eight years.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 21:45


Owdcodger, please get your facts right!
I voted to remain in the EU. I was a staunch remainer.
My opinion has not changed even to this day. And, It never will.
I hope that clears this up for you.
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 22:23

he cant get anything right cheshire .
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 23:47
Hello, its midnight drinking time again!
Replied: 1st Aug 2024 at 23:55

you shud know sot .
Replied: 2nd Aug 2024 at 01:09

Broady had a good name for whups the "midnight moron" very apt
Replied: 2nd Aug 2024 at 06:50
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