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MPs more than one job??

Started by: GOLDEN BEAR (4449) 

Started: 9th Nov 2021 at 15:12

Posted by: First Mate (inactive)

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Started: 9th Nov 2021 at 15:12



I see you are speechless GB

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 15:16

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4449) 

HELLO FIRST MATE ,, The reason the page was blank i had just written a shed load then i don't know what happened it all vanished of my screen ,, ( the laptop almost went thro lounge window ) so i have tried again keen on your views FIRSTMATE ......GB

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 15:43

Posted by: sonlyme (3046)

It's always gone on by all parties and always will do.

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 16:40

Posted by: tonker (24609) 

Is having more than one job illegal?

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 19:17

Posted by: tomplum (8289) 

In the past, I've woked my day job and done ' homers' or 'foreigners' as we call them, Its the same thing, there's no crime in making a bit more by working, Its better than claiming benefit or robbing to meet the bills,
I know its a different world , an MP saying he/she can't pay the bills out of £90.000 a year but, the have big houses, big cars, kids at uni, second homes, maids and butlers to keep, it must be very frustrating that, The Company Store or the food bank don't allow them in, like they do me,

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 21:18

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

Up until relatively recent times, MP's pay was traditionally very low, and the MP's topped up their income with very generous 'expenses' allowances, (fiddles) they could claim for anything

And they did

A right little gravy train

But greed got the better of them, and they went too far, claining fro bird tables etc and the papers got hold off it, the greedy idiots had spoiled it for the rest of them

The MP's expenses scandal.

Some of them ended up in jail

So they 'upped' the MP's salary, but 'downed' the MP's expenses claims, and probably made them worse off for it ...........

Replied: 9th Nov 2021 at 23:03

Posted by: whups (7559) 

they are supposed to work for the people when they take office & no-one else . it names 10 tory members who are doin this & getting paid to ask questions on behalf of those that pay them . they shud be sacked .

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 00:02

Posted by: Pi Eta (28)

I consider £82,000 per year plus allowances plus expenses for back bench MP's to be a very hansom salary for a part time job. If the job was not part time they would not be able to take on company directorships, do after dinner speaking and various other on the side money making activities.

On a frivolous note all MP's should be paid government minimum rates without allowances, their expenses should be tightly controlled and no other outside involvements. This would bring them down to reality and make them realise how a lot of people in this country have to live today.

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 07:00

Posted by: Stardelta (8848)

If my wages were suddenly slashed and certain allowances and benefits removed my reply would be......."Reet! I am off, I am going to work for someone who values my worth, good luck finding a replacement"

I would imagine all our MPs would take a similar stance..........so where would that put us?

Or do you think everyone and anyone has got what it takes to do the job?

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 09:04

Posted by: whups (7559) 

i repeat THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO WORK FOR US . THEY GET A VERY HANSOME WAGE WITH PERKS LIKE SUBSIDISED FOOD & DRINK . they reckon that there is more beer supped in the house of commons than anywhere else on a daily basis . and if £82 ,000 with perks isnt good enough then good riddance i say .

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 10:29
Last edited by whups: 10th Nov 2021 at 10:33:41

Posted by: gaffer (6932) 

The first £26,000 of the MPs allowance goes on tax and national insurance.

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 19:54

Posted by: sonlyme (3046)

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good witch hunt gaffer.

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 22:04

Posted by: tomplum (8289) 

The full amount of my Pension goes on keeping me dry and starving

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 22:07

Posted by: sonlyme (3046)

Snap.Tom.

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 22:08

Posted by: whups (7559) 

you mean for them that pay it . remember david cameron calling jimmy carr then finding the nest egg his father planted "off shore" for him ? .

Replied: 10th Nov 2021 at 23:55

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4449) 

IF THESE GREEDY ***TARDS CANNOT LIVE OF £ 80 THOUSANDS PER YEAR THEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE JOB ,, I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE ALLOWED A SECOND JOB , WELL I FOR ONE WILL NEVER VOTE AGAIN IF I FOUND OUT MY MP HAD TWO JOBS .. UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL WHAT'S GOING ON , ALSO IT WAS NOT THAT LONG AGO SOME MPs WENT TO PRISON FOR SUCH SIMILAR MISDOINGS TIME THEY PUT THIS SHOWER IN PRISON ......... GB

Replied: 11th Nov 2021 at 15:25

Posted by: gasmon (71)

Has Nandy the Wigan MP got a second job ?

Replied: 11th Nov 2021 at 16:45

Posted by: whups (7559) 

and people forget that they rent out the 2nd home in london that,s paid for by us & pocket the money from it up to over a grand a week .

Replied: 11th Nov 2021 at 23:54

Posted by: broady (17570) 

So no Labour MP’s do that?

Replied: 12th Nov 2021 at 04:28

Posted by: whups (7559) 

the torys do it more than any other party & make it into a fine art . so tell us broady which labour politicians do this then .

Replied: 12th Nov 2021 at 23:57

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

"At least 15 MPs are letting homes and renting another on expenses"

"The MPs, of whom 13 are Conservatives and three are ministers, are claiming up to £22,920 a year for rent payments"



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Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 00:28
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 13th Nov 2021 at 01:00:00

Posted by: tonker (24609) 

"which labour politicians do this then" .

Martin Bond, Labour councillor, is a director of two or three companies which specialise in 1) providing work and housing to immigrants 2) supplies tolocal government organisations.

Shaun Woodward (ex Labour MP for St.Helens South) held several directorships and married into the wealthy Sainsburys family.

There's two for starters!

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 00:50

Posted by: whups (7559) 

there,s at least 10 tory mps doin it like mitchel ,cox.smith,grayling,garnier,cairns,edwards,hammond,davis,hayes & to top it off libdem leader ed davey . oh & i forgot tory steve brine . there,s 11 + a lib dem for starters .

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 01:43

Posted by: whups (7559) 

and there,s another doin it , the scot tory leader douglas ross who has refered himself to the standards committee ? .

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 11:59

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 12:32

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

They are all at it Whupsy

And yon mon, your mate, Kier Hardy, he has been doing a bit on the side too

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 12:34

Posted by: whups (7559) 

where,s your proof . doesnt it seem to be mainly torys that exploit the system & show a lack of disregard for the electorate ? .

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 13:45

Posted by: ena malcup (366)

Mostly, but not exclusively it seems.

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 14:04

Posted by: whups (7559) 

maybe not but mostly them .

Replied: 13th Nov 2021 at 14:14

Posted by: whups (7559) 

i see that there,s a "new addition" to the tory 2 jobs sleaze . nadhim zahwai who pocketed 1.3 million from oil company gulf keystone & never declared it because of a loophole in parliament ? . here,s 2 more grant shapps & lord snooty jabob rees-mogg . shapps got money from an airfields comsortium & used public money to lobby & block housing development on airstrips , no coinsidence that he owns a £100,000 airplane ? . rees mogg used his "off-shore" company to get £6 million in "loans" to refurbish his country home & paid hardly any tax on it ? . it,s ok for some in this tory sleze party .

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 12:30

Posted by: fossil (7013)


So no Labour MP’s do that?

broady,I have no doubt that Labour MP's have done it but I am positive not to the extent of Paterson and Cox!
I don't mind them doing paid and unpaid work if it benefits the community.but a limit has to be put on the amounts they can earn.

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 13:22

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

What about John (two jags) Prescott

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 14:14

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (4449) 

TTS . BEHAVE there is a difference in have two JAGS as to STEALING MILLIONS OF POUNDS from the taxpayer's , even i had two jags ,,,,,,,,,
GB

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 14:20

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (8705)

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 14:24

Posted by: broady (17570) 

Fossil,
Whether you pinch an apple or a Rolls Royce it is still stealing. From afar the things I read are a disgrace. The current government have no moral compass. The PM is a buffoon in both his appearance and his actions. It is a long time to the next election but sadly at this stage I see no credible opposition.

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 15:01

Posted by: tonker (24609) 

Well, Tomplum has got two sheds!

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 15:06

Posted by: Billinge Biker (1069) 

I' ve got 2 pensions.... So far.

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 16:04

Posted by: fossil (7013)

broady,no stealing involved as far as I know, but I think this government leads by a mile in the sleaze and corruption league!

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 19:20

Posted by: broady (17570) 

Fossil,
I wasn’t implying stealing. Another way to put it is whether the job pays a million or £25000 it is still a second job. I said many years ago on here that the Government should buy/ build accommodations where all the MP’s stop when in London. This stops all the fiddles with second homes etc. They should be given rail vouchers to stop this claiming seven trips but only voting three times. As I said above the current government have no moral compass.



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Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 19:51

Posted by: whups (7559) 

they take taxpayers money to fund a 2nd home then when it,s sold they pocket the money ? . why is that money not put back into the public coffers ? .

Replied: 15th Nov 2021 at 23:54

Posted by: whups (7559) 

here,s a good 1 . tory mp Natalie Elphicke says marcus rashford shud concentrate on doin his day job . A Tory MP who suggested Marcus Rashford should stick to the day job has a second job.
Natalie Elphicke earns around £86 an hour in her work outside Parliament as the chair of the New Homes Quality Board.
She was handed a one-off £12,000 in November 2020, and since January has been paid just under £700 per week for eight hours’ work, on top of her £81k job as an MP.The organisation exists to “promote a new code for housebuilding standards” and Ms Elphicke has spent around 500 hours on the job since she was appointed in May 2020.
Ms Elphicke is one of scores of MPs with work outside Parliament, a practice ministers insist brings a “richness” to Parliamentary experience.
But she is now in the spotlight because of comments she made about Marcus Rashford.

Replied: 16th Nov 2021 at 13:05

Posted by: gaffer (6932) 

MP’s are not legally employed. They qualify for payment and expenses as soon as they are elected. All payments are from the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority which is independent of Parliament.
I guess this arrangement leaves them free to take on second jobs. It’s then up to the electorate to decide who represents them at the next election.

Replied: 16th Nov 2021 at 14:18

Posted by: whups (7559) 

so your saying it,s alright then gaffer ? .

Replied: 16th Nov 2021 at 23:55

Posted by: gaffer (6932) 

Whups

If an MP looks after his constituency and has a second non lobbying job most of the voters would probably go along with it. If the opposite occurs the MP risks losing his seat at the next election.

Replied: 17th Nov 2021 at 10:09

Posted by: whups (7559) 

lets face it gaffer this lot are blatently exploiting the system to their own advantage . they get elected then pursue their own interests & forget about the people who put them there in the 1st place . the sooner we get shut of this lot the better .

Replied: 17th Nov 2021 at 11:31

 

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