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Kym Marsh - Strictly Come Dancing

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

"Kym Marsh has been announced as the second contestant to be taking part in this year's Strictly Come Dancing"



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Started: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:01

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

Don't watch it so don't care

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

She is from Ashton-in-Makerfield

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:15

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4953) 

Here ,here PeterP, Never have and never will i could not stand Bruce Forsythe in anything .GB

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:18

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

TTS not bothered if she was my next door neighbour Good luck to her but I for one will not be watching the show. A lot of these shows know who the winner is even before they start.

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 14:55

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

Misleading title: hardly any S&M features in it!

(only joking, have never seen it, so I could be quite wrong)

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 15:09

Posted by: Stardelta (10079)

I can understand someone not wanting to watch strictly, what I cant understand is why people want to tell you they wont be watching strictly and why they think anyone would be remotely interested in the fact

I am sure everyone would be thrilled if I was to list all the TV shows I don't watch!!

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 15:09

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Tommy Two Stroke, although brought up in Garswood, St.Helens, she's from Whiston.

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 17:58

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1516) 

Nowt but utter Tripe.

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 18:02

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

So she is not from Ashton in Makerfield ?

I wonder why they would have wanted to move from Whiston, to Garswood ?

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 18:04

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Yes. Garswood has always been part of Ashton in Makerfield.

Replied: 4th Aug 2022 at 19:29

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Oh I see, she was well known in Ashton

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 14:24

Posted by: Handsomeminer (1898)

They always say she,s from Wigan because it's the nearest big important town

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 14:55

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

Handsomeminer

That is true, and it is nowt to doo with borders, it is which is the nearest (((IMPORTANT))) town

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 15:00

Posted by: jo anne (34190) 

Very well said, Handsomeminer!

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 15:46

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Wigan? Important? That's funny!

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:07

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

I think we use these terms in such a way that the recipient of our communication will understand what we mean.

OK, I guess I am from Wigan, but that was just the first year of my life. Childhood memories: I grew up in Bryn.

If speaking to locals, I probably will say I am from Bryn.

In Cornwall, I would be more likely to tell people that I am from Wigan. If I said Bryn, there is a good chance they would think I meant somewhere in Wales.

In China, I told people that I was from Manchester: it is the nearest locator that I expect they will know of.

In Yorkshire, I say I am from Lancashire: it's all to do with meaning, is it not.

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:19
Last edited by ena malcup: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:21:17

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

I just tell the truth. If they've never heard of it, so be it. If they ask, I say "it's halfway between Liverpool and Manchester".

A few years ago, I bought an R1 engine off e-bay. The lad who sold it was from Rayleigh. He rang to ask where he was sending it to and, daft enough, I said "Wigan". To which he replied, "Where's that then"? So, back to the old "halfway between Liverpool and Manchester".
Over in Spain, the football mad lads have all heard of "Wigan Athletique"!, but they couldn't point it out on a map.

Kym Marsh, though, has never even lived in Wigan.

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:37

Posted by: retep1949 (862)

I thought she lived in Weatherfield.

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:43

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

I have said halfway between Liverpool and Manchester, but when I was in Yankland, and American folk like knowing where you come from, so you say 20 miles from Liverpool, and every American knows where you mean, and I think we all know why that is

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 21:47

Posted by: PeterP (9490)

TTS enlighten us why yanks know what is 20 miles from Liverpool If I am asked where do I live I say Ashton-in-Makerfield which is near either Wigan or Haydock park Racecourse which ever mood takes me

Replied: 5th Aug 2022 at 23:24

Posted by: peter israel (1295) 

i always say halfway between Liverpool and Manchester
The British Ambassador over here is called "Neil Wigan"

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 07:00

Posted by: jathbee (11366)

I find SCD very pleasant, light entertainment. I'm not an avid watcher but if I have nothing on my agenda I will quite happily watch it. I like Kym Marsh too. She's done well for herself and a Lancashire lass too boot.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 09:10

Posted by: retep1949 (862)

I too can take or leave Strictly but good luck to Kim Marsh

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 09:41

Posted by: fossil (7512)

I have only caught fleeting glimpses of SCD, but my wife likes it,and Kym Marsh is a bonny wench as they used to say.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 09:42

Posted by: jathbee (11366)

Bonny wenches apart The skills of some of these novice dancers are amazing and I know some of them have had some training in the past but nevertheless, I find their progress over the weeks is fantastic. Having said that, I have two left feet and no rhythm either.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 09:52

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Jathbee. Having been born in Merseyside and brought up in Merseyside, Kym Marsh is not and never has been, a "Lancashire Lass"!

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 10:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

PeterP said:

"TTS enlighten us why yanks know what is 20 miles from Liverpool"

It is all too doo with 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' because the Americans have a sweet tooth, and Liverpool was once host to the biggest sugar factory in the world (Tate & Lyle) and it made the world's best sugar, and that sugar was used in American Candy Bars, so all Americans are taught, from an early age, where the best sugar in the world comes from

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 11:25

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

"Bryn near Wigan" was a commonplace way of stating address when I was a kid.

That is how our business letterheads were styled.

Local collieries also. (There are some illustrations of this elsewhere on this site)

We even had been instructed in school to adopt this way of stating our address.

Then the post Office wrote to us and asked us not to do so in future. Around the same time, we had moved from Bryn to Ashton, so I never saw the preferred alternative. Post Office's instruction was to use the postal address that was displayed in local Post Office.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 14:44

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Bryn was the Gerard's estate, Bryn Park. The 'area' of Ashton in Makerfield which was close to Bryn Park adopted the name Bryn. It's Ashton in Makerfield really. Bryn is not a 'real place'. (now, it's a 'ward')

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 15:35

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (10160)

I remember it being Bamfurlong nr Wigan, and you wrote the nr Wigan, underneath the Bamfurlong, Westhoughton was nr Bolton, Golborne nr Warrington, I don't know where Ashton in Makerfield was near or should it have been 'nr' maybe it was 'nr' St Helens ?

Post codes sorted all that 'nr' nonsense out

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 15:36

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

tonker, yes but you have to acknowledge that the rest of the world does not share your peculiar notion of the meaning of the word 'real'.

It is a place, people acknowledge its physical existence. It is not virtual or fantasy.

It is a real place as far as the rest of the world is concerned, though obviously not to you in the strange reality you inhabit.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 15:56

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

That 'nr' business was all my arse. How can anywhere 'in' a place be regarded as 'nr'? Bolton, like St.Helens isn't a 'place', it's a borough. Westhoughton is 'in' that borough, not near it. Wigan is a place, a town, with that name, and always has been! (well, not 'always', but for yonks, laaaaike!)

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 16:00

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

Tha's still not cottoned on.

It is all to do with meaning, not with the status a place may have, such as town/locality/borough or whatever.

A meaning existing in the brain of sender evoking the appropriate meaning in brain of receiver of the communication.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 16:20

Posted by: Stardelta (10079)

Agreed!

If one is asked a question, one should endeavour to answer in a way it will be understood. Regardless of the geography and the semantics Bryn is indeed near Wigan and if it helps someone to understand the situation it is a perfectly acceptable answer.

But anyway..................lets not start adding common sense to the mix and confusing things even further.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 16:29
Last edited by Stardelta: 6th Aug 2022 at 16:32:21

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Try putting "Rag Brew" as your address, then arguing that it's a real place due to people calling it that!

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 19:07

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

It does not become not a real place just because of people maybe being unfamiliar with it.

Of course, you can if you wish, use the word 'real' with such an abstruse meaning. What you cannot do is command the rest of the world to also adopt your meaning.

And yes, colloquial/vernacular names are not appropriate in addresses, though nevertheless the postal service seems to take pride in successfully delivering in such cases.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 20:17

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Is Father Christmas real?
Is Coronation Street real?
Is Aliens real?

Ashton in Makerfield has been just that, fully mapped out, with borders, since William 1st ordered the domesday book in the 11th century.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 20:59

Posted by: ena malcup (1499) 

tonker, you can list things which are not real to inordinate lengths, it has no bearing whatsoever upon your proposition that places are not real because they do not satisfy some criteria which you are imposing and other people are not recognising.

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 21:19

Posted by: tonker (25516) 

Too many people in our area have a 'local' mentality.

"Where are you from"? ...... "Halfway House"!

Half-Baked bloddy house, more like!

Replied: 6th Aug 2022 at 21:34

 

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