The Norley That I Knew...
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...Was a million years ago. Miss Saxon taught us at Robert Lewis. Mick Bailey's dog, Rocky, often visited us in the playground. The travellin' actors came to perform Rumplestiltskin. Nigel Slater's Dad had a shop. And all the bonfire's on The Green lit up the autumn night...
The White Hunter sold shoelaces. John Hunt jumped from his bedroom window. And Mr Worthington lost his marbles. The West Ward Christmas Party brought us joy. Walter saw us across Ormskirk Road, and the winds of change were light years away.
The Norley that I knew has gone. The memories live on...
PS: And I lived at the other side of the tracks.
Started: 11th Feb 2013 at 22:32
jarvo i remember the white hunter but for the life of me i can not remember his name..... i have a lot of happy memories from the time i spent on norley hall we had not much money but we knew how to enjoy our selves . i remember the dads coming out to play cricket and foot ball with the kids . the estate used to be buzzing with kids but we had no lap tops or game boys to amuse us.. the hours i spent with my mates sat on the wall at the norley shops or we used to climb over the gate and sit at the back of the butchers shop loads of us .. we never caused any harm just had a natter a sly smoke and a..laugh i remember one of the lads we used to call him scooby as he was always singing scooby dooby doo is first name i can not remember now but his last name was cunliff he lived be hind the shops he had a brother Terry who had the nick name TART and a sister Margaret ..well one night we were all behind the butchers and scooby was climbing on the garage roofs that were behind the shops and they had asbestos roofs and he was jumping from one to another ..and as he was going along he was singing scooby dooby doo were are you and all at once we heard scooby dooby dooo were are yooooooooooooooooo arghhhhhhhhhhh well we all went running around to see what had happened and he was laid flat out on the floor of one of the garages ..he had gone straight through the roof . he did not harm himself thank fully. and he was just laid there with the wind knocked out of him.. we could do nothing but laugh when we knew he was all right.. we had some great laughs and there were some great characters.. happy days .. and jarvo i have just remembered who we knew as white hunter it was mr Jones. Sylvia Jones dad .. she married a character called Kenny Turton . he always wore a suit and dicki bow and we used to sing to him in the streets Kenny had a penny and he thaught he was rich and all he could buy was two hapenny chicks .. he was a gentle man though all ways said Hello to every one and asked how they were ..and funny enough he now lives in Dowhall Green not far from us .. we knew who our neighbours were and they would give you there last cup of sugar ..and beleive me we were asked many a time had we got a cup untill me dad gets paid on friday lol
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jarvo, Can you remember what Walter's last name was?
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i remember a chap called Walter who used to colect glasseS in the west ward but i can not think of his last name either fred ?
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Fred: Walter was the policeman who stood at the top of Norley Hall Avenue, near the chemists. He was a motorcycle officer and his job was to see all the kids from Enfield Street and our estate safely across the busy Ormskirk Road to school.
Rose: You're correct. He was also known as "Noddy" Jones. I think Lol used to collect glasses also.
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I know Scooby's brother, Harry. Smashin' lad.
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Thanks, jarvo,
my sentiments also about Norley 'back then' even though I lived at the top of Helvellyn Rd. Norley was great place as many of us will remember but it was the times also. The 1950's. I remember people talking about an incident where the police had marched a chap along Fleet Street to the station in Pem, AND...he was in handcuffs...!!!! a rare thing for those times.
Makes you wonder just what we have lost in order to have 'better' times today...
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jarvo if i am not mistaken Terry passed away A number of years ago ?.he was a nice lad as well .. was it a chap named Walter who used to collect glasses ?or am i mistaken
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Your stories from the past it is so nice to read them....
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 09:40
Good morning lizzi hope all is well ..at this presant moment i have 3 of the grand chilldren who have just been fed and watered. and are know playing with the play dough so for the rest of the day i will be picking it out of the carpet ..
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im sure scoobys name was anthony, marg now lives in spain
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Yes thats it walshy been racking my brains. thank you .. yes i know Marg lives in Spain i was talking to her on video chat on face book a month or so ago ... think she said she as been there about 6 years ..bet it is a bit warmer over there than it is on norley at this present moment in time ..
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i was talking to her over there, and that was about 3/4 years ago
i bet it is, but you did that much running around, as kids, you hardly felt the cold
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Rbiilly you are a good grandma.....I looked after both of mine just about from the beginning...mum and dad bought a house so they had to go back to work to pay the mortgage.......I really used to love "In The Night Garden"
With Derek Jacobi narrating.....Olivia is 7 now and Cameron is 9 I just don't know where the years have gone........
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Steven "Scooby" and Margaret were twins.
Rose: I can't seem to recall Walter.
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 10:44
it was when i started there in early seventys .. thaught his name was walter ..may be barry can remember him WERE ARE YOU WHIZZER WHEN YOU ARE NEEDED lol
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I loved living on norley x was it Walter mcnicholas who collected glasses? That was the only Walter I knew on norley. There was a lad we called yaya used to hang out of his bedroom window on Severn drive, he used to frighten me to death!
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rbilly, was the glass collector walter charnock he collected glasses in the west ward about that era.
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scooby.s name is antony cunliffe he use to play football for woodford youth club many moons ago with is mate chimp and john wood.not seen him for a couple of years .think he as moved from wigan.
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Anthony (scooby) cunliffe lives in Orrell.
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the lad who was always in the bedroom window was bernard brown. the white hunter was a hamill
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Thats right tommy, right at the bottom of severn drive
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His mam, ann,was a rum un, his brother used to go in the norley
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Bernard used to live near us in dorset close when we first moved to norley. and when the houses were being done up we were all moved out and in to other houses on norley .. Bernard used to frighten some of the kids who did not know him . he used to hang out the window and give folk a mouthful of abuse but he had certain learning difficulties .and on the odd ocasion he would make a bid for free dome and would run of down the street ..and Mary ann is mum used to shout at the top of her voice Bernard get back in this house but in a manner that would frighten a police horse if she told me to get back in the house i would have got back in the house.. the family used to keep themselves to them selves though never did any one any harm and the other memebers of the family the sister and one of the other brothers were nice ..and it is a small world only yesterday we were talking about Bernard as one of my freinds used to support him in a house he lived in..tommy the white hunter i knew was mr Jones and i think he lived on lamberhead road at one time.Stars not sure what is second name was i think his wife now i come to think about it also collected glasses at the same time
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People knew when mary ann had been in the shops
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HA HA walshy she certanley was a caracter..if she said jump you jumped lol like i say when they lived near us we never had any problems with them .. can i ask you walshy do you have relation called Glynis Walsh...?
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rbilly, walters wife was betty,or bet as he used to call her, and she also collected glasses in the west ward
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 16:50
Aye and who can forget Norley Hall in September.
Remember Norley Hall in September
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No rbilly
Im trying to think what Bernards brother was called who used to go in the norley and stand at the bar in the vault
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 16:59
Think it was Tommy or Thomas . walshy a big rotund chap. he also had another brother but i can not think of his name
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I don't think yaya was Bernard brown, I think his surname was Derbyshire? I'm gerrin confused now! I remember glenys Walsh, didn't she marry Kenny cornwell?
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 17:18
sounds like the same one stars i was only sweet 16 at the time and the old grey matter is some what greyer lol .. judy dont no anyone by that name ..and not sure who Glenys married think he came from ince some were ..she used to live with her grandama just down the road from me belting girl she was ..used to natter to her when i was on the bus going to work in a morning she is older than i am think she may be about 60 now some were around that age.. She had a brother Freddy .. think his lad played for united at one time and then he went to wigan local lad did good for himself
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Freddy passed away last year rose x I didn't know he was glenys brother?
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Does Glenys Walsh have a sister called Doeen, she was in my class at pem senior, Doreen definitley had a brother called Freddie.
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she did, sadly doreens not with us anymore
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dotty
I remember doreen, she worked in school meals, I used to see her when I worked for Wigan Metro. She was a lovely lady.
Replied: 12th Feb 2013 at 18:30
Rose; stars is right it was Walt Charnock, he always sat on the right hand side of the concert room by the doors with his wife. He was a slim bloke with white/gray hair and they both wore specs.
Judith; both Bernard Brown and the young man people called yaya lived near you on Avon rd and Severn drive.
Mary Ann Brown was a lovely lady and had to put up with a lot looking after Bernard, and didn’t get a lot of help from the authorities, she called a spade a spade,and he frightened the hell out of me too thanks to your Eric.
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Haha! Barrie I knew you'd turn up eventually! Our Eric had a nasty streak dint he? He frightened our Carole to death and we still laugh at it now! There was an entry in between our house and sheridans on Avon rd and Carole was in dining room on her own when she heard an eerie voice whispering Carole Carole, it was our Eric in entry talking through ventilation bricks!!
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Judith; ha ha thats your Eric to a tee, but me and dawber got him back once, we got him drunk in dawbers when we were about 15, we carried him to your house in Lamberhead rd, propped him up against the door pillar ,knocked and ran like hell, only to find ten minutes later he was still there so we had to face your Annie and tell the truth.......that we found him drunk on Norley hall ave ha ha ha. She found out at a later date. I still miss your mam to this day, she kept her eye on us lot, a great lady.
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Hahaha! The wrath of Annie x I miss her badly but I'm sure she's around! She was only 57 when she died and I'll be 57 in July - the magic age, once I get passed that I'll be reet! xx
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Bernard Browns brother was called John. So remember those days. Yes Rose I am Helens sister. Sorry for not responding earlier. I seem to remember someone called Suzy Wong but never knew if it was a real person or not.
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ya ya was a lad called alan darbyshire and he lived on severn drive at the bottom end, i think he got his nickname from his attempts to say "hiya".
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I knew it was darbyshire! Thanks farrie!
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speaking of carefree days when we were young,meself Peter Gilbert Walter Mcnicholas and Josie Foster decided in a wild impulsive way to visit a friend who had moved, so we walked it to Ormskirk !!! after an eternity we found his house and spent the afternoon playing .his dad was going to run us home in his car but after an unfortunate accident with a medicine ball and a prized collection of bird's eggs he chucked us out we set out to walk back and about halfway we called at a house to beg a drink of water,the kindly lady gave us a drink and after hearing of our plight gave us bus fare to get us home as it was getting late .when we finally got back all the neighbours were out scouring the streets for us ,as they did in those days when kids went missing,boy were we in bother that time
never allowed out the street for a week after that
great days great memories
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Peter Gilbert is another of my brothers!!
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farrie; Peter Gilbert is judyteens brother, ha ha I always said your Annie had a lot to put up with judith.
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I was no trouble! The other 7 were
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good lad was peter used to give him a lift with his paper round,sooner it was done sooner we could play out.peter came on holiday with us one year ,to Sunnyvale of course got a couple of photos of us there if only i knew how to upload um
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He lives in shevy now, finally moved from hindley green after about 40 years!! I used to like Sunnyvale
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half of Wigan used to like Sunnyvale judy
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The White Hunter was NOT a Hammill. It was Noddy Jones.
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The Norley I knew has long gone... just like the Wigan I knew.....
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Aww, Moodysue. Don't be wistful...
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hello alli got me thinking then who Helen was lol hope all is well with the family ...and you are right there was a girl called Suzy Wong ..they lived next door but one to us in Dorset Close . she had a brother called David and not sure if there was another sibling .their mum was a Prescot before marrage Lilly i think her name was. the chilldren were lovly .. The Prescots lived at the bottom of Dorset Close . Somerset Road big family of them ..i used to knock about with Sharrron think there was about 8 of them ..there dad was one of the blokes who used to play football and cricket with kids on the estate nice chap.as for the Walshes i think there was another sister called Carol as well . she used to go in the west ward . I am sorry judy i dont remember you ..did you have a sister norma ?. and another sisster i forgot her name who married a winstanley and lived behind norley shops .....
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buckley's, ruddy's, ropers, kings,murphy's, flemings,all lived near you rbilly
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they sure did david buckleys lived on the corner of summerset road..do you remember Florry she was lovely i remember when we were going to school in a morning and Florry used to say to us every day you had better hurry up school bells gone and we used to run like billy oh up Lamberhead Road and there would be no body ther e we were the first in the play ground lol the ruddys lived at the bottonm of doreset close in that part of somerset road next door to the Loyds. ropers lived in Lamberhead road We are still freinds with Alan ,,good lad kings lived a bit further down on the other side the Murphys lived in Dorset Close .they moved in to the House we used to live in before they did the houses up and they moved every one around ..and the Flemings lived behind the norley shops ,Christine used to knock around with us at one time when we used to go round the norley shops Eeeeee David they are blasts from the past.. there were the Malones who lived on the corner of our row i used to mate about with.Mary then there were the Mullins And the Beards and then us in 24 and the Cullens and then the Halliwells .. Mr Cullen used to take his bike every morning and go down to the YOYO and pick coal and be there most of the day and then come back and sell what he had picked to folk on the estate nice old chap he was.. were did you live on norley david do i know you ?
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Good old Avon Road Norley , seems such a long time since I lived there for sure .
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you know me but not from norley,i knew your mum and dad joan and eddie,live in bryn, now used to go in the oddies with pauline who lived next door to your daughter in wentworth,
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I remember a girl called Christine who lived on The Green, she went tyo St Marks. One day she ran to get the bus for school, tried to jump on as it moved away fell off and fractured her skull. Lynn Hurst also lived on The Green, and Marilyn Wogan. David Barker William Hammond Sandra Birchall, Brian Sherry, John and Graham Gibson, Paul Carney,(he gave me a black eye) Adamsons, Fairhurst, Carol Makinson was my best friend Heavens all those names.
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are you sure it wasn't john hammond eront, he lived down saddleback and was that girl christine smith
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William? had a cleft pallet and the christine lived in a corner house on the green cant remember the name of the road that went down parallel almost to helvellyn
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think it's her eront,she used to mate with a girl mamed dorothy lowe if i remember right, don't think john had a cleft pallet,mind you tetley bitter has pickled my brain, so the memory is a bit dim, still see david barker
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AHHHH Dave lol i know who you are know . how are you not seen you for ages.... I Remeber Marilyn Wogan eront my brother used to mate with her Brother Ian.. i always remember her mum she used to were a white glove on one of her hands .. and i remember thinking why does she have a glove on one hand and not the other .. think it was a false hand now i look back lol silly me . dont no the others on the Green eront i remember the Athertons and The Rathbones and the Sweenys they all lived in the same row
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i'm ok rbilly, hope you and jimmy are well do you still see christine?
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dont forget the cadmans, burkes, speakmans, derek knowles, ella wren
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Are Incers allowed to join in?
I worked with some rum uns in the seventies.
Jean Spellman and Frances Bithell, they'd have grown up on Norley in the 50's and 60's.
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i had an absolutely beautiful gf from norley,lived just off thorburn road,she dumped me when she found out i was from worsley mesnes.
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Whatever happened to Roy Hickey and Pey Higham?
The last I heard was that Pey Higham was working in an Israeli Kibbutz!
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Feal free pisolivadi .. i knew Jean Spellman she lived in Lamberhead road She has a couple of sisters there names escape me for the min ahh think one was joyce and bear with me i will think of the other one .. one of the girls Married Dennis Hilton from behind the Norley Shops eeeee what was her name could it have been Carole,, i also remember Frances Bithell not very well though .. OH i am loving this really taking me back THANKS for starting this jarvo. dont know any of those names you have just mentioned
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that was kath spelly
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yes that is the Girl walshy thanks for that
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your welcome
beltin thread
you couldnt find this info on google
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ha ha no may be not walshy.. i have emailed brian to asked if he will make it a sticky for a little while..
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brings back a lot of memories, its nice to have a thread like this, makes a nice change
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im suprised know one has mentioned the caddicks, grady's and powers
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Rose! You do remember me Judith Hutchinson yes I had a sister Norma and her twin Barbara, Barbara still lives on the green Norma passed in 2001 I have another sister Carole, 4 brothers but the 2 you might remember are Peter Gilbert and Eric Hutchinson. We have spoke on Facebook but I've just checked ad you've disappeared from my list!
May power was a force to be reckoned with! Jarvo pey higham died years ago he was a good mate of our Erics
Baker boy what was her name?
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77 posts and no nasty comments or falling out
Brilliant
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That's cos were norleyers!
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Walshie, I was saddened to hear that Doreen had died, how long ago was this. She married graham carney, he was an old neighbour of mine years ago.
I love this thread it is bringing back loads of memories.
Scoop, I wonder how many of our class mates are no longer with us.
Such a shame about Doreen.
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i guessing dotty, it was about 3/4 years ago, sadly Graham is no longer with us
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Remember Len Caddick and Eddie Power, they had their names on the backrest near the snooker table in the "West" and any strangers who dared to use those seats were given short shrift when they walked in Another "Backbencher" who used to sit with them often was Stan Burgess, known locally as "El Sober"
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Caddick from Helvelyn Rd is a member of WW..Bill Sayer,Bill Byron,Tommy Dolan,Dez O'neil,David Wright,Barbara Dawber,Gerry & Maureen Murphy,Anne Carr,Purcells,Gaskell twins,Robert Gaskell,Sandra Hughes..& lots more.
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even in the concert room, they had there "own/same" seats everytime they went in
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yes judy i do have you on face book but it is Norma i new more than any one she used to visit us when we lived in somerset road sorry to hear that she as passed away and i remember Barbara.. if i am not mistaken she was married to was it Len Winstanley..and was Norma married to his brother i sme how recall two sisters marrying two brothers ,, ui used to go to school with Sandra Winstanley there sister think they came of worsley hall though ..i remember the Gradys ..the Caddicks and the Poweres .Linda Power was a freind of my sisters they lived be hind the norley shops. and Kath Grady i know she was a freind of my sisters also.. i talk to Kath reguler .. on Fb. still as mad as a wasp .. . i am trying to think back on who lived in Dorset Close when we did .. starting from the bottom left side Puckerings not sure who lived next door to them mymemory fails me on that one .there was the Wongs the Jones not sure if they moved in after the Wongs The Athertons lived next door to us .. but there were 3 sets oF Athertons on norley at that time and none were related.. there were The Farleys and next door to them were the Makins.and the Doughertys not sure how to spell there name . the Browns and the Mcanes and the Bromlies.i remenber the Goughs but not sure which one they lived in could have been in the browns house after they moved out ..There was the Cromptons next door to them was the Wrens ,, think the Fletchers also lived in Dorset close after the Wrens.. not while we lived there though think we had moved in somerset road then ,,the Clarkes and the Harmers lived in the end house ..and then i think at the bottom of Dorset close were the Baynams .. The Gouildings moved in to the Harmers house after they moved out .. i am on A roll hear ha ha
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Judith; sad news about pey higham, his dad died young with a disease which only affected the males in the family so peter lived his life to the full. This is why threads like this are great so we know where friends have gone or if they have passed away.
I will put a list of names from norley on here soon but it will take me a while.
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Good luck with that Barrie! Rose our Barbara married two brothers!! Vernon winstanley then his brother Len [:o] my best friend at primary was Carole Barton, she lived next door to powers at bottom of Avon rd
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Ups sorry judy lol i knew there was some thing about two brothers .. i did not no many Behind the norley shops theThe Flemings .Dericote. Mcguires .. Cunlifs besides the one i have all ready said . dont remember Carol Barton judy oh wait a min did she have long blonde hair really longTHE Gregorys lived just down the road form us in the red brick houses i used to run errands for May .. and i always remember she had two sons and they were massive . when i say massive they were really Tall think they played rugby not sure if it was for wigan she used to run some pub or club some were in wigan i think . Going back to the west ward i rememberJimmy Brady he always sang a song at the end of the night RUBY dont take your love to town and was it Jimmy price forgot his first name
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No Carole had dark hair. I'm waiting for barries list then start adding to!
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Iam loving this. look how many people have veiwed it wish they had all commented as i bet we would know a lot of them lol .. i am going on the people i knew from around our area . and a few from near the green and hellvellin road i mated with a girl called Florence Burrows from when we were 6 and to this day we are still good freinds and that is over 51 years .i also remember the Quigleys from just of the Green big family they were Pauline is the one i know the best and the twins Paul and David.. different than chalk and cheese Paul was little and blonde and quite stocky were as david was reasionably taller than him with dark and i think he could have had curly hair .
There was also the Mays think there were about 4 lads in that family all big lads they lived in the row of houses that ran be hind the old folks hostell facing us not sure what street was called
think one of the lads was called jimmy
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one was jimmy, one mick, i think there was only 3 but i cant remember the other one, they went living in little thorburn road, if its the same family
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I'm loving this as well int it ironic that the person who started it is not a norleyer!! Where's Barrie with this list? I'm gonna start mine soon
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your right rbilly there was 4, the 2 above, kevinand the one i cant think of, he went in the west, always wore an overcoat
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jonny may was one of them . and mick and kevin and jimmy .. my jimmy seems to think there was another brother the lad who you are on about walshy who always wore an over coat dont think he was a well lad seem to remember he was in and out of hospital..
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i thought that was kevin, he used to in the west on weekend afternoons and pinch people cigs and pints while they where playing snooker
they used to call jonny, tom jones
unless the one im thinking about was jimmy
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jimmy, john, tommy, and kevin may,john and jimmy are twins,
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never knew mick,john and jimmy played rugby for st pats, i think chris joynt who was captain of saints is their nephew
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its tommy i dont remember, micks about 53/54
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tommy i think is the eldest used to work at rathbones, john and jimmy are a year older than me so they'll be 64,they had sisters but can't say i know them
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Here is a list of names of people I knew on norley hall avenue starting on the top.
Joe, kevin, and keith dawber, shelagh hitchen, alan linkman, jeff and david duckworth, george pool, mr jimmy & mrs emington and sons bob (merchant navy) & ross, jimmy was blind and had a golden lab. harry, & ray walls I think they had a sister christine. mr & mrs rimmer, terry, roy, frances, they had another son but I can't remember his name mr rimmer was on the committee at west ward. john dawber, alice kelly she was a cook either pem primary or pem boys, john (pedro) & allan derbyshire, allan played rugby for swinton, mr & mrs ralphson and sons keith & top man (joe ninety) dave, but don't ask him to sing, eddie & william higham, mr & mrs dainty & sons tony & barry, my family john & (nellie) ellen winrow and sons john, colin, ken, Ian & me barrie, mr & mrs arnold & sons jimmy but I can't remember the others name, jimmy played rugby for wigan, jim mcormack jim played rugby for wigan, oldham and swinton, sadly jim passed away in january. mr & mrs dowd, I can only remember two boys billy & martin, bernadete quinn, mr & mrs ashcroft & son david, mr & mrs derbyshire and three daughters carole, I think lynn can't remember the third.
I'm up to norley pub
ooh you are impatient judith
Edit I may be wrong on ray walls some one will know.
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Barrie: Dave was the other Rimmer. Great lad.
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John yer right it was Dave.
The Mays were Jimmy & Johnny (twins) Kevin, Michael and the sister was Eileen (not sure of the spelling) she married Jimmy Joint who worked a fosters motors, Standish, Chris Joint is their son.
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Barrie: Do you remember John Hunt?
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there was also dot, ethel and kath rimmer and there dad was dick rimmer
all 3 of the lads where into karate
a bit further down, where the walls, and then the clarks and the shaws
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wizz, john (pedro)derbyshire also played at swinton and also had an illustrious career at st cuthberts arlfc cracking footballer to was john,i also remember the swifts,bannisters,dawbers,wynns,quigleys,stevens,cooksons,burrows
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Small world rbilly my youngest is married to one of the Derricotts grandchildren. Who would have thought all those years ago.
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walshy; yes alan was known as uggy, and how could I forget Christine & Ray shaw,
I'm up to norley pub
Joe willis, eddie son, daughter I think shelagh, paul edwards, eric farrimond, bob blan, I think bobs sister's is name is carol, alan & colin burgess.
Now thorburn rd.
Betty & bill dawber, maureen dawber(dunne) david, & brian if he ever visits you in hospital, hide your chocolates. horrace hamill west ward doorman, jack & dolly barns dolly was a barmaid in the west ward, dianne thompson, mr & mrs peet, linda & keneth peet, mrs barton, marlene, frank, joyce, robin, & derek barton ( Dirk do you want a ride on my scooter), molly king, john (tash) king his sister I think her name is margaret, christine smith
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lets not forget the jones, ian was a good friend of mine
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barrie, and ken, keith, harry and linda walls and god knows how many where in the clark family
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The Quigleys had 13 children, I used to work with the eldest girl, At a sewing factory up Scholes. I was about 15, I think her name was Joyce.
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Devon close-Norma Thomas, bottom of thorburn June Tudor a lad called somebody dean? I'm not very good at this am I? Lol!
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Clifford!! Tony was his younger brother
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Thorburn rd continued
mrs hitchin, john, helen, mrs hitchen was a dinner lady at pem primary. peter (slider) & pat hewitt & carol hewitt, carol married my mate brian (dilly) bradley,peter was a hod carrier for my brothers, pat worked behind the bar in the west ward, Deborha jones, mr & mrs hunter, brenda, Ian, & brian.
next one of the best families to come off norley Joe & Ada Brown, alan, colin, & stuart all the family worked in there own sausage skin company in the old summer sales pit yard in long wall woods. mr & mrs parker, john, & ken, john had a norton dominator motorbike, mr & mrs kay, & grayham kay, mr & mrs sharrock, peter, I think one was alan and the other I can't remember, mr sharrock (les) was on the west ward committee, mr & mrs farrimond, julie, and I can't remember the boys name,
mr & mrs may, johnny, jimmy, kevin, & michael, Eileen, mr & mrs taylor, john & les were twins (wild boys).mr & mrs fell, desmond, julie, & marie, julie fell you broke my heart when you dumpt me, mr & mrs lee, ann, kevin, mr & mrs cook, mr cook was on the west ward committee, mr & mrs houghton, tony, susan, janette, tony is in the band rainbow cottage, mr & mrs jones, ann, irene, brian, I can't remember the other boy, mr & mrs bradley, david & my mate (dilly) brian, mr & mrs carter, keith carter, mr & mrs lusher, peter, malcolm,isobel,
wiltshire place
billy birchall he is drummer in the band winston, philip (pants) garvin, dennis whittle,
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Norma baldwin, Ashcroft s and the readys and the fords
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This is getting embarrassing now! Norma was my sister Jenny Jackson and her son Kelvin
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Cornwall place
peter higham, mrs mather, mary mather, mary has a brother who lives in Bolton but I can't remember hiis name, there were three girls who lived at the botom on the left hand side they went to thomas more school, anyone know them it's doing my head in.
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Rita and Linda houghton
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Did linda go out with a lad who had a triumph bonneville
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Errmm...don't know mrs Mather used to make clothes for me and our Carole. I used to think Mary was really attractive, she went out with Dave orrell (big honk) not sure if they got married I think they did?
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Lamberhead rd
mr & mrs brown they both worked for Lancashire united buses he drove and she was a conductor, they had a German shepherd dog, speakman twins Carol, I think the other was Susan, Len caddick and young len, can someone fill in the other kids,
Sid fallas, mr & mrs jones, clifford, robert, deborah, Ian.
Kings, Derek I think john, and jimmy I think. come on rose and judith.
Hunters White, Sylvia, and Kenneth Turton.
Now then who's next.....
ahh yes it's the Hutchie's
George (I deserve the george cross) Hutchinson, Annie (Don't mess wi me) Hutchinson, Judith (I always wanted to kiss Barrie Winrow) Hutchinson, Carole (I wish I was as old as our Judith so I could kiss him too) Hutchinson, Eric (I've kissed him loads of times when we were drunk) Hutchinson.
Gilbert are going to Avon rd.
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Other caddicks, christine, marg, pauline, cyril, eddie, eric , willy
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Barrie how did you know? lol! It's still a standing joke in our lot when people ask "who's the oldest Judith or Carole?" she hates it! Mickey daltons son Kevin moved next door to us! OMG! Never a dull moment! Alice Burke and her brood, Arthur and Martha atherton and their lot all girls Alice ainsworth and her son albert. Freddie Croston and his wife Ann lived next door to us with their kids Trevor and Joanne-Annie delivered Joanne! Christine whittle married one of the burkes. Tommy tickle! I went out with him for a very short spell!
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Christine married stey burke
The other joneses, where deb, shirley, susan, stey, stan, that werent his proper name, everyone called him that because he looked like stan laurel and daft cliff
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Somebody mentioned the road parallel to Helvellyn Road. Could it have been Thirlmere Road ?? The Green ran along the top and we used to have our bonfires on there. I grew up there and can still name everybody who lived down there....more or less !!! Buttermere Road along the bottom going down to the shops......happy days !!!!
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Is Robert Gaskell of Helvellyn Road a member of WW ??? I got my first kiss off him !!!! He used to live in the house at the bus stop.....second stop down from the terminus at the Green. Think he had a brother called John. I'm going back about 60 years now......long time !! We moved to Thirlmere Road when I was 6 and I'm 67 now so a loooong time ago !!! Lived there till I got married when I was 26 but my Mum & Dad lived there till they both died.
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judyteen, Mary and Honk did get married but later divorced. They had at least one child. Rob Mather as had the Butcher's shop near Billinge Rd for years
Wizzer think you should go to the docs seems to me you have the outset of early senility, your memory is bloody hopeless
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rio; I'm taking tablets for it ha ha, my wife say I'm hopeless at remembering things as well, I always say I remembered to say "I do" didn't I.
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Cherries I don't know if Robert Gaskell is a member of WW...funny you should mention him as I was chatting in Mesnes St last week and he stopped & gave me a kiss...Caddick is a member on WW
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Morning nana.......I'm pleased to hear Robert's still alive and kicking and still kissing women !!! As I said before he was the first boy who ever kissed me. We were playing round the corner from where I lived......a few of us.......only in our early teens....and he gave me a kiss. Course at that age I thought he was a cheeky so and so. It seems he still is. Would be nice if he is on here and read this.
I know Jimmy's on here.....we've chatted and e-mailed.
Thanks for letting me know......memories and all that !!! xx
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I used to mate and work at tupperware with Rita Haughton her sister Linda sadley died A few years ago .. i think her other sister was called Margaret .. and they have a brother called Alan they used to call him little murt lol i remember the Gallager sisters also.Honk went to live in Australia came back about 20 years ago could not settle and went back .. John Bankes lived oposite you Barry in the Houses leading up to the norley pub Also Tommy Malone and the Derbyshires lived on the end house be for the Steps that went down to the pub they moved there from Somerset road they had i think 4 girls i used to be freinds with one of the girls Carol think there was 3 of them she married Lesley Stevenson think he lived on the Green at one time i mated with Christine Whittle Judy and yes she di marry Steven Burke was talking to her FEW weks ago in the Enfeild labour club it was there Caroles 50 birthday party i was there with Carol Speakman and Janet Conway.. tell you who i was talking to as well not see him for years Graham Marsh used to call him Rocky ,, his brother married Pauline Whittle . Christine sister Roberet Gaskel lived next door to my freind Florence Burrows and we are still freinds after all these years over 50 years . .. who was the lady they called 2 gill lill Bary she used to go in the West Ward was Only a little lady think she used to live in the row of houses that were on the same side as the hostell I also remember Gergie Pool and his brother Ronni was a frend of my hubbys when they were younger .. Colin Burgess lived oposite the shops he was in my class at st Johns and i had a bad accident one of the walls at school fell over on him he was only young when it happened think we were in the Juniors at the time there was a lad who lived be hind the norley some were i think they called him dylan that was not his name just his nickname .. also there was another lad his name escapes me he has a pub on pemberton or he did have ? i also remeber Jimmy Dyke he lived on Lamberhead Road as a brother who used to be a ajokey Martine i think his name was .also Paul Rothwell he lived in Lamberhead Road as well he had a couple of brothers think one of them was Called Ian . they have or di have a plumbing business. .. ehh my finger is hurting with all this typing i keep remembering different names ..jarvo one of the girls you mentioned Frances Atherton she sadley passed Away a few years ago lovely girl she was the sister of my freinds Maxine AND Genette Atherton .... i remember playing murps in the middle of Dorset close with a lad they called chucky he was A Mackin froget his first name now think it was Charley.. they wer related to the Farleys who lived next door to them in Dorset Close .does any one remember the McCanne twins they were nice girls .. nana are you from norley?
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Rose: Builderboy is married to Barbara who is one of the twins.
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not seen them for years jarvo they lived near us on norley and went all through Pem girls with them Roy there brother was our best man and i have never forgiven him lol ,,
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Roy is alive and well.
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yes we see him he does a lot of walking.. he lost Marian that was so sad we all used to be great freinds .. we dont see much of Roy only when we bump in to him in asda..
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Cherries I must know you...I lived in the middle house in Borrowdale...my sister Kath & brothers John & Alan
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do i know you nana did you go to pemberton girls school?
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rbilly I went to St Marks...Kathleen went to Pemberton
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rbilly your friend Florence will know my family...she lived corner house in Helvelyn near the bus stop.
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Nana......we were playing in Borrowdale with Robert and a few others at the time I've been talking about. I lived in the middle of Thirlmere Road.....on the right as you turn up from Borrowdale where it bends and then carries on up. Depends how old you are, nana. I'm 67 so would you have lived there when I did ?? The Purcells lived in Borrowdale and the O'Learys lived on the corner house and Ronnie and John Simpkin lived on the other corner....other side of Borrowdale. In fact, my best friend then was Kathleen O'Leary who lived on the corner. Can't place anybody called Kath or John and Alan. Trying to think of the name of the family who lived in the first house on the right....they had lads I think...similar age to me.
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Nana.....getting mixed up....memory letting me down. They're called 'senior Moments' !!! The place I'm talking about is Rydal Walk that we went down to get to Helvellyn road. I remember now Borrowdale is other side of Helvellyn Road,isn't it ?? I did know a Jacqueline who lived in Borrowdale...not very well but we used to chat at the bus stop in Helvellyn Road. I remember your Mother if you're who I think you might be and are you about my age ?? If you are who I think you might be, I can see your Mother as plain as day !!! I don't think I knew your sister but the lads names ring a bell. If I knew your second name then, I would definitely know if you're who I think you might be.
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cherries i remember Kevin O'leary, Eric Simpkin and pat kelly from my teens.was Sid purcell a tall lad from that area too/
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Cherries I was Jacqueline Bentham...Byrons lived next door and Hughes the other side of us...my mum was Alice..Margaret Sherburn was my friend and Sandra Gore...I'm 67
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nana how old will Kathleen be like cherries says if we new your last name .. may help the old grey matter lol Florence did live in the corner house you are right.. DO you know the rest of the famiy ?
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Yes, kath, Sid was a tall lad but he was younger than me. He had an older brother who I think was older than me but not much.....think he was Derek. Kevin was Kathleen's brother but again younger than me and Eric simpkin was Ronnie (who was a woman !!) and John's son. Both the O'Leary's and the Simpkins lived on each corner of Thirlmere Road and Rydal Walk. You sound as if you might be younger than me. Did you know Jean Aspey.....she's 6 years younger than me...61. We lived next door to the Aspeys all the time we lived there......I'm still friendly with Norma (Jean's Mum) who's 86 now. Or did you know Sandra Ralphs....they lived next door but one to us and Sandra had that dress shop in Pemberton at the bottom of the alleyway from Fleet Street down into Pemberton. She had it for years.....don't know what it is now because we live in Hindley now so I've lost touch a bit with Pemberton but we go seeing Norma regularly.
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Nana......I knew you were Jacqueline bentham !!! I remember your Mum as if it was yesterday !!! My Mum and me used to chat to her at the bus stop.
Margaret Sherburn lived opposite us and I remember Sandra Gore from St.Johns.....we're all the same age.
Well...here goes....I was Dorothy Higham. don't know if you remember me but I was always at the bus stop either going to school or going out when we'd finished school. It's a small world !!!
I can't place a Florence though in Helvellyn and my friend, Freda used to live in one of those top houses till they moved to Billinge.
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do you mean the little odd shaped shop cherries that was on the corner the last time i went in that it was a shop that sold all sorts of haberdashary stuff mind you i am going back a lot of years used to go up stairs to it not a very big shop was it ..
going back to norley i am just having a little think and DOH just realised the places around norley are named after places towns and counties never gave it a thaught after all these years .. so that means i lived in Dorset and Somerset lol and Hellvellin was only a short walk away .. how lucky were we as kids did not have to go far to see the world did we lol..
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The ones behind the shops where named after rivers
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rbilly......it was an odd shaped shop and not so big and Sandra did sell all sorts but you didn't have to go upstairs only up a couple of steps if you wanted to try something on....it is years since she gave it up though.
Some of the roads were named after the Lake District...Thirlmere. Grasmere, Buttermere, Rydal...we lived in the Lake District and didn't know it then !!
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Dorothy Higham yes but can't picture you...can you picture me from my photo ?....All the streets were named after places in the Lake District...I don't remember the Burrows...we lived in Drummond Square before Borrowdale & Purcells & Gerrard Dawber lived next to us then & moved at same time to Norley when I was 7.
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nana.....just looked at your picture over your name and I can see your Mum in you. Can't really picture you. Are you on Facebook cos you'll see my photo on there as well as some when I got married...that might jog your memory though I'm a bit !!! bigger than I was then !!!1
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I'm on F/B but how do I find you ?
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I am also on face book cherries and nana send email to brian and if you like i will give you my name on there.. would be nice to put a name to a face ..
this is my last photo i had it taken for my Christmas cards ...
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rbilly
Now that's a real good photo. Who do I look for on F/B
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right my go now ,along with a few names previously mentioned i remembered, i lived in the select area of Avon Roadhere are a few names i recall obviously the Hutchinson/Gilbert clan Jezz and Jeff Glover,Geoff (Spider) Hitchen Frank Ainsworth and his sister Chubby Tudor ,the Oliver girls Mick Bailey and his sisters,and further down Meehans,Bartons,Evans ,Terry Haswell.and some off Medway Jennings Hewitts Maidens Greens Penmans Prices Alan (milky bar kid ) Hedley sister Gladys Marie and Carole Lowe Faheys
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...I've seen your photo rbilly from the WW get together but I don't know you...
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nana.......how've you got rid of your name on here ??? I don't really want mine on either
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nana.......how've you got rid of your name on here ??? I don't really want mine on either
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Click edit in the bottom left hand corner Cherries
Make that the right hand corner
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Doesn't work, dodger.......tried 3 times !!!!!
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Mine just worked.
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You've not got 'edit' in the right hand corner
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We all have edit in our own corner Cherries
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Cherries, you can only see your own "edit"
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cherries- i'm 61 and i was about 14 or 15 when we hung around with those lads. i remember being shocked opne day when kathleen O 'Leary leaned out of her bedroom window and tod us to go back to where we came from. she went to art school though didn't she and i remember seeing some of her work at Manchester when I was considering going there.i don't know any of the girls you mentioned.
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Oh I see, dodger.......thanks for that but it still doesn't work. What did you do to get rid ??
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kath......yea, Kathleen did go to Manchester doing Art I believe. I lost touch with her after that and don't know where she is now.
She was a bit cheeky telling you to go. Perhaps she thought she was a bit above you lot seeing she'd gone to Uni !!!!!!
I'm surprised you don't know Jean Aspey cos she's 61 and Sandra who had the shop.
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cherries if you send an email to ww care of brian else and ask him to forward it to me i will send email back with what i am known as on face book .
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rbilly.......have e-mailed Brian so will just have to wait till he gets it.
Look forward to chatting on F/Book.
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me to cherries what is it they say it's good to talk
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Rbilly Rita Houghtons older sister was Joan, sadly she died a few years ago, still see Rita she lives next door to my Mums house. Chucky's real name was Charley Mackin you are right. Was speaking to the McCann twins a few weeks ago. Sandras old shop is now a taxi place. Is the Florence u refer to married to our Jimmy?
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Just recalling how my family arrived in Wigan and how they came to live in norley. Mum was evacuated from Liverpool during the war to Southport, to a lovely family. After a couple of years she was put on a train. aged 7, heading in the direction of Wigan where her Mum and Dad knew some of her family were. They were all put in a house on Ormskirk Road at Pemberton, where Lamberhead Green Workingmens club is now. There was at least three families sharing the house, and from what I can gather big families. When the house was demolished they were all re-housed on the new estate. I never actually lived there but remember the good times as grandchildren do. What surprised me the most is how much I do remember and such good ones!!!
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evacuees had a hard time didn't they? my mum lived in Skem and she wanted an evacuee from Liverpool but she wasn't allowed. I think she thought it was like having a pet!
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They did find it hard. They were strangers from another County in those days..Still trying to learn the logos {with daughters help}Time does creep up on you.{:}
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Still failed the logos. I apologise..
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yes alli she is married to jimmy we have all been freinds for a long time .. and yes it was Joan Haughton you are rite .. i was speaking to Rita a few months ago we went to Pemberton and we bumped in to her . she as not changed one bit either .... do you still have both your parents Ali.. i lost both of mine my dad 28 years ago he was 52 and my mum 13 years ago she was 62.. so in my minds eyes they will be for ever young .. dad was younger that i am now.. miss them both so much[V
io have some great memories though of norley hall .. and i remember your gran Mrs Farley i used to run erronds for her .. i remember the first time she asked me she stood at the door and shouted to me Hay girl in her scouse voice lol well i had never heard an accent like that before i thaught it was lovely lol she was a nice lady .... how is you Charley and Hughy doing always remember your Charley he was only little was'nt he just like your gran.and Mr and Mrs Mackin lovely People . was it mr Makin and your Gran who were Brother and sister..? as for the logos ali just click on them. after you have finished typing just put your arrow on the faces and click on it and it will put it to were ever you have the flashing line after you have done writing | and then
sesy lol
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hello cherries i have replied to your email
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rbilly is right ali. keep practicing
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Hi rbilly Dad died 10 years ago and Mum unexpectedly last July. Charlie has also now passed but Hughie still going strong living in Chorley. It was my Grandma and Johnny Mackin that were brother and sister. We are all still living in Pemberton/Orrell area, 17 children between us and up to now 14 grandchildren. All are well.How are your brothers and sister doing? Hope they are all well.
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so sorrry to hear about your mum and dad ali and also Charley... we are all fine thank you Linda lives in Aspull .Steven lives..Newtown area .. and Terence and my self live in Bryn we have between us 9 chilldren and i have 5 grand chilldren .. and they are my world love them all to bits .. are you on fb ali ? how is your ellen and not sure but did you have any more siblings it is many moons since i last see any of you and the old grey matter is some what dimmer lol..
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Jack and May Gregory lived on that manor somewhere. I can't recall the name of the street. My mum used to run a catalogue in the 1960's (John Myers and Grattan)and my dad used to go up and collect the "club money" every Sunday morning from a Mrs Myatt. The name Nellie or Elizabeth comes to mind, she lived just around the corner from May and Jack. My dad used to take me up there for a ride and then we would visit May and Jack at the same time. Jack was my dads cousin he was the steward at SLG Labour club amongst others. Anyone remember them? Brian (their son) died about eight years ago. He was only early 50's. Great chap he was. Their other son, Alan, has a pub in Cheshire.
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The Gregory's lived on The Green, Brian hadn't been back in Wigan long when he died. Alan had a pub in Cheshire called the Norley last I heard.
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Alan use to have the station pub at orrell, years ago
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Just reading through brought back so many names I recall when living on Avon Road , All older now but still have memories of playing footy with teh Big Lads un long walks to the woods with Mr Grady and all the kids in toe
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We went to live on norley in 1950 , I would be about 6 or 7 . A lot of the houses were just being built at the top end. The building sights were a haven for us kids to play. Piles of sand and bricks to make dens. At the bottom of helvellyn rd there used to be a watchman with only one hand, and a hook where his hand should have been. He used to chase after us waving his hook at us if he caught us playing in the half built houses. I was terrified of him, I would run like hell across The Green as fast as my little fat legs would go.
To this day I get uneasy if I see a hooked hand. 33 years ago when I married my husband at Chorley registry office I nearly died when I saw that the registrar had a big hook instead of a hand.
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granada i used to run errands for may .. she lived in the street oposite to us that ran down to Hellvelly road it wa'snt the green doger. sorry to diasagre with you it was in the same street that the Walshes lived in across the road practicaly.. loved going to the shop for her as she used to treat me ha ha thripence i think i used to get my memeory fails me a little was it grasmeare road? was it not mrs May who lived around the corner from them? i have mentioned them on the thread some were i remember the lads great big tall lads . did one or the both of the lads play rugby ?gazzer Cath was only on about her dad on fb a couple of weeks ago she said her dad used to be like the pied piper all the kids folowing him lol... i am loving this thread look forward to loging on to see if any one else as made a comment i see a lot of people have veiwed wish they would have all made comment there must be a few more norley hallers looking in on us ...
if you are Heloooooooooooooooooooo
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Hi rbilly, the woman you were referring to as two gill lil was Lily Gaskel, she had two daughters, Christine who I think would be around your age and Lyne who was about my age or a year older.I see Dennis Hughes (Mackin)now and again when he brings his Evertonian mates to my local when they are playing Wigan or Bolton, they were here yesterday enroute to Oldham, two coach loads full, great crack. He says that his mum Kathleen is always reminising about the days on Norley and never fails to talk about mum and dad and what a lovely people they were.
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You're right Rbilly, it was Grasmere road, I don't know where I got The Green from.
did your mate Florence had 2 sisters, Angela and Brenda?
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Did Florrie Ball come off Norley?
She died some years ago. Her husband Tommy sadly died last year.
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Never heard of her jarvo sorry .. yes dodger she does have a sister Angela think she is the eldest she also as a sister Magaret, May . Pat deceased and June and two brothers Tony and Phillip no sister called Mary though.. linda lou as both you and i know they were lovely people and i miss them so much not seen Dennis hughes since he was alittle lad nor John his brother .. and kathleen the last i see of her was at mums Funeral .. and yes you are right it was Gaskel think Christine is a little bit older than me though.. .. dodger easy mistake to make as the houses start at the corner of the green dont they we will let you of
.. the only Florrie i knew on norley was related to The Buckleys never new her last name .. on waite a min think there were some balls who lived around the Hellvellyn road area think there were a big family of lads No i got it wrong it is The Halls i remember David i think the lads name is who i new .. think one of his brothers worked with my mum when she worked at Industrial reels many moons ago soz going of on a tangent lol dont mind me .... just come to mind as well some other norley hallers The Quins .. 3 lads Barry. Ian Keiron.. and they had a sister Janet .. also the Lindley family and the Crooks ..Also in Somerset Road lived Thomas Loyd or Tosh as they called him.. and The Burgesses Sadley they had A daughter who got killed in a motor bike Accident many many years ago...
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Thanks Rose it was the Gallagher sisters, they have a brother named Brian, and I had forgotten about John Banks, he has a older brother called Dennis.
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Mr & Mrs halliwell, mary & john & their auntie jane lived with them, they moved to the green and the buckleys moved in, I can only remember martin, mr & mrs lion, vinnie, anyone know the youngest son, mr & mrs murphy, brian & a shed more, mr & mr ward, roy, joe, peter, and bernard, mr ward (peter) was a west ward committee man, mrs hallsall, billy, jean, they had a young sister who was killed coming away from the ice cream van, can anyone remember her name she was a beautiful looking girl, mr & mrs dyke, jimmy & martin, mr dyke (bob) was a west ward committee man, jimmy is a singer in the band copper kettle, and martin left school and became a jockey, mr & mrs penman, billy & a sister can anyone name her, billy was handicapped an used to drive the kids around in his blue invacar, roland bradshaw, mr & mrs gore, my mate alan, and I can’t remember his two sisters names, they’ll kill me, mr gore (cliff) was on the west ward committee.
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barry the murphys moved in to our house in dorset close when they did the houses up..the ones i remember are irene she married John Banks . the muphys were Frank. Ted .malcom.irene. terry .tony, stephen ,sheila, and julie , and dot . Brian maried Sharon Prescot. the lions were Vinny Paul and Keith there were some girls but i can not remember there names . Paul married Ann Cavill one of the twins out of somerset road Albert Cavill WAS HER BROTHER. just been told by our Steven that Paul died... last year One of the Murphys died Terry it was just found out two of the lyon girls names Helen .Teresa .. but there was another sister and i can not remember her name she was one of the oldest
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The wards had a sister was it joyce? .. Martine Dyke did become a jocky but been out of that game years .. Jimmy Dyke lives near me know at Bryn. still sings as well with a couple of bands there were the Ropers as well in Lamberheard road.. and the Browns and the Cadmens we all remember vinny dont we became a comedian and then ran a pub think he hit the skids for a short time but i do beleive he as braught his self back up again or is bringing is self up again he was a nice lad was Vinny used to have many a laugh with him
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Hi Rose, not sure now if the youngest Lyons girl was Theresa, think it may have been Tracy.Keith Lyons was always known as Harry, don't know why. Mr Murphy "Ted" was a great baker,always baked for for England and his cakes were brill,Mrs Murphy was Rene, there was also a relation who lived on top Somerset Road, her name is Anne,"could it have been Corcoran" think she was the sister of Mr Murphy.Next door to the Lyons lived the Doughteys,"don't think that I have spelt that right" again a big family, correct me if I have missed anyone out. Kevin, Lorraine, Gillian, Dorcas, Wendy, June.
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Think Vinnie Cadman was on TV last year on a reality show
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There was an Anthony Doughtey dont remember a Kev linda i remeber Annn Corcoran she used to be great mates with Marion Fletcher,, dont no what relation she was to the Murphys though? she lived near Hilda Kenyon and Margaret Marney from what i can remember. across the road from the Quins
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hi wizzerwin
i am billy &jean penmans daughter billy dident have one sister he has 4 sisters and one brother he is very independant and doing well who are you
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yes he was rio think he lives on marsh green now
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hello latics click on whizzerwin name and it will tell you who he is ....
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what was wizzerwins brother's name, was it sinna ? or something like that.
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Wizzerwins brothers are John Colin Ken and Ian. The ward sister was Rita, she lived next door but one to us on lamberhead rd. Mr bob dyke married mrs burgess didn't he? Roland bradshaws sister is my daughter danielles mother in law!! I remember all the above names, was it cavils where we went to buy flowers out of their garden?
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hello judy mr Cavil did used to sell flowers out of his garden Dallias and Crisanths he grew some lovely ones but i always remember they used to be full of ear wiggs used to have to give them a good shake before we put them in the vase.. yes it was Rita Ward. and Mr Dyke did marry mrs Burgess you are right i had forgot about that .. she was only a tiny little lady wer'nt she
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rbilly and cherries...good on yer...
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fantastic thread! happy memories,brilliant reading all the names from our childhood im one of the speakmans from somerset rd ive managed to keep in touch with quite a few of my childhood friends !!
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aw reet carol
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Jury teen,I lived next door but two from the Bradshaws in Troutbeck Rise, which one of the girls is your daughters mother in law
Will you give her my regards. I haven't seen any of them for years, my name was Dorothy Holden.
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Teresa. I'll pass your regards on Dorothy
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thesurgeon; Ian was known as sinner
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Scafell drive
Mr & mrs mulqueeny, peter, ste, mr mulqueeny (peter) was a west ward committee man, mrs M, worked behind the bar in the west with my mother and me in the seventies, peter is a friend of mine and he is/was a policeman, great family, come on stemul I know you pete’s going to kill me so fill us in with the rest of your lot. Another of my mates Alan Gaskell (gassy, he still think’s he’s capt marvel at the age of 58),
Helvellyn rd
Margaret Johnson, a childhood sweetheart,
The green
Steven garbutt, Brian (baw face) & Ann Yates, Margaret Atherton,
Honister rd or it may have been troutbeck rise the queen of the district nurses (evening service) Aileen O'loughlin (wheal)
Sommerset rd
Ste & frank burke, joe & dave bithell, albert & aneta cavill (twins) they have a older brother any one know is name,
Dorset close
Mr & mrs mcann, eric, roy, Christine, Barbara & Margaret (twins) the gorgeous Betty & I think there was another girl, Mr & Mr Feeley, Steve, that’s the man who’s got my body and I want it back, and someone called Rose (ha ha), is there any more of you lot Rose.
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I'm cruising now
Levens place/Ribble drive
Mr & mrs peet, brian (I just love to play the drums) & eric, my mum and dads best friends, uncle John & auntie Grace Melling, jacky,norma & george (podge) jacky played rugby for warrington, mr & mrs shepherd, my mate bob, he worked behind the bar in the west ward with me, mr & mrs brown, my mate Stephen, John, keith (Charlie) & Norma Holden, Jane, young keith, I used to baby sit for norma & keith and take their doberman for walks, both keith’s played for wigan rugby, Robert & keith parks,
Buttermere
Mr & mrs Sedgwick, lilian, can any one remember a tall slim committee man with black, back combed hair, who had two girls with long red hair he always called the bingo. I think the youngest married brian peet.
Ambleside
My dads mate councillor and ex mayor Ernie Maddox & Nellie Maddox.
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Two more Feeleys, Linda and Terence
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Barrie, Joe & Dave Bithell had a sister named Pat(Trish) I seem to remember their mum came from darn sarf
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I'm still on medication rio.
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Barry there are two more of the Feeley clan Linda and Terence lol and the Burkes there is Joe Burke .Sylvia Burke and Rose mary Burke. or it could be Rose ann WAS it Billy Cavill ? The Mcanes lad Colin but they used to call him Martin and there was another girl Brenda?. there was also the Baynams .coming down norley hall avenue lived Vic moss married one of the Athertons of the Green Lilly . also Roy Martland din't he live at the Top or was that Joyce his sister.. does any one remember Dirty Dick he used to sit on the Corner of the bungalows at School Way for the life of me i do not know why they called him that. do you rembere .. Eric And Janet Rolands they used to go in the West Ward were good freinds of my mum and dad they lived oposite pem girls school not exaxtley norley but next door .. there was also the Baxtors if my memory serves me right they lived in Lamberhead Road I remember Joe and John but can not think of any of the otheres ?
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The Mackins lived on norley just of grasmere road i think Margaret. Pat .Charley, Robert.Tony sadley he passed away a few years Ago and Jimmy .. Jimmy is A good freind of oure's he married Florence Burrows out of Helvellyn she is one of my Oldest freinds we have known one another over 50 years .
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Rose, was good mates with Vic Moss and Tony Mackin and both of them, even thought they were no angels were taken from this planet much to soon
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Nancy Baxter was johns sister, sadly she's passed. Didn't Pete mulqueeny marry June Tudor? Eric peet married Ruth cherrington from Severn drive. Anybody remember Anita and Denise Taylor? The lady on Severn drive who ran tony christies fan club. Diane Harris from Severn drive.
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Not heard a mention of Freddy Stevens who used to collect subs for the T&G Union in the Wild West. In 1970 subs were 2/6 a week.
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Did he live behind shops? Humber place maybe? Grey matters working overtime now!
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yes judy Pete did marry Peter Mulqueenny .. but they no longer to gether split up many moons ago she used to work in the west ward when i did as we were known at the time bottle snatchers
and when i first started i used to spend my wages buying bottles that i had taken that were still full ha ha silly me
.. Barry there are so many people of norley who were my age or around my age give or take a few years that have passed away .. so sad rio i remember Freddy Stevens didn' he live behind norley shops some were .. i always remember him for his silver streak wasn't it across one eye brow across his fringe on one side .
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Ha ha judy great minds
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Rose.....When I lived on Norley till 1971, did Freddy Stevens not live with the rest of his family in Helvellyn Road....a few houses down from the top near the bus terminus. There were a few brothers of them and was Freddy a Ted. I can remember him dancing.....jiving..... in the West Ward when they had club nights on a Thursday night.....brilliant dancer !! Sometimes fights used to break out.....my mother did her nut cos I went there but they were good nights then. Or am I on the wrong Freddy but this one had the silver streak that you mention. He used to sit with me on the last bus coming home sometimes.....he was ok was Freddy. Now whether they moved behind the shops, I don't know but I'm pretty sure he lived at one time in Helvellyn Road.
Replied: 22nd Feb 2013 at 14:43
Correct Cherries, Freddie was brought up in Helvellyn, he was one of five brothers.
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The Stevens did live on Helvellyn road near where the bus turned round. Freddie had a silver streak and he had one blue eye and one brown eye. His brother Ray was a very good looking lad.yes Freddie was a good bopper, he used to go to the Albion when I did.
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An update for Wizzer on the McCann clan members:-
Eric and Beatrice were the parents of Eric, Roy, Christine, Susan, Elizabeth, the twins Barb and Marg (my wife being Barb), Martin and Brenda.
Both parents have passed away - the remainder are alive and well.
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I don't remember Susan
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i have just seen a face from the past Eddy Willis not seen him in years and years. he as two sisters from what i can remember one of them is Ann .. i have in my mind they were twins..?may be getting them mixed up with some one else Eddy married a girl who i remember from school think her name was Sandra Birchall ? that name seems to stick in my mind.? his older sister was married to Terry Berry .. Not sure were the Willisis lived but i remeber there mum and dad from the west ward i used to like him .. always used to be pulling my leg...
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rbilly,
The Mackins were next door but one neighbours of ours, they lived at 70 Helvellyn Road. A lovely family, especially the girls, Pat and Margaret. I met Jimmy and Charlie many years ago in Pem when I was on holiday. We had so much fun back in the 50's. Their parents were so honest and straight. A better family could not be found anywhere.
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dotty......going back to Freddy Stevens. You said he used to go to the Albion when you did. Where was The Albion......I thought I knew most of the nightspots at that time but can't recall one called the Albion.
Rose....is the Terry Berry you talked about further back, the Terry Berry who lived at the top of Thirlmere
Road....think he had a brother called Cliff.
Do you know Fred, I can't recall the Mackins for the life of me. Are they our age ??
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cherries,
yes and no,
Margaret and Charlie were close to my age, Pat was a year or so younger, and all the others were going down in age from us.
I loved the girls (naturally) and Tony (Curly) was one of my favourites. So sad about him.
I was so pleased to see Jimmy making something of himself, I believe he was in IT, and I am hopeful for all our old playmates from the 50's.
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and, jarvo,
The Norley that I knew has gone. The memories live on...
so true..
Replied: 22nd Feb 2013 at 19:59
dont no cherries i only know terry he used to have the pub at marus bridge with his wife ,, thinking now i think her name may be Sheila some one will put us right the Mackins are all different ages from 57 upwards Jimmy is the youngest .. there were 2 girls and 4 lads think marg and pat will be in there early to middle 60 s
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There were 4 Willis's, Sheila, Josie, twins Eddie and Ann, Sheila married Terry Berry from Thilmere road.
Last time I saw Terry was when he was in the Ben Johnson.
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Terry Berry died a couple of years ago
Remember Chucky Mackin coming up to the West on a kids bike, after a pint he went out to ride home, only to come back into the club stating the immortal line "Somedys pinched me f***in Chopper"
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ha ha he was a rum lad was chucky lol was he at one time a jocky ?... Fred, Jimmy not in IT not been for years... i thaught the Mackins lived around the corner from Helvelyn i will ring Florence to morrow and find out lol... sorry to say Margaret and Charley do not have good health at this moment in time ..
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Didn't Judy markey marry a mackin?
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Cherries, the Albion used to be facing Jem Lowes (The dog and partridge)
At the top of Pem. I think it was white street, I spent a lot of happy hours there boppin the night away , it would be the late fifties early sixties.
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Thanks Phil I can't visualise the two youngest also Susan and Elizabeth, but I must have seen them walking past our house. Beatrice must have been a stunning looking woman to have so many good looking kids.
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Barrie Elizabeth was always called Betty but I can't for the life of me remember Susan and I was best mates with Barbara and Margaret yeah they were all good looking weren't they?
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Thanks Judith silly me
Didn't Betty marry Bernard Moore.
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Ooooo! I remember her going out with him but not sure if she married him?
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I can remember Christine going out with a lad I think his name was Derek, he was a great dude he had a lotus élan. He was a Plummer on the winstanley building site when I worked there.
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Yeah they got married I think, he was a scouser. They bought a cottage near mels mum and dad in upholland
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Yeah that's right Judith he was a scouser
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terry berry who died came from seven drive near the club i think is brother lived at the top of the green cliff who played for swinton
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his son also cliff played played for wigan he had a sister called leslie
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Judy SUSAN was a little older than BETTY FROM WHAT I CAN REMEBER HER SHE WAS QUIET TALL and Betty did marry Bessy AND Tony Moores lad they used to have the West Ward when i worked there bottle snatching lol and Judy Marki married Rob Mackin . but i think they split up a long time ago . Christine Mcan had a house or cottage facing Orell water park at one time..
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Good old days, Terry Berry lived at the top of Thilmere road with Cliff and the family before he married Sheila, and she lived on the corner of Norley Hall Ave and Severn Drive.
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Do you know I still don't remember the Albion !!! and late fifties/early sixties I would have been 15/16 onwards. Sounds as if I was missing out there.....loved to watch Freddie Stevens bop !!! He was brilliant.
Thanks for telling me. xx
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Cherries, a former thread about the Albion, I have bumped it up for you.on general.
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Thanks for that but I still don't remember it !!!! Mind you I started courting just before I was 15 and he was a lad from Wigan so I spent most of my time there. I went out with him for about 5 years so that's probably why I missed it. I'm sorry I did though.....sounds brilliant.
We did used to go to the Queens on a Sunday night and queue for the double seats at the back upstairs !!! so I spent a bit of time in Pem. I still lived in Thirlmere Road though till 1971.
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Colin Sheridan was from Norley, last time i saw him he was running a club in blackpool, not seen him for years. He had younger sister and older brother.
Others: Paul Gavaghan, Carl Dowd, Martin Mcann, Jimmy Cantillon, Tony Sykes, Chris Mulqueeney Paul Smalley.
Not seen any of them for years hope there all well.
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Severn Drive
Terry & Sheila berry, Brian & Norma(melling) Penman, Glovers (2 or 3 girls), Terry & Steven Jennings, Joe Hilton, Eileen & Dennis Hilton, Jean & Martin Cullen, Margaret Penman, Mr & Mrs Colman, Dave, and a shed more, Kate Higham I can’t remember her maiden name she had a son named simon, Martin o'grady, Marie o'grady, I think Eddie Powers lived on severn drive, May, A great lad Peter, Mick,
Irwell Place
Mr & Mrs Robinson, Jimmy, Alan, Mr Robinson (Jimmy senior) was a west ward committee man.
Avon Road
Terry Hollingworth, holly played rugby for wigan, Mr & Mrs Tudor, Derek, my mate John, Edna, Sherridans, Pemp, Tommy and a shed load help me out someone, Peter Gillbert, Norma & Barbara, ken is that right Judith,
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davy did colin sherridon marry a girl from crook .. think i know him and his brother and his sister well i remember them but can not think of there names.. i remember the Dowds Marin is the one i remmeber the most. and Jimmy Cantillon they were freinds of my brothers .. DID Paul Smalley have a brother John ? if he did he was in my class at St Johns.... i see Terry Hollingworth a few weeks ago not seen him for years up to that Cherries my hubby says that the albion was owned by bamfords they had the bakery .. Barry think the Jones family lived on Avon Road big family of them .. and the Tudors?
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Rose the cantillons lived near you I remember mrs cantillon and wilf, wilf was a real good pro rugby player.
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Powers lived on Avon rd. David highton, tony hurst, frankie ainscough Joyce ainscough, Carole Gordon, mick bailey, carol Barton, Kevin Meehan, Leslie sentance, Joan lanyon, Helen arrowsmith, Ann foster, my sister Barbara winstanley and her 4 Ian Donna Karen and Gary, jeff and Gerald glover, our lot Annie George ken John Norma Barbara Peter Eric me and Carole. Brian stott, houghs, jonny moss, harknesses, sheridans-Kevin, tommy Eddie Susan Joan Ann Julie Colin.
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Hurrah your coming alive Judith, I thought we'd lostt you.
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Haha! I was on a roll then weren't I? Look at the time I posted!
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I used to live opposite the Power's on Avon Road , Left when I was 11yrs old , But my parents had lived there for donkey's years
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I vaguely remember your family gazzer
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The Cantillons lived in Dorset close Barry after we moved . when they did the Houses up every one swappped around .. they moved in to the Cromptons house dont know were they went to? There was Wilf . Jimmy ..and Julie there mum was a lovely lady .. Behind the shops barry not sure were but wernt there a family called Horabins not sure of the Spelling seem to remember a lad called Jonny Horabin. ? dont think Wilf Cantillone does much these days Barry as i was talking to Jimmy and he said as his knees were bad
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Johnny horrobin lived facing Pem lads
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only knew him slightley judy as i think he payed rugby for pem lads at the same time as our steven?
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Ok Barry, the other 2 are Chris and Marie.
Chris and me did bottle snatching in West Ward from about 71 to 74 with Ste and John Baldwin and Susan Baybutt from bottom corner of Thorburn road.
Davey, Chris is well, living near Dundee, just become a granddad for the 1st time, in the gamekeepng business.
Other names I remember from Scafell Drive ...Ormes, Hamills, Wilcox, Hocks, Rowes, Conroys, Butchers, Mushcrofts
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First of all, you seem to be having a great time with this thread. It's nice to be nice i'nt it?
I don't really know a lot about Norley apart from playing in a group at West Ward in the 70s.
I do remember though, that a couple of lads i worked with at a warehouse in the 1970s, lived on Norley.
Their names were; Albert Cavill and John Tudor and they'll both be in their 50s now.
Bert had a twin sister called Anne I think, and John was a big hefty lad.
Anyone know them?
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Yeah course we do! They have been mentioned on this thread. John Tudor lived on Avon road and cavills lived on somerset road. How are you anyway?
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Judyteen , Big Brother Dave , then Glynn , Kath , Gillian , me then Barny the youngest
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What about Dave Harris? Smashin' lad.
He lived opposite the Norley pub.
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Dave has a sister Diane, I remember she had a baby when she was quite young
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hello winder what was the name of the group you played in .? i know the tudors also like judy says they have been mentioned a few times on this thread i also new the Cavils Ann and her brother Albert
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John Tudor(Ma Yon)is a gentle giant.
Known him from school. He used to come up Smethurst Lane helping Norman Whalley doin' all kinds of jobs. Srong as an Ox.
But not seen him now for some years.
His older brother,Brian, worked in West Works(The Valve)with me.
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Judy.
Hello, I'm ok apart from owd age and poverty.
I've just spotted the replies about the Tudors and Cavills.
Didn't read all the replies at first.
Hope you and your sis are keeping well.
rbilly.
The group or is it band? I played in were called Funnybone.
We were going at the same time as Kettle and Rainbow Cottage, we used to do all the usual places like Rugby club, Casino, Bier Keller etc.
Jarvo.
Yeh John was big lad, I think he might have played a bit of Rugby at one time. He was deff a Prop Forward.
Replied: 26th Feb 2013 at 12:55
hello winder sorry i do not remember that group .. as that was what you were known as in those days .. the only band i knew of were brass bands ....
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It's ok rbill you don't need to say sorry.
Everybody back when I was playing called them groups, today they seem to be known as bands.
Back in the 60s if you played in a band it was brass.
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Winder: Did Joe Moss play bass for you?
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Yes he did.
We all, thats me, joe the singer and drummer, met up last year at Joe's house.
First get together in 30 odd years.
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hope you enjoyed your self winder bet there was a few tales to be told
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A few tales, rbill, but thinking back there should have been a lot more.
If you know what I mean.
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ha ha enough said nudge nudge wink wink
happy days ey
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 does any one remember Dirty DickÂ
Hahaha, rbilly, not heard that names for ages
Rest of the burkes where, Sylvia, stey, tosh, frank, pat, mick, joey, cant remember the name of the other girl
Rest of the hiltons where, mick, dennis, jimmy, chris, eilen and joyce
Lets not forget the legendary neil and mick power, last time I saw mick he still had his pvc bomber jacket on and his flared pants and ankle boots with the side zip
Cracking thread
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think the other girl was called Rosemary i know it had Rose in it with something added to it?
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Rosalee they were a good looking family the burkes, lovely teeth! I remember Eileen Hilton she used to have really bad psoriasis bless her x I love this thread!
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thats the one, i see stey now and again but not seen mick and pat for years
i think on of the hilton girls married a farmer and lives in crawford village
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Other Hiltons: Alf and Valerie.
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I Knew it was some thing with Rose in it . as her mum once said to me she liked my name and that is why she was calling her that .. lol and me i Hate my name lol i remeber Eillen Hilton and the other girl can not think of her name one of them lived near me.. how many girls was there i remember two it is the younger one who lives round the corner .. and i remember Dennis.. all the burkes were good looking .. bt there dad was a good looking bloke young Frank used to look like his dad from what i can remember think he was the tallest of them all ? I was talking to Steven a couple months ago he was in Pem Centrall with Christine his wife an old freind of mine.. they were at a family do it was Christine sisters 50 th birthday there Carol not seen her since she was about 14 and all her sisters and her brother were there doesnt time fly does not seem that long ago when we all used to sit on the wall at the norley shops used to be loads of us and we never caused any bother and we were never moved on by the police either .. they used to stop and chat to us and tell us to behave our selves and we did
many happy memories of my time on norley loved it .. not much money but we did see life lol
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didnt there joey have the crispin at one time
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i dont know walshy as i lost touch with them for a long time once we all got married and had familes . i moved away from norley at 17 and them moved up to Bryn so it is nearly 40 years since i lived in the area .. still have freinds who live there in Pemberton and kept informed of people who we went to school with but as for the others i dont no....one of my best freinds Married Jimmy Mackin
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We were in Pem central over christmas it was my sister barbaras 70th (normas twin) she hired the whole club! Mind you shes gone there for donkeys years! It was a really good night
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I remember walking home from Robert Lewis with my sisters in the very early sixties. In those days school finished at four o'clock and it would be getting dark when we set off home. Near to Christmas, we would compare all the Christmas trees that were on show in the houses of Thorburn Road and Norley Hall Avenue. There were no outside displays in those days, thank God...
Everything had its place. Money was tight, but we appreciated the small things. Happy afternoons walking home up Norley.
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People/kids appreciated everything in them very, very happy days
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phew, i thought for a moment that this,one of the best threads on here, for a long time, had been removed
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So did I! I was proper panicking!
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Reet where do I start,I'm from norley and know a lot of the people mentioned on here ,but do you remember the characters?( Commando joe) jones lived in Dorset close he put a wire fence up int back garden and connected it to leccy so we would,nt pinch his kids bommy lol but that didn't stop us .next door to him was (Popeye) Sinclair owd chap he was .and who remembers the Marney,s Ella wren , Albert ainsworth ,deb jones best header of a football in wigan she would play football we us all day .then the was the crooks family,jeff,Alan, Carl and his twin can't think of his name ? Anyway mr crook always had spare valves fot tellys in the days and when our telly broke as it often did ,me dad would say nip up mr crooks an see if he's got a spare B 10 valve or whatever number it was what we needed and guess wot he always had one lol good old days
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Yer reet jarvo we had nothin only a size five casey ball what we got from west ward party given to us from Father Christmas (freddy's dad) I can smell the leather now, can any of the lady's remember what they got?
We were told you've got lot's to play with..... It's called outside.
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Humber Place
Mr & Mrs Markland, Joyce, Roy, Dave, Liz, Mr Markland (Sid) was the secretary of the northern anglers association, Roy was the steward of the west ward. Can anyone remember Eve & Neville's second name, the photo of there wedding was on here a while ago, they live in Atherton now.
Derwent Place
Kevin Close, Christine, there are a few more. Dennis Knight,
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Jackie Close. Nice fellah. Worked at Banks' Funerals for Brian Halliwell.
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Yer reet again jarvo.
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Robert Parkes, Brian Peet.
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Yer not paying, attention jarvo they are on higher up
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Sorry, Barrie...gettin' carried away here.
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Mrs Blinston, Mr Martin, and Mrs Saunders. Three great teachers from Pem Primary.
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Burt ainsworth
Not heard that name for a while
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Ray Atherton lived in the White Houses. His brother, Ian, passed away at a young age. Also Geoff Atherton.
Ray goes in the Workers in Pem.
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Did he used to play football, if it is him, I heard to got signed high for attacking a ref
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Walshy: He played at school, but I haven't heard that he got 'sine die'.
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Unless im thinking of someone else
Does he still work for pem taxis, could phone him up and ask him
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Work?
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Mr Millard! He was a great teacher! Popeyes daughter Doreen married my brother Ken! They had 3 kids in 3 years, all ended up in foster care cos Doreen had what would now be known as post natal depression but she was sectioned and institutionalised for rest of her life, oe of the kids has died as well now, Linda.
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I should've said does he still get vodkad, is that wiganism, up at pem taxis
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tomjackel i remember joe jones he always had is trousers hanging down is that why you called him comando always showing his builders bum .. well when i say builders bum never knew him to ever go to work .. every so often you would see him with white banages all over his arms .. [dont no why ] but i know what the neighbours used to say and as for the leccy well
also remember the marnies dont remeber the crookes having twins was the marnie kids not twins think one of the Girls was called Julie dont remeber what her brother was called good looking kids as i remember ther mumwas called Margaret .. they were related to the Cullens who lived next door to us in Somerset Road also remeber the Sinclers i used to run erronds for Mrs Sinclaire there was a daughter who no one ever saw i remember she died and there was some investigation in to how? ... I dont know why this as been taken of a sticky unlesss Brian as been asked by some one to take it off .. some one will have to email him and ask him to put it back for another little while i did it last time... relly enjoying reading it i have a look most days to see if any one else as added any thing i also know Debb Jones and Ella Wrenn The Crookes had a sister Christine she is in Canada now . she came back a few months ago for her mums funerall she as not changed one bit .. tom jackel give us a hint on to who you are lol
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Mr Murphy was the Headmaster at St Cuthberts. A green fence separated Robert Lewis and St Cuthberts.
We hated the Catholic kids, and they hated us. Was silly, but there you go.
A lot of Catholic kids feared Murphy; he used to beat them black and blue.
He'd be in prison today.
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Flippimg ek.... talk about memories... Brian and Eric Peet lived in the same street as me [Levens Walk] and where good friends of mine...along with johnny Horribin who lived on the corner of Norley Avenear he roundabout. Brian married Barbara, but I cant remember her maiden name... then there was John and Ann Smalley and Bob Blann ?? not sure how to spell his surname... Funny but I saw Bob just a couple of days ago, and he always waves if he is at the gate and I drive past....
By the way wizzerwin... when I was atill at school I used to fancy Alan Gaskel
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The palava with the sinclairs unknown daughter was awful. They kept her locked in a bedroom for years, alone while they went to west ward 7 nights a week. When the day arrived when she was being removed an ambulance turned up and according to one of the ambulance men she was stuck to sheets with bed sores, shit, piss an monthlies. And to top it all it was rumored that her brother Joe had been having sex with her.
I think this thread is more noticeable now it's moved back
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Judyteen: You put that with not one bit of understatement...
Sad. Very sad. Poor girl.
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Because I can, it was awful, I was a teenager and I'll never ever forget it.
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Forgot to mention Carol Derbishire who lived near Norley pub is still a friend of mine and we keep in touch still... heristers where jeannette and Lynne who unfortunately is no longer with us..as for the Dowds, I really only knew Joan...
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Yes i remember that know judy. i was only young when that happened it is a very long time ago i did not even know she had a daughter untill this happened. dont now about the rumour about her brother though .
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Must have been very traumatic for all concerned.
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I dont remember that... what a crying shame...
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Used to go to school with a girl called Margaret Ryding, she live on Montrose Ave at the bottom of Norley Rd opposite what is now Falkirk Grove. There was also a lad called Gerald ? he had red hair he used to deliver newspapers for Shuttleworths, think he lived on Levens walk Moodysue. Anyway I really fancied him and used to help him deliver his papers, but he never asked me out
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Moodysue; did you have ginger hair when you were young?
Alan Gaskel, if you'd had worn a cat woman outfit he would have been putty in your hands.
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Did you live lower down than ste brown?
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hiya moody i used to be freinds with Carol . when she lived near me .. i am freinds with her again on face book she found me on there a while ago and i remember her Sister Lynne she was a lovely girl i remember she had a mane of long blonde curley hair,, from what i can remeber of her she was always a little frail.. i have told Carol about this thread and she said she will have a look at it
... as for the Sinclaires it is coming back to me know there was a clear case of neglect wer'nt there didn't it go to court . they lived back to back to us they lived in Dorset Close . next door to the Murphys and we lived in Somerset road .. i remember know that the back bedroom curtains were never opened and that is were the poor girl spent her time .. was there only the two chilldren i remember a red haired lad ?
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Cant remember the name.... I lived in the Dutch Houses.. they where new built then..... We moved there from Highfield when I where 13 or 14 not sure which now.... long time ago....
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PS ya know when I first moved to Norley.... I hated it.... Pem boys used to harrass me coming out of school and shout my name under my bedroom window
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that is what you get living near the boys school lol been to many a dance there changed a lot since we used to go remember the hall used to be at the front ...
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jarvo I went to St Cuthberts for four years and in all that time was never beaten "black and blue" by Mr Murphy nor do I know of anyone who was I think you should retract that scurrilous remark
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Keith and Norma holding lived in the Dutch houses,
Say hello to Carol when you next talk to her, we used to kiss in the Cuthberts yard when it was closed, but she always liked Brian Bradley (dilly) when we were 12/13.
Do you remember Lynn Atherton or Carol Houghton from pem girls school?
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Yes both of them..Lynn was in my class and went into the Police Force or so I heard... I can see that though I remember you coming up to pem girls also wizzerwin...
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rbilly re the Sinclairs. Did they call the father the White Hunter in West Ward. There was once a big fight in West Ward between members of that family. Can you get sued on here.
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rbilly lynne had spina bifida... she had lovely hair didnt she? god bless her.... I remember laughing at Carol at school because her mum was having another baby.... back fired on me when I found out a couple of weeks later that mine mother was having one to..
wizzerwin... kissing eh... just wait till I see that Carol
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you are right jarvo the Athertons did live on norley hall somerset road and ian did die young they had gone of to a football match from what i can remember . and i think they had had a fair bit of pop between them and they left him to sleep it of and when they came back they found him .. sad . they had a sister who died quiet young as well ..no seen them for a long time wer't there four lads .. i remember one of them married a girl called Sheila Puckering .. not to gether now thoughwas it Geoff? when i was growing up there were 3 families on norley called Atherton two in somerset road and one on the Green
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Moodysue Your right we used to come in our dinner time Lynn a good friend but I haven't seen her for ages, I do remember you.
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me either... the thing I remember about Lynn is when we played St Peters at at netball... my posh cousin used to go to that school.... anyway.. I remember big Lynne practically cleaved em all out single handed
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Lynn was a good all round sports woman, she used to do judo with Paddy Biggy at pen primary and played badminton with me and my mate Dawber.
She could beat the crap out of us if she wanted.
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Titch Dawber who lived on Norley Ave...
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Moodysue, Brian lived on the corner of norley hall avenue.and thorburn road at the top end of norley.
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AH!!! yes I remember him... a big lad...
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Ha Ha Ha yeah, did you hear that Judith, don't forget to tell your Eric that
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Hello wiser, it's good to know you remember us all. It's Liz Markland (hubby's log in). I've really enjoyed reading this thread and remember
Nearly all those mentioned in it. It brings back lots of memories from the past. Hope you're all keeping well.
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I knew one of the Ambulance men who went to pick up the girl(Sinclair) He said it was one of the worst things he ever had to do, there were live maggots on the bed
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Jarvo. You are wrong about Mr Murphy. He was far from a cruel man.
Two of his teachers used the cane indiscriminately, he never did.
He was a fair minded man but strict.
He was also choir master for St. Cuthberts church, I know, I was in the choir. He was a dedicated headmaster and a dedicated Catholic.
The myths of him and Sister Rose are so very wrong.
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mariem the man who we called White Hunter was Mr Jones he had a Daughter Sylvia not sure about any more chilldren she married Kenny Turton . think he was from Worsley Hall .Mac ithink it went to court it was in the papers not sure of the out come though . i was only young when it happened so i can not remember all the details .. hello Liz are you Roys sister ? did you have a sister Joyce who worked in the West Ward ?
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Well I was about 15/16 so 71/72ish
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If you're 70 ish..you'd have been about 28 at the time.
Just trying to help you with the maths!
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Lets hope not, this is a cracking thread, just like what the site used to be like before, and lets hope it stops that way
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Back to this cracking thread
Sorry, still dont remember anything about it
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Rose, yes Liz is Roy's younger sister.
Hi Liz how could I forget you lot we were brought up together, like people on here say, great times of our lives.
Didn't you work at Wrightington and are you still there? Its great to hear from you, and tell David welcome to Wigan world.
ps; click on wizzerwin Liz.
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only remember Roy and Joyce.... i am so enjoying this thread please lets not have any Falling out or back biting .
thanks folks
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Mr Murphy was a bully. That's what I've been told. I was nine years old at the time, so it sticks.
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Anyway, anybody remember Tangles opposite Nigel Slater's Dad's shop?
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i agree rbilly
how long was Gladys shop there
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Don't encourage him, get off this thread TOM- you'll be ignored on this thread anyway unless you're talking about norley
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TOM, please stop stalking me...
Thank you.
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Tangles, anybody? It was opposite the shops. Was a youth club type of thing.
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was that next to what is or was the old folks home jarvo
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Dave: Yes.
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was Gladys shop for over ten years as i know of walshy.. DONT NO HOW LONG AFTER I LEFT NORLEY SHE HAD IT I USED TO LOVE GOING IN THAT SHOP WATCHING THEM CUT THE MEAT FRESH FROM THE BONE sorry caps lock and cutting the cheese with a big wire . and being served not help your self then was it
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i remember it jarvo,never went in but remember the building.
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Dave and Linda Clark used to go. It was Dave who asked me. I think my sisters went.
I vaguely remember it.
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i remember it still being there, rbilly, in the early eighties, i think one of the McGuires used to work there
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TOM, get off this thread.
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dougan and saville didn't have any connection with norley tom, if jarvo,s wrong let somebody who knows reply to what he has said on this thread
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Thanks, Dave.
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has he defended them on this thread tom
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...and here we go again
Some people are just not happy unless they are name calling, having a go at someone or just generaly causing upset....and it always seems to be the same ones
Tsk tsk tsk
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Anybody remember Albie Middlehurst? not even sure if he lived on Norley but he used to come to the "Cade" on Pem. If I recall correctly he had a Honda motorbike
If anyone tries to spoil this thread please just ignore them
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did he have a brother named david rio who was in the saffron showband
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Hiya Wizzer (I knew who you were before I looked)!!! I still work at the hospital but am now based at wigan. Yes rbilly, Joyce did used to work in West Ward. Its like going back in time reading all these stories - wonderful! I remember Tangles and Sunshine Corner. We used to go there and sing. Keep the thread going, I'm really enjoying it. Thanks everyone!
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I remember Glady's shop and Bob Randle's toffee shop. Yate's used to have the chippy. Bob Blan has two sisters, Winifred (married to Johnny Stevens) and Carol. As well as Roy, Joyce, and Dave, we also have a sister Kath. She used to knock around with Margaret Murdock.
The young girl who got run over was called Denise Halsall. Her sister was Jean.
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david49, sorry but don't know. Only knew him from playing the "Flippers"
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Speaking of Jean Halsall.... does anyone remember Anne Tame? poor lass died at the age of 15yrs... she went to Pem Girls.... and used to hang around with Jean.... All these years later and I have never forgot that girl
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Rio I remember Albie, as I remember he was a bit of a nutter, him and holly (terry) used to bump the supermarket window with their backsides to knock the cans down on the inside to see who could knock the most down but Albie bumped it to hard an all the window went in.
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if it's the same lads i'm thinking of they lived at poolstock for a while as their parents were steward and stewardess at poolstock labour club, david went to abbey guest, so i think they did live round the pem/orrell area at one time,
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Hyprocrite: A person who pretends to be something they are not...
I don't get it. I aint pretending to be anybody. I am just stating facts about a teacher who taught at St Cuthbert's over 40 years ago. Facts given to me by other people. I didn't know Mr Murphy personally, but these stories were rife in a time when teachers did get away with coming the heavy hand with young kids. It was the norm then.
This is a good thread. Norley teachers are relevant.
How does that make me a hypocrite?
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Sorry TOM....
But I dont see offensive language and juvenile name calling as being big or clever. I appreciate however you do and that you sometimes like to use it in a desperate attempt to gain the upper hand but I am way above all that and its something I dont usually pay attention to and generally prefer to leave to the other antagonists big-mouths and trouble makers.... hence the reason I chose to ignore you......hope very much you understand
You dish out offensive remarks and defamatory comment to sensible rational adults then complain when you get no response.......thats a very grown up way to behave isnt it TOM?
I really did expect better from a supposed man of learning such as yourself....... tsk tsk tsk
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i wouldn't lose any sleep over it jarvo, you just keep typing your memories of norley good or bad,if anybody knows any different they'll let you know
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Dave:
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does anyone remember Anne Tame? moodysue; thanks I couldn't remember her name, she died of leukemia. Anne and Jean's sister Denise's deaths really affected me to this day. I tend to shut out the the bad things and thats why I couldn't remember their names, thanks Liz
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What was the lads name who drowned in the quarry behind montrose school, maybe about 1969 ish.
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I remember that, very vaguely, don't know his name though
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Jarvo. I will say again that Mr Murphy was my headmaster. He was strict as were all teachers back then but I had no fear of him. He was not a bully but he did not hesitate to punish any one who stepped out of line.
I don't ever recall the word bully being attached to a teacher back then, let alone a headmaster. He was well respected.
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People I knew but didn't know where they lived on norley
Denese Sonner. Les Grindly. David Baybutt. Ray and Terry Haswell. Jenette Perry. Josie and Maureen Ward. Sheila Bradley. Margaret Crook. Kevin Winn. John Mason. Anette Pie. And my lovely paper girls Anne and Judith Holgate.
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Because jathbee bullying wasnt talked about then as it is now, but it was about, and the majority of teachers were bullies, but in them days we called stricked and no nonsense taken from them, bring them back the bullies and perhaps the kids of today will show a bit more respect for the teachers and society in general.
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Jarvo, I also support what Jathbee says. I was at St. Cuthberts, both the old infants school on Elsmere Rd and then the Thorburne Rd Junior school. I left in 1970 to go to the Convent. Mr. Murphy was a brilliant headmaster.
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I thought Terry haswell was part of the power family from Avon rd? Jeanette perry lived on Severn drive holgates lived on or near kirkstone I think.I thought John mason lived up smethurst lane? Annette pye lived on Avon road
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Judith, do you remember Mr Millard's bat, also Mr Brown (Sid) he used to let me and Brian Bradley go to the clay hole to get newts and other water insect's for the school fish tanks, we got away with murder those days.
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No I don't remember a bat! I was a good girl Barrie
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Jarvo, Town, Sledge, please DO NOT comment on anything but norley as the conflict will continue thanks.
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It looks like TOM's been on the strong cider again.
The old soak will never learn.
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remember the house where john and alan derbyshire lived starting to sink because of subsidence,
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Town make a thread about this on handbags and we will discus it there
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I remember they demolished two houses... I think!
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i know they did the one that john and alan lived in sue,that was the one next to the path that took you into wiltshire place and didn't a big hole once appear in norley ave caused by subsidence ?
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I used to live on the corner of Lamberhead rd and Norley hall avenue, there was lots of subsidence around our house, our back garden sank in places about five or six inches and if you look on google maps (street view) you can see in two places where the road.collapsed and has been repaired.
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i used to work with alan and john,turned up to their house one morning to pick them up for work and the washhouse roof looked like kirby ski slope it had sunk that much
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I do remember that
They knocked down uggys house and left the second one as I think the mcoughlins moved into that one
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oh my word some of these names are blasts from the past i remebere Ann Tame dying so sad that was .also remebere Jean Hallsol . and Bob Randells shop he was a rugby player played for Widnes so Jimmy as just told me .. and the People who i remembere having the chippy was Roy McCartney and his wife and his family mum sister sister in law all of them they were a nice family .. Walshy i remember one of the Mcguires workin there as well . was her name Ann? not sure as there were a few of them i remember Stuart and Tony Mcguires. not sure of the other sister name ? . Barry i think the Tickles moved in to were you used to live ? .. and guess what i bumped in to one of the Walshys in wigan to day Carol i was telling her about this thread she is going to get her Family to get it on for her
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Lynn McGuire Lol O'Brien remember him? I remember his sister Ina an brother Mick ,mick married Ann Calland, Dave Calland works at same place as me.
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They did Rose, can't you just see it now Judith kissing Tommy Tickle in my owd house ha ha. She's going to kill me Rose
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Thats it Lynne i had her name on the tip of my tongue lol ' i remember Lol Obrian not seen him for years he lives in Ashton now . last time i see him he was driving buses .and as for Ina and her sister Trish just got them as freinds on FB .. I Rememebr the Callands Lynne used to be in my Class at Pem .. does Ann still work at Asda that was the last place i see her mind you it was years ago Barry ha ha Tom was used to girls having all those sisters..
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Rose how do you recognize people after all these years?
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Tommy tickle!! OMG! I only went out with him for about 3 months and it seemed like 3 years! Soooo boring! West ward every night with his mother playing bingo. Just before Christmas 1972 he was walking past our house and me mam n dad had bought me a fun fur from Polly Paige and I was trying it on, I meemawed through window for him to have a look. He took one look and said "it looks well!" me mam threw him out shouting " she's only bloody 16!, and she's going to Spain next week for 4 days!" I never went out with him again!! 4 days in Lloret de Mar £29 lol!
Our Carole says that to me Barrie about remembering people! She cracks on she can't remember anybody!
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Ha ha judy that made me chuckle fun furs i remember them think all the teenagers had one Barry i have a good memory for faces
dont always remember there names .. and when i see some one and say hello i am thinking to my self now were do i know that person from or how do i know that person who as said hello to me
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rbilly do you remember george mullen scouser who worked with your mum and dad at dunlops,moved round near to where your mum and dad lived
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Im still trying to find out if it was true that there used to be a hot dog stall, like they used to have down Wigan, outside the west and someone pushed it down norley hall avenue because they where drunk
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hello david did he have about 4 sons Raymond was one of them can not remember the others . oh waite a min think one was Keith the others have gone compleatley out of my mind be thinking about them all night now .loll doh silly me if it is the same one they lived a two doors away from us dont remembere him working at Dunlops though .if it is the same family the eldest lad married the Girl next door Kathleen Malone sadley she passed away a few years ago
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if your answers to me and not barry rbiily,not sure when george moved round there as he moved from liverpool to skem then on to norley,he was fairly regular in the west ward
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Walshy it's probably true! Rag and bone man took is horse in and they made him sign it in! [:p]
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ups sorry david silly me i dont remember his name to be honest only knew him as mr Mullin but i think he died when i still lived there ?
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it will be the same bloke rbilly,he was a nice bloke
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Prudence Newport? She lived in between burkes and ainsworths. Next door to ainsworths was a funny family, mother who was a bit stuck up and 2 daughters Gina and Kathleen, they didn't stay long. Mothers fella was a good looking fella called ray and somebody said he was Kathleen winstanleys brother.
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Judith, no wonder you carole can't remember anyone you couldn't drag her away from tele.
Spain for four days ha ha ha, I've been dumped for less, it was sunnyvale for us.
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Judy, I think there names where rayburn
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I remember Ann Tame Wizzer. She died of a diabetic coma. Also, the young lad who died in the quarry was named Uniake (can't remember his first name). His mother and father were called Peter and Joan. I remember Annette Pye, she was in my class at school. Christine Perry, Doreen Callaghan also went to pem school. Does anyone remember Bob Shepherd (all the girls fancied him)!!! There was also the Stevens family, Pauline, Tony, Alan and Yvonne, lived in Humber Place after the Bannisters moved to orrell.
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Flipping eck judy that is another name from the past Prudence Newport and you say about that other family mother a bit stuck dont remeber them or the ainsworths up i used to go to school with a girl called Susan Holmes and she had a sistere Valery who lived in that row facing the Cavills Somerset Road they did not live there long they lived in the row you are on about .. do you remember the Baynams they lived in the first house in that row .. think they moved to Beech Hill ?
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David did Bob Shepherd live on Lake walk?
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Bob shepherd was gorgeous! Yeah rayburns! Was it not levens walk? I remember Carole baynham and Susan Holmes
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Christine Perry was nice.
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EQ, it was Jimmy Shepherd who lived on Lake walk.
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Diabetic coma, thanks Liz You'll be right I was led to beleive other wise.
I couldn't remember Yvonne Stevens name but I could remember what she looked like, also Christine Perry didn't she live in Thorburn road and have a brother name Tom.
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Liz........L.B. moved to Orrell.....you got us together, then I got dumped again,
I'm starting to get a complex now.
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Barrie
Every thread of yours eeems to end "and she dumped me".
Not too good for the ego. Why don't you start telling lies like "we were in different places in the relationship so we decided to remain friends and to see other people"
Having said that, everybody knows that it means dumped!
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if i remember right, kath rayburn ended up with............mick power
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Did she?!?! not that posh then!
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Dodger, thanks I lived next door on Saddleback, do you by any chance remember Alan Crompton, I was a bit younger than him but Ooh I did like him
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HAHAHA
Im sure they had the house at top of big thorburn, which used to be horace hamills house
who would have thought eh, used to walk around looking down her nose at other people
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did somebody say summat? nah thought not
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Phil I was told a long time ago if you tell lies you start to look like gollum, now then I wouldn't wish that on any one, anyway I'm pretty good at getting back up when I've been knocked down.
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I was drinking tea when I read your comment and now it is all over by bloody keyboard!
Nice one wizzer
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Bumped in 3 of the Grady girls to day was telling them about this thread ..
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Was 1 called Denise?
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i remember Christine, marg, kath, marie
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I think I'm on wrong gradys unless there was quite a few of em?
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there was a few of these judy, they lived in avon road
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Hmmmm yeah vaguely. I think Denise Grady lived around helvellyn rd
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Kath is reading it as i type lol hope no body says owt wrong lol
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AWW Kath can you hear that Walshy lol
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wizzer who is gollum lol
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Rose, he was a character from the lord of the rings
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Yes, Bob Shepherd lived on Levens walk. Wizzer I remember getting you and LB together. I still see her occasionally, shall I tell her you were gutted?ha ha! Christine Perry did have a brother called Tom, nice family. I remember Mr Millard's bat (bit dodgy if you ask me)!Not that he ever used it on me.
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LB worked in the Abbey National in Market Place. She sent me a love letter when I was poorly.
Christine Perry was very pretty and always wore lovely red ribbons in her hair.
I regularly speak to Diane Cooper and Joyce Parkinson in Asda.
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Rbilly,joe jones always had army clothes on from KAYS I think hence commando joe,scooby,s now living in Warrington ,marneys did have twins so did the crooks Carl and Gary .the girls name was Rosaleen Burke ,prudence Newport had two sisters and a brother his name being Norman Ashcroft ,mrs Rayburn now living in billinge her daughter kath was in the papers quite a few times she liked borrowing things from shops if you no what I mean but that was 30 odd year ago so il not mention it lol. Do you remember scotch Martha &arthur athertons and all the daughters even I can't remember their names maybe you can help there?
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oh right barry not in to that lol just asked kath the name of the clan hear we go
marie .kath .christine. margaret. the lads martin. john. and mickey she as tried to register so we may be having another new addition to our band of merry men on wigan world she knowes who you are gazza and she is trying to work out who you are walshy lol give her a clue lol gazza did your sister marry Roy Clarke ?
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I remember Frances Atherton. R.I.P.
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Lovely girl Frances was i am still freinds with two of her Sisters Genette and Maxine.. Genette as mad as a wasp lol
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Wow I can't keep up with this thread I've only been off for a minute and all hell's let loose, anyway
"we were in different places in the relationship so we decided to remain friends and to see other people"
yep I know....
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Jarvo I remember both Diane Cooper and Joyce Parkinson Diane lived on Larch avenue and Joyce lived near the ravine.
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Joyces sister Jean was in my class at St marks
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Does any one remeber Sheila Parkinson and Richard and Doreen and Christine think they lived in that road to your right as you coming down norley hall avenue.. from west ward Christine married Roy Melling they used to call him Killer he was always in the west ward
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Think i may be wrong as to were they lived think it may have been that avenue facing st cuthberts dont know if that is classed as norley or not ?
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hello rose kath has landed xxxxxx
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ha ha now we are in for it BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID LOL wellcome to wigan world Kath you be reet on hear wench lol...
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Yeah I do rose. They lived in Devon close. Doreens son Adam used to live next door to us here in eccleston, they moved to orrell a couple of years ago, were still in touch. Doreen lives facing abbey lakes.
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Give Doreen my regards judy i used to go to school with her ..tell her i was sorry to hear about Sheila.. she was a freind and neighbour when i lived in Chatsworth Street in Pemberton lovely girl and so were her children Barbera and Karen.
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Anybody remember hannons, they lived in cul de sac at bottom of Avon rd. I seem to remember they were clever people. Gladwins from Avon rd, I always thought they were proper well off!
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Does nobody remember Nigel Slater?
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Don't think so
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His Dad had the fruit shop.
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Oh! I remember fruit shop but can't picture Nigel
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was he a tall lad with very dark hair
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Not that tall. Nice lad, very friendly and very popular.
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went in their flat once (the one over the shop) and on the wall was a topless picture of his mam, and a big picture too
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we were sniggering and trying not to stare
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Was she worth trying not to stare at?
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I remember him jarvo. Which school did he go?
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Robert Lewis. But after we transfered to PP, he vanished.
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wow what a thread we have hit 500 AND 1 comments brilliant
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as an impressionable 10 year old I certainly thought so
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Nigel slater had a bro called Dennis slater they bought the shop off Florrie who was their dads sister.
they where also related to roy who s mum had the chippy and brenda was another aunt who worked in chippy .
i worked for florrie from being 11 years old and left at 15 proper good folk xx
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Excellent 'impression' to take home with you then.
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Jarvo, I remember seeing him And I was going to pem boys so I presume he went to a public school.
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He vanished. Nobody has mentioned Mick Bailey's dog, Rocky yet.
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Jarvo, I remember seeing him And I was going to pem boys so I presume he went to a public school.
Edit how come this is on twice?
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Rocky Bailey?
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beltin and no arguments regardless of a couple of hiccups.. now this is a thread worth reading
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Jarvo I've been trying to find diane cooper on friends reunited but no luck. If you see her again tell her I was asking about her. I remember the Hannans - Pat was a teacher at Pemberton primary till it closed. I also remember Nigel Slater - they eventually bought a shop in Marsh Green when they left Norley. LB was my best friend, went on my first holiday abroad with her! Anyone remember the Hoppers - Catherine David and an older brother. There was also eric farrimond on norley hall ave - its all coming back now!!!!!!!
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Does anybody remember my sisters Ingrid and Pamela?
And my cousins, Sandra, Bobby and Cliff?
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Dave: The Hopper's. Yes!
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Yes, I remember clifford and vaguely remember Pamela
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I will ask Diane if I see her in Asda on Wednesday. I usually do.
Not seen LB for ages.
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I remember Clifford, he used to join us on club trips to southport, I thought he was lovely! In fact when you first joined ww jarvo I thought you were Clifford! Our Eric said "you wont remember John Jarvis?!?!" I did remember you actually who is LB? And don't tell me barries ex!
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Rose, congratulations on your Five Gold Stars
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Judith, her name was Lukeesha Band, but for short we called her Luke and my real name is Barrie Behindyou, she said if you think I'm going to be Luke Behindyou your trippin so your .........guess what......yep.
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Judith, Lorraine Bannister, she married Ian Hails the builders.
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david farnworth,if it's the hoppers who lived on norley ave you mean, the elder brother was kenny,sadly no longer with us,catherine still lives on norley and she will be sixty next month,david now lives in orrell, i think he moved there shortly after leaving the navy.
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sadly kenny died when he was knocked down in pem
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Eeee! Barrie you make me chuckle! I tell you who's wearing well-Lynn Ainscough, well she's Swift now, looking good. Who lived in that bungalow at top of norley hall ave? On the right next to west ward.
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i think she lives gathurst road now
i never knew who lives in that, and still dont,
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Yeah she does. Somebody will know, probably Barrie!
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she had a sister called julie and when here dad kicked off in the west they used to send about 4/5 coppers to control him and sometimes they couldnt so they used to go and get his wife agnus
doesnt he work at heinz
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Whoooooooooooooooo thank you rio never realised
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Judith, I can remember the seeing the people in that bungalow, they kept the garden immaculate, but I never knew their names.
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What happened to the red-haired Vicky Thomas?
The Siren of Pemberton Primary.
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Jarvo, are you talking about Victoria Thomas Rose to give her the full title.
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Yes.
Victoria Rose Thomas...
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Don't know, but she is related to me in some way. Ha ha you'd think I' know her name eh.
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Don't know, but she is related to me in some way. Ha ha you'd think I' know her name eh.
Look like mi pad got a stammer.
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Twice related?
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Any relation to Norma Thomas?
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She [Vicky] lived in Newland Ave, I think.
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That your Norma Judith
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Yeah she did Jarvo, she had lovely long red hair at pem primary just like you Jarvo, I had black hair and when it got shoulder length Mr Millard made me get it cut.
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No! Norma Thomas is same age as me, lived in Devon close
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Millard was a moody b-----d.
He used to pick on Eric...
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I used to work with Norma Thomas at Tupperware when i first left School lovely girl not see her in over 40 years ..
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I don't know if I dreamt this but....Keith Chegwin used to go out with a girl from norley, Devon close I thought, and had a child with her. Anybody else remember this?
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Cheggars played at Pop?
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Brian Gregory? I remember the name but I think he was older than me. His relative has asked does anybody remember him?
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Hello judy Brian and his brother are spoke about a little further up in the thread . i have mentioned him and so as some one else a few of us knew him i used to run errands for his mum May they lived in Grasmeare road practically oposite the Walshys .. does any one remember Billy Prior he lived in that road as well he used to work at coal yard in orrell nice lad sadley he passsed away a few years ago
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judith; Brian Gregory was well known on norley, he played rugby for wigan. His mam (may greg) was the steward in the west, someone commented about her on here and said she had died two years ago but I have seen her this year in that old folks home on montrose avenue, she has dementia but I talked to her for a while, she remembered my mam and family.
Unless she has died recently I don't know, but when I go again soon I hope I will let you know.
If may is still with us I'm sure she would like visitors.
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Thanks Barrie xx I've passed it on xx
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Judyteen didn't Micky daltons son live next door to you for a while?? Sorry can't remember his name .
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Vicky Thomas lived in Ince for a while now I think she's moved to Whelley or new Springs. Me and Irene Molyneux were trying to find her so we could all meet up - no luck though. She was a right card!
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Liz; Irene from Worsley hall
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well i bumped in to another norley haller to day Jacky Whittle she as not changed , that is 3 in the last week told them all about this thread
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thanks rbilly good to see u today i lived in somerset rd and lamberhead good days whent to pem girls
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Tomjackal-yeah he did! Kevin was his name and his wife was may, poor woman, and 3 kids. May stabbed mickey when him and Kevin came home drunk after spending benefit money!
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Judyteen,thanx for that little memory jolt.i know mr murphy the headmaster at cuthberts as been mentioned on ere as strict,he was he caned me every week and ill say it now he was a brilliant disciplinarian.who remembers miss Lowe,she would cane you with your left hand over your right hand she thought you'd feel it through both hands,now she wasn't the steadiest of people and she missed my hands one day and rattled the cane over my wrist lol the good old days fetch them teachers back that's what I say
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Just heard some sad news mrs Phyllis Grady as passsed away condolences to all the Grady family .. RIP Phyllis... hugs Kath xxx
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Aww! I remember mrs Grady, how old was she?
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not sure judy i was talking to Kath the other day and she did tell me but the old grey matter as dimmed a little since then . 79 i have been informed
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mum would have been 79 in may rose xxxxxxxxxx
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RIP Phyllis, she knew our Norma x
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sorry to hear of your loss Kath thaughts are with you and your family .. xxx
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Hi Rose, please pass on my condolences to Kath, I haven't seen her in years, also give her my phone number and ask her to give me a call sometime.
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will do linda
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Hi Liz (Markland) now Farnworth, I noticed you mentioned my brother Eric Farrimond, who still lives in the same house. I don't know if you remember, as you were much younger than me, that my dad and yours were mates and used to run the West Ward lads fishing club, my dad Jimmy Farrimond and yours, took us all to Ireland fishing, you must have come along. I also used to fish with Roy, so sad about his early passing. My dad also died early, he was on a fishing match at Elton res, with West Ward when he had a heart attack.
Must say what memories it has brought back reading through this thread
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Hi billybob is your brother the Eric Farrimond who lives on norley hall avenue, near the norley shops.
If it is he was in the same class at school.
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Yes he is, he went to pem senior, whilst I went to Highfield, he is seven years younger than me.
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Barry, yes Irene came from Worsley Hall, married Bobby Moore. Billybob, I remember your family well. Your dad and my dad were really good friends. Didn't know Eric still lived in same place. Used to enjoy the trips to Ireland - we used to stay in a hotel while all the fishermen stayed in tents!!
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Hi Pessypie, just found out who you are, how ya doing Kath, sorry to hear about your mum. It's been years since I last saw you, need to meet up real soon, ask Rose for my phone number and give me a call. Hope the rest of the family are doing ok, my condolences to you all, it's hard losing any of your parents, we lost dad in 1984 and mum in 1999, both were too young to die but no matter the age it still hurts. Take care and hopefully speak soon, xxxxx
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Liz, I have to smile when I remember that, we first went to a place called Balinasloe, on the river suck, and yes we were in tents, but at night we used to go to the local pubs in town even though we were only 12 or 13 years old. They would put us young lads in a back room and serve us drinks. I think your Roy was a couple of years older than me, and he was probably the ringleader.
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linda lou linda feely whooooooooooooo rose passed me ya number ope i still got it yes will ring ya the morrow xxxxxxxxxx
lots of daft memories wigan casino norley pub and more xxxlol x
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To the people who mentioned Albert and David Middlehurst, They were my brothers in law. leave a message if you want to know more as this thread is for Norley and they didnt come from there
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Billybob, yes I remember the pubs even though I was very young. Balinasloe, yes and Galway. Remember the lads all went to the Guinness factory. Roy was 66 when he died in 2011. What a sense of humour he had!!
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I've just remembered someone I knew on Norley,
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
My short term memory is rubbish but if I live a long time I might remember myself.
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Hi Kath, great to hear from you, can't wait to chat, loads of great memories from Norley days, got some great photo's as well, speak soon and take care. xxxxxxxxxx
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dont think i know you whizzer .. give us a clue lol
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Ha Ha Ha you know who I am Rosey Lee, I'm a nobody but hoping to be a somebody one day soon.
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you will get roseylee bugger lugs
and Barry you are a somebody dont put your self down
you were a nice lad when i knew you in the west ward and you seem to be a nice lad know ...
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Condolences Kath to you and to the rest of your family
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rosey lee!! that made me chuckle Don't fall for it Rose he's trying make you feel sorry for him!
Now then, Colin Turton-remember him? He lived behind shops. He used to have dogs with blue tongues! No, I'm not tripping! Chows I think they were called? Is colin Kennys' brother?
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Hey Judith your getting hard girl, I blame it on working in them hospitals. and your doing a lot of chuckling these days, it must be your Alex's feather duster, you've always been a hard task master.
Colin Turton has a brother who used to mate with us, Brian Turton, he had a Honda 125 motor bike. Dogs with blue tongues ha ha, either you've been on the mophine patches again or them dogs had been on the blue wicked.
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Was that before, or after, he had the honda plak
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Walsh, I can't remember Brian having a Honda 50 but logic tells me he got it after.
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mums funeral next thursday 11 am st cuthberts buried at st johns and wake at st thomas s x
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thinking about you Kath
in the last week alone i have bumped in to 4 norley hallers to day i bumped in to Paul Quigley not seen him for over 40 years. and he as not changed one bit still got the same blonde hair and cheeky grin ..
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They had blue tongues!! Just google chow chow on images (I tried to post a picture but I can't!) there's pictures of em with BLUE tongues
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Blue tongues well I never.
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Just been looking for pics of Norley estate... next to nothing anywhere and nothing at all of West Ward club.
Anyone have any they could share on here please ?
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i have some taken in doors of the west ward stevemul . and may be one ot two taken on norley not sure i will have to look give me a few days as i got hundreds of photoes.. not sure how to put them on hear though....
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steve Do you remember when we used to queue up to get in West Ward Christmas Eve and New Years Eve and when they first introduced Cornbrooks Ale. Fire Water.
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There are lots of photos of Norley Hall on the albumn, in Wigan streets, they are recent photos, but Norley hasn't changed.
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I remember my mum and dad turning out about half six to get a seat in the club at new year and christmas
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I remember queuing at six o'clock on Christmas Eve. The best night of the year. Was a great old place, and full of good people.
Salt of the Earth Norley Hallers.
Never see a better time than that...
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Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve queueing!! I remember my dad being sent to queue at about 6 o'clock to get in line, not that he minded being sent to west ward! And when me mam won in bandit she would shout "get me a pint glass!" Funny what you remember intit?
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some gradley folk like i said earlier i have some happy memeories growing up on Norley and not ashamed to say it either .....will try and find the photoes i have that were taken in the west ward .. may take me a month of sundays though lol
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I used to like new years eve, in the west, loads of people used to take in there own butties and a lot of the times they would start the new year, as they finished the old, ..... With a fight
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got thrown out of the kids christmas party at the west ward when i was a kid for smashing a glass they did give my present of cisco kid toy guns to my dad for me though
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To see a photo of a gang from Norley go to Album/Places then holiday places and then Norley to Skegness.
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derf; where you bin you owd trout you know loads bout norley.
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Wizzerwin ok mate its all work no play these days but l have a look in now and then,
Talkin to John Tudor last week in the bus station and he look great he live in Aspull now.
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good un that
recognise some, but not all
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I've still never been in the Norley pub.
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copied from album hope no one minds
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i recognise the Fleming brothers Roy with the girl on his knee and his brother stood behind him think his name was Stey ..Freddy Markey at the back of him top row . One of the Regan brotheres not sure of his name the lad at the side of him dont remember his name but did he marry one of the Walshes ? i remember him from the west ward
the lad on the floor with the rolled up jeans think he is a Mehan i recognise one or two more but dont remember there names ?
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him in the red, on the left, funally got it, jemmy fleming
cant make out who that is on the floor or any of the girls, or the lad with no shirt on
oh can see carole(walsh)johnson
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yes thats it walshy Carol i think she is the one who married the lad at the top who i mentioned. the Flemming brothers was there a Terry as well i remember Christine and there was another sister but i think she passed way ..? a few years ago vaugley remember some one telling me ..apologies if not .
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the 2 in the middle of the top row, are, tommy reagan and stey, jonty, johnson who married carol, your right about that being brian meehan, with the jeans rolled up,mick bailey, joe banny and the girl, with the red top on, in front of the lad with no shirt on, looks like marg ?, she went on to marry brian meehan, john o'conner with blue jumper on
back row, on right, is he not one of the cashes
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yes she did, that was shirley fleming, went out with billy melling, very sad
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Valerie Sherburn! Remember her? Sorry I keep remembering random names she lived near shops
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i think the one with no shirt on, is john stridgeon
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Did anyone know my mum Pauline Clarke,they moved to Norley Hall after living on Lime Street. Any pics of my mum would be so greatly appreciated as she is sadly no longer here as she passed away 1st Dec 2005 x Thank you
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glad youve found it ant
hopefully you can find something out off this thread
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Hello ant where did your mum live on norley hall ?is that your mum on your pictures
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Yeh i hope so .. Be funny to find the guy she had tattooed on her fingers when i was little lol John whoever he was called lol
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were did she live on Norley ant
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She lived on norley hall ave Rose x left hand side going towards west ward, near Frances Rimmer and Lynn Ainscough. Big family. Same age as me, she would have been 56
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I remember teaching at pem girls school just before it closed. Mrs Lowe was there and Mrs Baxter. The only male other than me was Ian Rayner. Great area and as Jarvo said the people there were the salt of the earth. Great bunch of girls and teachers. It was about 1970.
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hello judy dont know her .. hope some one does have pictures of her be nice for her son
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Ruth cherrington? Did she marry Eric peet? I used to love going round to their house, their garden was massive and immaculate
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hi not been on for a while our mum got a good send of lots of people at church and then at st Thomas club seen loads of folk who we hadn't seen in ages and would like to thank all who where able to come.
I have only one thing to say now poor martin Grady Phyllis will now be sorting you out lol xxxxxxxx
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Glad she had a good send off xx I love norley me!!
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Was thinking back the other day. Does anyone remember the "Scrap" between Jimmy Price and Tony Compton? Started in the games room one snowy Sunday afternoon and spilled out and down the Backs of Ormskirk Rd. Overran into a back-yard and a woman came out chasing them out with a brush. Then back into the club for a pint before last orders
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in the early 60s, me and my brother used to get a hair cut, once a month, puddin basin style , from a guy called Jack Dawber, in his kitchen on Norley Hall Avenue.Francis Rimmers family were next door to one side, Clarkes lived next door on the other side.
Then as we got older, started going to Ken the barber at top of Pem when he was in that side alley just up from chemist .
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stevemul, that's some while since. Ken was in Loch St 45yrs ago
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Steve, I remember the clarks living on the left, but did the rimmers not live further up, about 4 doors up?
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Jack Dawber must have been John Dawber's Dad. Was his wife named Annie?
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Ken was on the right in the alleyway, just up from where taxi place is. You are not far off with 45 years ago moving to Loch Street, I was about 12, so 1970 ????
Walshy...you might be right, lots of years ago so gets hard to remember exact ! Then I remember Ainscoughs a few doors further up again.
jarvo.... not sure about Annie... but if you imagine where the Dawbers lived on Norley.... this one was middle right of a block of 4 houses , passage to left of house through into their back garden. Hope that makes sense !
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Been told steve, that next door but 1, to the right was the walls, then ainscoughs and then the rimmers, no one can remember who lived in the first house
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I'll ask Lynn now
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Yeah she has,Julie
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Here's what Lynn said
Number 17 . Our julies friend sonia cunliffe mum jean, number 19 Rimmers Dot kath Terry Dave Eth Roy and one of my best friends Frances number 21 us Ainscoughs Terrence Les Marg Lynn and Julie, 23 walls, 25 myers, 27 dawbers, then the clarkies! All these kids no wonder we didn't get bored! Happy days! Not always good days, but happy days! Xxx
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Judyteen: Do you remember Valerie Hilton?
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Vaguely. I remember Eileen Hilton but they didn't have a Valerie I don't think. Where did Valerie live?
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Valerie was the youngest daughter.
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Just introducing myself as a long ago Norley resident. Mum and Dad were the first tenants of 6 Thirlmere Road way back when I was about 12. Some people I remember were a Bob Sherburn, Barbara Wolfenden, Marcia Ruby Darrington. There was also twin lads who lived on Helvelyn Road, but for the life of me I can't recall their names, must be getting senile at age 73
Now that I have found this site I will be a regular from now on.
Peter Foster, now living in Dunedin, New Zealand.
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thanks judy/lynn, i remember vaguely, did one of the walls family go living in australia and i think one played football, was his name harry
i seem to remember a valerie hilton, who lived in trent road, part of a big family
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Oh! Sorry I don't remember Valerie, how old will she be?
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About 54.
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Same age as our Carole but our Carole can't remember anybody from norley!
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has anyone heard anything about terry rimmer, according to tonker, hes not with us anymore
i phoned a few people last night, but theyve not heard anything
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Walshy: Ask Frances.
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welcome peterexwigan
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Welcome Peter.
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I remember Valerie Hilton, she was the youngest of the sisters. Eileen died quite young. Harry Walls lives/lived in valley road. Just having a lucid moment - rare for me these days Lol!!!
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peterex, welcome to WW. Do you remember anyone named Fairclough who lived on Helvelyn?
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peterx ,barbara wolfenden,thought it was wolfendale ,must be wrong ,the barbara i knew went to pem secondry
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So sorry to hear about Eileen. She was in my class at Junior school. She had a terrible skin complaint, but she was a very quiet and gentle girl.
R.I.P. Eileen.
I never knew she'd passed away.
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Hi Christine
Yes you are right it was Wolfendale and she did go to Pem Sec.
Rio I didn't know any Faircloughs.
Peter
Replied: 11th Apr 2013 at 23:55
Barbara Wolfendale also went to St Johns, she has put her class photo from 1950 on the albumn.
Rio. is it Valerie Fairclough you know?
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Aww RIP Eileen I didn't know she'd passed away, didn't she marry somebody from appley bridge?
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I'm not sure whether she married. I think she had a liver complaint. She always seemed like a nice person, very quiet.
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Eileen's sister, Joyce, was good friends with my sister.
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wellcome to wigan world peterx
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Thanks for the welcome rbilly
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Hi dodger
"Barbara Wolfendale also went to St Johns, she has put her class photo from 1950 on the albumn." How do I get to the album?
Peter
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Peter; click on photo's of wigan tab, choose Album, schools, then choose the school of your choice.
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dodger, sorry only just seen this. Valerie and Cynthia were my mums cousins daughters. Alice and Jimmy their parents all lived on Helvelyn, about half way up but not sure of the number. Alice worked at Heinz in the canteen and Jimmy worked on the railway. Cynthia was a nurse at Wigan Infirmary and I think Val worked at Woolworth's for a time. Thanks for your reply
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Rio, I remember them, Valerie married Bob Taylor when he became a policeman.
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dodger, Val and Bob divorced later. Bob was landlord of the Royal Oak at Standish Lower Ground for a while, he was also in a group called The Long and The Short, many years ago
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I saw a girl, off norley, In the swan, I think her name was heather and she lived in the same cul de sac as the flemings
Cant think of her second name
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i was out with Genette Atherton yesterday we had a good old natter..she was telling me that she heard that Kathleen Spellman had died a while ago ?
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It's Heather Johnson Walshy
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thats the one judy
did she have a brother, tall thin lad, dark hair
i heard the same rbilly, but not seen any of the hiltons to ask them, she was a rum un
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I remember she had a brother Brian not sure of the others, I think heather was youngest. Brian was same age as my brother Peter I think, 65 this year.
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I don't know if anybody remembers my late hubby Dave Brown he lived in Severn Drive he had an older brother Jim & a younger sister Frances. My brother-in -law Tommy Sheridan lived in Avon Road, he's married to my sister Elaine, he has 3 brothers Kevin, Colin, & Eddie & 4 sisters Susan, Joan, Anne, & Julie. Dave was good friends with Derek Grindly, Tommy Dolan, & Jeff Heyes who all lived on Norley.
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i remember the Sherridons robjon .. i think at one time one of the brothers was married to a girl called Sheila cottom she was a freind of mine many moons ago lovely girl ...
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Paul Johnson! Grey matters working overtime now! Robjon the sheridans lived next door to us in Avon rd.
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Good lad, Paul Johnson. And, Frances Brown was in my class...Everybody fancied clever Frances. She waltzed her 11 plus and went to the Girls' High School along with Dorothy Taylor and Margaret Connolly. Jean Lowe was the darkhorse making it 4 girls passed...
Oh, I forgot Hilary Parkinson.
5 clever wenches.
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rbilly, Did Sheila live near the Brookhouse pub if so her sister Jean is my sister-in-law she's married to Jim Dave's brother.Jarvo i'll tell Frances about this site, she's back in England now after living in Germany for over 20 years.
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hi robjon sorry to hear about dave's passing ,didn't know.used to live across from dave and jim and frances when I lived on Medway Walk back in the 50's 60's I also used to work with jimmy at Walmsleys there is a photo of us on album /work/walmsleys I think .by the way if you are who I think you are we were neighbours down Newtown
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hello robjohn dont no were she lived when she first got married. but she comes from standish lower ground origonally not seen her for years . she did have a sister but for the life of me i can not remembere her name . and i think she had a brother as well..?
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Hi farrie50 looked at the photo on album the only one i know besides Jim is Bernard is that you? if so we where neighbours i'm Chris.
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Hi rbilly Sheila was married to Colin, one of Tommy's brothers they had a daughter Donna. My sister said she did come from Standish-Lower-Ground.
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hi robjon it certainly is me long time no see hope you are well.,I often think as I passby Asda about that little house down Robbin it was really bad but my mam and dad tried their best to keep it clean
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Thats right robjon.she did .she used to go out with my brother Steven.a long long time ago i bumped in to her in Wigan years ago and she gave me her adress and phone number and unfortunatley i lost it .. would love to get in touch with her again... when you see Jean will you ask her to let Sheila know i have been asking about her hope she is well . and if she still as my adress to get in touch as i think about her often My name is Rose
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Hi I am back been away for a while could not miss this thread being a norley haller for many a year know robjohn , wizzerin, judyteen all them lived in somerset rd for 11years know lots of people from dorset cll lamberhead as well as somerset rd top middle bottom
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Hi rbilly unforunatley it's not Jean's sister they just had the same name.
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Hi farrie50 hope you are keeping well, how's your sister haven't seen her for ages, that was when she was working in the market hall. I know what you mean about the little house 1 room up 1 room down, my sister couldn't get over all the doors in the house, and a bathroom!!!!! when we moved.
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Tommy! Nice to hear from you again! Hope you're ok? Hows everybody?
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hi robjon doin alright keep ploddin on .our Maureen lives on Worsley hall now ,she lost her partner in Jan but it'll cheer her up when I tell her I've been in touch with you it's nearly 60years since we were in those little houses .god i'm getting old
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Farrie50. I have Frances as a friend on facebook. I used to work with her sister in law Jean at Wrightington hospital. Jarvo, did you ever hear any about Dorothy Taylor? I think we all used to be in the same class!
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rio caroni,what a coincidence my mum was named alice also worked in heinz canteen,we live halfway up saddleback rd.
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What's happened to walshy?
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i dont no judy there is a thread about it .. not got a clue ?
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Hi Tommy you owe trout welcome back
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HI BARRIE HOW YOU KEEPING ITS NICE TO REMINISCE HEARING BOUT OLD MATES AND NAMES,THERE WAS NO BETTER PLACE THAN NORLEY BACK IN THE DAY/
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HELLO JUDY EVERYBODYS FINE LARGE CLAN AND ALL THAT HOWS YOUR LOT AND ERIC IS HE STILL OK NOT SEEN OR HEARD FOR YONKS TELL HIM BEEN ASKING BOUT HIM
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ime not from norley, but from hr ince and just like all of you I had a wonderfull childhood and teenage years I know we will NEVER have anything like it again, looking at the lovely comments you have all put on it just shows how we were then,today they are all loonys well not quite all there are some really good lads and girls !!!! so wont tar um with same brush but when you have grown up with nowt and still loved your childhood and would love it to be like that now you are lucky I really feel we were lucky, free and innocent don't think them days will come back x
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Beckett, where about's in higher Ince, I lived in Ashton street until the age of six.
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Come on you Norleyers whats the latest.
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Walshy is now Goose.
(Just trying to help )
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Mache I only know walshy...which other name did he have ?
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Keep that stuff on here, folks
It's destined for handbags at the least.
This great thread of Jarvo's isn't.
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@ the wiz
Memories of Norley are great and we must keep them because those times will never return. It's the 'age' that we find inportant. Good things will still happen but the 'age' or 'time' can never return. Thanks for resurrecting, wiz..
A gold star to dustaf....
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June explanation thread 12th Jun 2013 at 18:03
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Pub happy hours ?
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Pubs full of good people were always happy hours, nana...
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Well said, Fred.
The White Lion was fab in the eighties and The British Queen was too.
Always remember watching the 1978 World Cup in the ' Nasty Cabin'. Great old place. Dorothy Davies (God bless her) used to drink in the vault.
Happy times.
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I can remember moving to Norley in the sixties from Marsh Green I would be seven or eight and seeing people on a Sunday morning with their hair entwined in the hawthorn bushes that lined Norley Hall Avenue after they'd been on the Cornbrooks ale in the west ward.
At that time my dad used to drink in the Norley pub but go in the west on a Sunday afternoon, you can guarantee mam and dad weren't on speaking terms on monday.
How does it go "tell yer dad his tea's on table"
When I got a bit older we used to hide in the hawthorns with a brick and a few coins and when the drunks came out of the west we would drop the coins on the brick, have you ever seen a drunken man crawling on the floor looking for his money. we hadn't a lot of money but we had lots of fun.
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ha ha nice one Barry ..i was only thinking about this thread to day ..i have found some photoes of a few norley hallers and some taken in west ward but i dont know how to put them on will have to try and work some thing out unless some kind person can come and show me lol glad the thread is back it is a gud un lol hope all is well with every one
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rbilly, that sounds great. Personally, I would love to see those old photos. Can you put them on Photobucket or something similar with a link so we may all see them..???
Or check with Mac, he knows all about this stuff....
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I would love to see old photographs of the West. Might see Denis Hilton in his cowboy hat; and Lol the bottle snatcher.
Look forward to that, Rose.
Replied: 12th Jun 2013 at 22:38
One of the best threads of all, this, thank god they didn't spoil it, keep it up, look forward to the pictures
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Was in Norley Hall today, wow, what a difference. Had to go to Marsh Green" work" so decide to pay a visit to where we grew up. The house that we used to live in is now fields but I could still picture it, rbilly standing in front of the lamp post having a photo taken with her friend Mary Mallone, another photo of me looking all sullen because I didn't want my photo taken, wearing Hot Pants, "first time around" so that tells you how long ago it was, sure rbilly has the photo's somewhere. I also had a drive around Worsley Hall, Happy days they were. Nothing like a trip down memory lane eh!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I drive through norley most Sunday's. I see people with very familiar faces and when I called in on our Barbara a few weeks ago it was like I've never left! Barrie come on, you know more about norley than me! Well....nearly! x
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judyteen, bumped into your Eric in Asda the other week. I honestly think it is the first time I have seen him since we left Pem Boys school
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Ha Ha we're back dudes. Everybody's got mobile phones now but I can remember the police call box opposite Norley shops so the police could send for reinforcements if there were any problems, and there were a few. Also we had to use the old dial phone in the red phone boxes, by the time you've dialed the number you've forgot what you wanted. It was great when we finally got our own land line, I Think the number was 213519. Mi dad said its not for phonin yer mates on.
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My granddad used to be on the door at West Ward club Tom Wilding
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I can only remember Horace being on the door. Ah, but that was the Games Room.
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I only ever remember going in the west ward once my brother John and his singing partner were on a fight broke out and I thought a comittee man had hit my dad so I smacked him and guess what my granddad who was on the door threw me out hahahaha needless to say I never went in again
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Don't mess with Joan BW!
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Jarvo, quiet as a mouse now I am
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Aye.
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Do I know you Jarvo
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Your name doesn't ring a bell, Joan BW.
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Rio, he's not changed much has he? Apart from th'air! Or lack of! Joan is your brother John similar age as me 57? Did he go to casino?
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And he's put on weight Judith.
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Yeah, and he wears specs so he's changed a lot really! Hehe! Lol!
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BARRIE!! Sorry I just thought it was easier shouting than saying bump!!
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Yer all reet Judith a fink am gooin deaf anyway.
Can anybody remember peoples names who worked in Norley shops, I don't mean the owners, I must have been in them thousands of times but I can't visualize anyone.
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What was the name of the supermarket, was it the Co op? There was a woman called Terri who worked in there, always giving kids toffees.
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Bob Randall!!
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Gladys in grocery shop next door to butchers. Don't know butchers name but he reminded me of David Nixon
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Nigel Slater.
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Jimmy Dyke is a relation of mine he used to sing in a group (FLOOKY) Then a duo (TWO MUCH) with my brother John Wilding
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Judyteen I do have a brother John but he will be 60 this Oct, (don't tell him I told you) yes he did go casino I remember him buying a white suit (night fever) hahaha and he used to get a taxi so he wouldn't mark his suit.
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Fred Markey once owned a white jacket.
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So did I jarvo, dawber and gorey , only problem we kept getting mistaken for waiters. Anyone for a pint.
Edit , can"t remember if hutchy had one. Do you remember Judith.
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Can't remember him having one Barrie x
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Hi, i came across this thread while searching for something else & i noticed my Grandma had been mentioned - My Gran was Molly King, my mum is Margaret & my Uncle is John. Lived at the top of Thorburn Rd. - I used to take my Gran to the West Ward every night - she loved it & was devastated when they knocked it down :( Hope you don't mind me joining & posting this as It would have been my Grans ' 102nd B'Day - July 3rd just gone ... x
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Welcome, Arkie. I hope your John is recovering after his health scare. Please keep me in touch of his progress and how he is keeping. I haven't seen him for so long, and we go back a long way to when we were teenagers.
Thank you.
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Welcome Arkie76 say hello to your mum and uncle John, your gran was one of the west's Great characters, we all miss it on this thread.
Tell that old trout of an uncle to get on here.
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Anybody remember Alan Law from somerset rd? I remember a girl called Carole law
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Any relation to Frank Law? Remember playing Pool against Frank in the King of Clubs?
Guess what, bumped into your Eric last Sunday in St Lukes church in Orrell
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In church? Blimey!
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It was a Christening
Doubt either of us would have been there otherwise
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Alan Law? Somebody must remember him
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Judyteen: Did he go to Pem Primary?
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judy, i used to go to pem sec mod with a lad named alan law not sure where he lived, last i heard he emigrated to aus,his fathers name was frank,he had one brother that i know of who i was told died in a motocycle accident
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Alan Law was the same age as our Bobby. I think they played in the same Pem Primary football team.
Pem Primary had the same kit as Wolverhampton Wanderers.
I think Mr Millard liked Billy Wright.
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that would be him jarvo,me,alan law and your bobby were in the same year at pem.
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Dave: Thought so.
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David that is the lad. He lived in Somerset Road. And he did emigrated to Australia and his fathers name was Frank.
I am in Australia at the moment and was talking to him at Surfers Paradise.
He has come a long way from Norley but remembers his roots. He left in the seventies and is a proper Aussie now.
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he was back over a couple of years ago jath, a lad i know was talking to him in the enfield st club,he said alan's a right aussie now
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He is back this year to watch the rugby World Cup.
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Aaaaah I knew someone would remember him
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a little bit of sad news a couple of Norley hallers have passed away ..Mr Joe Burke father to Steven and siblings . and Alf Hilton RIP to them both and condolences to there familys
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Alf Hilton?
God, that is a shock.
R.I.P. Alf.
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Aaah! Is Alice Burke still alive?
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Jarvo's quote
Frances Brown was in my class...Everybody fancied clever Frances. She waltzed her 11 plus and went to the Girls' High School along with Dorothy Taylor and Margaret Connolly. Jean Lowe was the dark horse making it 4 girls passed...
Oh, I forgot Hilary Parkinson.
5 clever wenches.
Did any lads pass?
I might not have passed my 11 plus, but I was the best newt catcher this side of marsh green clay hole.
well except for dilly bradley.
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R.I.P. Alf.
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Yes Alice is still alive judy....
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Hi all,
I lived at 22 Ribble Drive, you could look up Trent Road from our living room window. Recognise a lot of the names that's been posted. Starting with the girls I fancied in no particular order Liz Martland , Anne Tame, great girl and sadly missed. Our next door neighbour Pat Taylor came knocking late one night to tell me Ann had died. I always thought it was a hole in her heart? Another fancy was Angela Foster from Lamberhead Green, but I think Geoff Duckworth asked her out before I had plucked up courage. Jean Halsall lived across the road from our hous. Mates were Dave Martland, Kevin Wynn, I went on holiday with Steve Brown and his parents to Anglesey. We were another Jones family but not one that's been mentioned yet. My brothers were George , sadly not with us any more but still here in spirit, and Phil married Barbara Gee from Orrell. Lots of memories and will post some more soon, well the ones that are printable.
Love the thread
Tom
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Can anyone remember a lad named franky france or have I dreamed it
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There was a John France ..Barry he lived on ormskirk road though with his mrs may have come of norley at one time ...he used to stand at the back of club with Jimmy and Roy and Eric McCann and Zack Kelly...
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Not that one Rose, the franky france was my age and went to pem primary I think.
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Is John Moss's dad still alive? We used to play cricket with him, and John, and Ralph Ball many moons ago.
We had some great nights on Leopold Street.
Happy evenings.
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Tom1303 you've just made my day! A name mention and fancied all in one sentence!! I never got a look in with all those good looking girls in Norley. I remember you well as you knocked around with our Dave. Hope you're keeping well
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Jean Halsall? She was in my class.
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Liz!!! Never got a look in, if you keep it up your nose will grow longer, and in the immortal words of marco "If you mess with our Liz your in for it"
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Liz,
I was too shy to make my feelings known lol. I left Wigan in 1976 , it sounds like a long time but in my mind it,s just the blink of an eye. I still love Wigan and have great memories. I remember Stan Hart shooting me in the ankle with his .22 rifle. He lived in Humber Place, I carried on playing football for about half an hour with your Dave and the gang, then the pain kicked in and they had to carry me home, then on a bus to the infirmary. Luckily it only left an hole in the bone. My dad said I was lucky because "we're there,s no sense, ther,s no feeling!!" I took it has a back handed compliment. Anyhow hope you and your family are doing well, give my regards to Dave.
Tom
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Ha ha Wizzer you only had eyes for LB. Tom I don't remember anyone called Stan hart in Humber Place but that wasn't very nice of him!!! I'll tell our Dave you were asking after him. Hope you're keeping well too.
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Just heard that Marie grady passed away last night, aged 58.
R.I.P Marie.
condolences to Ray and the rest of the family
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i was going to post this sad news snakeeyes. such sad news just been talking to Kath...lovely girl Marie .
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So sorry to hear about Marie. Condolences to Ray and family.
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So sad to hear that a great friend has passed away, Marie was a lovely woman and always made me laugh, she will be sadly missed.
My condolences to Ray and family.
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RIP Marie
Replied: 13th Sep 2013 at 16:53
I remember some of the families I grew up with on Norley, those I have missed or can't remember I apologise . Troutbeck, Priors ,Piots, Jackson girls, Mrs Johnson,Graham Leather, Mackins Walses, then Gaskels , Greens, me being the youngest, Mr Freeman, Marie, Tereaser, Ann and Roland Bradshaw, Irene and Harry Fisher,Dorothy and Brian Holden,Honister, LOmax, Ashalls,Dave Wells O'lochlins,The Green Wogans,vizards,Quigleys, Helvellyn, chris and Gerry Hesketh,Tony Skarhill Terry Coleman, Dereck Halliwell Dykes, Gaskels, Dereck Ormshaw , Connelys, please correct me about the spellings and locations, a long time ago .
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Had a message to day from Jimmy Makins wife ..to tell me the sad news her brother in law Charley Makin passed away on Friday morning in Whiston hospital aged 64 .
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Rose, sad news. Not seen chucky for a while but he was a rum lad. RIP
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RIP Charlie
Replied: 6th Jan 2014 at 04:46
Thanks jarvo ive enjoyed reading all the comments ,an old enfield streeter .
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Charley moved to st Helens a long time ago ,sadley two of the Mackin lads have passed away now ..did not know they called him chucky. i knew his cousin as Chucky Mackin He as a sister Kathleeen they used to live near us in Dorset Close..... They also had a cousin Charley but his last name was Farley..he also lived in Dorset close he had a brother Hughey and i think his sister was named Betty,, i will be put right if i am wrong lol ..think Charley must be one of the names that is passed down in each generation.of the family
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Hello buddy wellcome to wigan world my hubby is an owd enfeild streeter down at the bottom he used to live at 147..give you a clue he and his dad were coal baggers ...and it is not Lancaster lol
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Will tell Hughie and Kathleen. You are right different Charley.
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not to sure rbilly could be alan peet ? don't tell me if im wrong need to think .
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no sorry Buddy the computre says NO lol.give you another clue they both have the same name.....
Replied: 7th Jan 2014 at 22:58
well rbilly .... if there last names were Lancaster --- im still stuck but I think I knew two lots of lancasters .
brian moved into his mums fruit shop I think . and Derek green was his relation im not to sure but I think brian used to live across the rd near Geoff barlow . interesting ,.
got me thinking now ....... it wasn't Harry Brighouse God bless him .
Replied: 8th Jan 2014 at 01:56
I've just been reading this thread and thinking about the mates I had on norley, can you remember the people you knocked about with and do you still see any of them?
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Barrie
As you know Jarvo and I are good mates.
I also meet Bernard Moore, Brian Hunter and sometimes Alan Gaskell for a beer or two on a Friday night.
I see Joe Ninety on Pem but to be honest I never particularly got on with him.
And I meet Eric Hutchinson from time to time in the Fishergate.
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@ rbilly,
The Mackin family were just two doors down from us on Helvellyn Road.
I am so sorry to hear about Charlie...at that young age too.
GOD Bless him and his family. I always loved the Mackins, especially the two girls, Pat and Margaret.
R.I.P. Charlie.
Replied: 5th Feb 2014 at 20:31
See you Friday night Phil if your up pem
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Barrie: Come to the Fish on Saturday night. Great night.
Replied: 5th Feb 2014 at 21:31
I'll be down at the DW watching the mighty Wigan Warriors until about 10pm.
Doubtless I will arrive back on Pem feeling thirsty
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Phil, Jarvo I will try for Saturday night.
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Whatever happened to Pey Higham and Roy Hickey?
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Pey Higham died years ago, ask our Eric just read in observer Bernard Brown has died
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Judyteen: I didn't know that. Is Bernard Brown Stew Brown's brother?
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Bernard used to scare me when we lived in the white houses.
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He used to frighten me to death! Don't know jarvo have a look in observer online
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Just had a look in observer jarvo, no brother called Stuart. I remember the Stuart brown you're on about, was he in our Erics class at school?
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No. Your Eric and I were in the clever class. Stew was with the all the thickos, including, and I hate to say it, Barrie.
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Uh oh! Cue Barrie!!
Replied: 8th Feb 2014 at 12:09
Dear oh dear I hope your not trying to antagonize me jarvo just like you do with some of the people on here, and your right I wasn't in the upper class in pem primary, furthermore I'm glad I was in the lower class because you were in the cissy class (with a few exceptions) playing with the girls and their dolls, that's why you went to Highfield and not pem boys ha ha.
I looked upon school as a precursor to life as an adult, now then with all that education you've had are you still working six days a week and still taking second hand furniture from anyone who wants to get rid of their old rubbish?
What's about you I hear you say, we'll I haven't done all the things I would have liked but I have represented Great Britain twice and designed my own house and organised the build of it, and if it's not worth twice the value of yours then I'll plat sh-t, but life isn't about wealth it's about friendship and happiness, now then I have lots of friends and I'm happy as Larry unlike you who has only one or two mates and is going to die a lonely old grouch and sooner than you think if someone tells Stew Brown about this thread ha ha. See you next week my mate.
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Well said Barrie xx I'll make sure stew brown sees this xx jarvo!!
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Barrie! Are you threatening jarvo on a public forum?
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Me and Stew were blood brothers...
Replied: 8th Feb 2014 at 18:42
Judith no I'm not threatening Jarvo I'm meeting him and Phil for a pint next Saturday in the 15 and I'm going to take his teddy off him.
Jarvo, and it's your blood he's going to have ha ha. Seriously jarvo if you see stew tell him to get up pem next Saturday.
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I will, Barrie, if he's around...Lovely lad Stew, always has been, always will be...
Replied: 9th Feb 2014 at 01:03
getting warm buddy they shared a garage for there coal waggon at the side of Enfeild club.
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Remember watching some of the 1970 world cup matches in Stew Browns house, in Highfield. Reason I know is that they were the only folk I knew with a COLOUR tele
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Whatever happened to Dave Harris?
Nice lad. We were good friends at Pem Primary.
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Rio, Stew had a colour tv long before they moved to Highfield, I remember they had one when they lived in thorburn rd and stew was messing about with his slug gun and he shot the new tele, then told his mum that their scot (the dog) had knocked the fire guard on to it, Mrs B believed him until the tv repair man pulled out the slug.
Jarvo, Dave lives in Bolton, he commented on photos, pem boys school. I'll email him and tell him about this thread .
Replied: 10th Feb 2014 at 10:29
I watched the 1970 mexico World Cup in a new laundromat they had just opened at the top of Pem.
it was the only way I was ever going the see the action in colour. It was to be many years until my Mum had the budget to buy a colour telly.
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The lad was told last night that's Sharon honkins has passed away.
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Yeah very sad 😔 Wednesday. She was 51
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Barrie, can't have been long before, the first colour broadcast in the UK was 1967
Very sad about Sharron, I found out on Friday.
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After everything she went through with her son as well, so sad.
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Rio, it must have been 67 when Mr B bought the tv, I think stew moved to Highfield in 68 when he was in his last year at Pem.
Rio, Jarvo I got an email from Dave Harris, he said when the weather gets a little warmer we will meet up, I will contact Phil Yeats and Fred Markey if you know anyone from our year tell them to look on here for my email
Phil, any excuse to have a warm and wash your thongs.
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My lads just phoned me and said Dennis Hilton passed away on Saturday, he was 57, I no a few of you knew him or other members of the hilton family, it was only 7months ago there Alf passed away. So, so sad
My condolences to the Hilton family.
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R.I.P. Dennis.
How sad. Eileen, Alf, and now Dennis.
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R.I.P. Dennis.
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Barrie: When you come up, bring Dave Harris with you.
Replied: 5th Mar 2014 at 17:07
Bump.
What's the latest on the Norley scene anyone got divorced,, re-married or has anyone sadly passed away.
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All quiet on the Norley front.
Replied: 7th May 2014 at 19:19
not heard any thing about any one ..wizzer.gladley no one else as passed away ...a lot of them are around my age ..it makes you think ?
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jarvo I'm sure I know you, I'm David Baybutt I think we went to school together. Didn't you have a cousin called Clifford who lived on Ormskirk RD? I remember you as a quite shy lad all those long years ago now, where does time go? looking back over the years is like looking back on a great holiday you've had, the memories are so precious to us now, memories of things, and people long gone now but they live as sweet ghosts in our minds. Bless them all and long may I remember.
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that's very nicely put Dave and so true
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Barry i dont no if you remember a girl called Mary Burrows Married A lad from Hellvellyn Road. his name was Tony she saddley passed away more than a week ago .took ill coming back from holiday ..Mary used to work behind the bar in The West Ward . many many years ago lovely girl ..also Maxine Athertons hubby Tony he died suddenly about a month ago he was from Marsh Green .Tony Hewlett do not know if any one new him from Norley another one taken to soon he was 55 that is all so sad a lovely lad never heard him say a wrong word about any one a really nice friend x
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Was Mary related to Florence Burrows?
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David Baybutt: Our Cliff was at my party on Saturday night. Thanks for remembering us.
Replied: 24th Jun 2014 at 18:08
yes Judy she was married to Florence's brother we are still friends after all these years . 52 all told since infant school.
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Rbilly, is Florence the sister of Angela?
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yes dodger do you know Angela then lovely lady
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yes dodger do you know Angela then lovely lady
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Yes I know her and her husband, I'm sad to say that a couple of weeks ago I heard some bad news about her.
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Dave Baybutt: where do you live, old friend?
Replied: 25th Jun 2014 at 15:42
Dodger sorry to say Angela passed away on Tuesday .so sad.. the second loss for the Parkinson ,Burrows and Makin families. RIP Mary and Angela .
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Rose, I remember Annie Burrows from the west and I know the name Mary Burrows but I can't put a face to it. I do remember a lady with ginger hair who worked in the west, I know she was a Burrow but I can't remember her fist name.
R.I.P to the people who have sadly passed.
Jarvo, David lives in that long street to the right of you.
Welcome to W.W. David you owd trout.
Replied: 26th Jun 2014 at 13:39
Very sorry to hear that Rbilly, I don't know how Bob will cope now.
The Burrows family used to be near neighbours of mine.
Replied: 26th Jun 2014 at 13:58
Bob is not very well either dodger he as been in hospital quiet poorley . grew up on norley do I know you dodger?
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I think I'm getting my memory back I've just remembered a friend who went in the west ward, John Kelly. We went to his mam's house one Christmas Eve after being in the west, and someone helped themselves to the turkey.
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I remember spending the most of the freezing winter in 1963 sledging on milk crates between Medway Walk and Sherwood Drive.
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billi lived on Medway in the 60's and remember sledging in the big freeze i had a chair back that my dad broke up for me to use . happy days
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Happy days coming out of Robert Lewis in the dark winter evening.
Nobody had owt in those days, and it wer cowd.
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Robert Lewis. Right next door to Saint Custard's
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I can remember mi mam knitting me a balaclava when I went to Pem Primary, I looked like one of the knights of the round table and it kept me warm, I can't see the kids of today doing that, they have to have the best clothes money can buy. We didn't have much money but when your a kid and nobody had much then, style didn't matter, or am I kidding myself?
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Barrie: I vaguely remember it. You started a fashion.
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My denim jeans used to have patches on top of patches.
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We used to walk it home up Norley Hall Ave on those freezing winter evenings after school, and it was dark.
Kids couldn't do it these days.
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Love this thread brought back a lot of memories and people I'd forgotten, I miss the old days
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Don't you wish you could go back to those times just for a while Carol.
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...Yes, and see again how simple life could be without having money.
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I do Barry - things weren't so bad back then were they? and yep life did seem simpler back then Jarvo
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At least we never ran out of jam butties.
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There is a very good web site dedicated to Norley.
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I know.
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I've just heard that Len Caddick who went in the West Ward and was a good snooker player has passed away. Can anyone confirm please?
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It was Eddie who passed away, wizzerwin.
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Bleedin eck! Thanks jathbee.
R.I.P Eddie, what a great lad.
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He was. Came as a real shock.
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wizz, eddie had been in hospital before he passed away, he went in the swan on a Sunday and passed away Wednesday morning. His family and close friends, who go in the swan, believe it was his own way of saying good bye.
Cuthberts church was packed with a couple of hundred in there, as was the swan later.
A nice, well liked lad.
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This fabulous thread has been going for nearly four years.
And some say Wiganworld has seen better days?
Behave yourself!
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Almost as long as this one then.
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Multi-coloured slop shop.
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It's such a smashing thread, I've just posted an recipe on there myself.
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You're next!
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hopefully.
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Thanks basil
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wizz did you know the griffins from devon close
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baker boy; the name is familiar but I can't put a face to the name.
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Didn't the Perry's live near there? Or was it Thorburn Ave?
That's where Stew Brown lived - Norley Pub end.
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Opposite the Peet's: Kenneth and Linda.
Replied: 27th Jan 2017 at 18:09
rbilley was one of the main posters on wigan world. What has happened to her.
Replied: 27th Jan 2017 at 18:54
hi anyone remember a pat barry(barrie),not sure how its spelt.she lived next door to that chemist at the top of norley any help please .thanks
Replied: 27th Jan 2017 at 19:05
HIYA folks Im back not had a lap top and it is hard to post on my phone been a long time hope all is well with every one
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Hiya, Rose. All is well.
Welcome home.
Replied: 30th Jan 2017 at 05:31
Glad your back dude.
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Thank you both . Jarvo and Barry xhave I missed any thing lol
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This:
The sun has dropped over the rooftops of Gloucester Road as the boys of Pemberton Primary trot down to St Cuthbert's to play the auld enemy.
They look splendid in their gold and black shirts as they go past. It is early autumn and soon the nights will draw in. I am going the other way, home through Wiltshire Place and up Norley. I am still at Robert Lewis and the happiest days of my young life are coming to an end: soon we will make the move to Pem Primary, the two schools merging as one.
As I cross Ormskirk Road, my throat is already sore, and within three weeks I will feel the beginnings of the illness that will lay me low and put my young life at risk.
The schools are coming out and everywhere kids are heading home. It is September, 1963, and a time that I will never forget. The midnight fire will soon burn, night after night, casting ghostly shadows on the wall...
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wizzer and judyteen her name was Christine griffin
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The Norley I knew as a child and young man has changed a hell of a lot now. Many of the characters, friends, and even family are gone, along with some buildings and remembered landmarks. There has been many changes over the sixty odd years since my birth at number one Helvellyn Rd. But as long as I live, so will they all, with not a single change.
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judyteen
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i lived in norley in 1965 humber place worst place god made i couldn't get out fast enough i did 6 month and bought my own house
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was it worse than the white houses?
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bowt time Wigan Council cut losses and Nuke the swamp at Norley as Donald would say
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norley and marsh green etc in the seventies where full of nice people,every district had a few bad apples.
nowadays, these estates are a dumping ground for waifs and strays from any where on the planet.
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Well said baker boy! people can say what they want now, but at that time there was much more of a community spirt than there is today. Yes there were some bad eggs, there is even on some private estates now. There is much more fear in living everywhere now, than what there was then.
Replied: 4th Feb 2017 at 11:32
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We walked home from school on our own, up Norley Hall, every night, and even in the dark and foggy winters.
No trouble, no danger.
Happy times havin' nowt, and all in the same boat.
Replied: 4th Feb 2017 at 17:45
What was the problem with the people in Humber Place watchalot?
I knew/know some cracking people from H.P. at the time you state, some who come on here, in fact I may know you.
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We walked home from school on our own, up Norley Hall, every night, and even in the dark and foggy winters.
No trouble, no danger.
Happy times havin' nowt, and all in the same boat.
Replied: 4th Feb 2017 at 17:45
All in the same boat? I think not. Some had little and some had less, it's always been so.
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Yes, and miners and their families had loads...
Always well paid, for face or surface work, their coal sheds were full to bursting.
While others, who worked considerably harder in mills and factories, were ripped off by coal merchants making a fortune charging them double price per bag.
I'm glad you posted that.
Perks of the job, eh?
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Talking crap as usual. My dad was a miner and we had bugger all apart from a shed full of coal, the excess of which he gave away to neighbour's, so don't tell me about how well off we were. It was only in later years that the miners were better off thanks to a good strong union Ye Gods, you are one mean minded, jealous owd sod.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 19:26
We definitely had bugger all when the miners strike was on.
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Rubbish. Miners never gave coal away. Not in our street they didn't.
The irony being: the 'strong' union were divided.
The rest as they say is history.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 19:33
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If your dad had the same mean minded attitude you have I'm not surprised they didn't give your family any. I lived on Norley and we shared what little we had and so did our none miner neighbour's.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 19:44
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My dad worked all his life and died before he made retirement age.
He was head hunted by all the major construction giants and was NEVER out of work.
There wasn't a mean bone in his body.
God bless.
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Pity you didn't inherit his traits them.
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Funny enough, I did.
You know NOTHING about me.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 19:52
the two J'S battling again,jarvo seems to have a bee in his bonnet about miners can you be more explicit.
I would never have been employed in mining under ground.i think they deserved their money just for walking into the cage.
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Funny enough, I did.
You know NOTHING about me.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 19:52
I think we all know what you are.
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No bee, just facts about an industry that never moved with the times.
The miners got lost in their own self importance. They thought the country couldn't manage without them; and for a dark time in the early seventies, we were held to ransom. How wrong they were.
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I think your opinion of miners are well documented on here and I have yet to hear another voice in support of your opinions. But you are entitled to them.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 20:20
you cant blame folk for trying to protect themselves from the dole,arthur scargill apart,miners where generally not troublesome.
trying to protect you and your family against a government that decided coal was old hat and not needed in its then present form is a bitter pill to swallow.
being unemployed for the over forties that knew nothing else but coal,in those days must have been very worrying.
all my friends who where miners about 4 or 5 of em never displayed any self importance.
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Niether did the ones who I knew and that was quite a lot, if anything they were self depreciating.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 20:31
Can you lot take you're petty little arguments on another thread, do you know how sad you look.
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It's quite clear who the main antagonist is .
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During the fogs of the early sixties, the area around Robert Lewis became smog.
Visibility was a few feet, it was so bad.
At four o'clock the kids were allowed out. It was fun for us as we crept slowly home, alone.
How times change. No smogs and a thousand grand parents (in cars) picking up their grand children...
Take me back.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 22:14
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"My dad worked all is life"
Should that not read "his"?
I'll expect a sly edit now it's been pointed out considering you're the grammar and spelling police.
Practice and preaching!
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 22:54
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Norley was buzzing with kids back in the day. A war was raging with rival gangs from one street or another. Territorial feuds and stone throwing were common. We had May queens, with the lads dressed as cowboys or Indians with the odd Davey Crocket thrown into the mix, girls dressed as faires, gypsies or queens, parties on grass verges, with ambrosia of the gods, consisting of jam butties, fairy cakes and fizzy pop.
Bommy neet was a special time of year. Us kids would go door knocking for flammable materials which were dragged, pushed and heaved to the chosen site. We told tales of horror around the yet unlit bommy and posted guards to defend from the bommy raiders. We sat on freezing cold steps and pavements for hours on end begging 'A penny for the guy' to buy sparklers and penny bangers for the big night.
Apart form Christmas it was the most magical time of year for us dirty faced, ragged arsed, kids.
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Sorry, I can't be bang on on every time.
It was rushed in the eat of the moment.
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We were never dirty. And mi mum would NEVER dress us in rags.
Are you talking about Glasgow?
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Jarvis, if you want a true picture of Norley, read the above post.
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John, if you don't mind.
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We were never dirty. And mi mum would NEVER dress us in rags.
Are you talking about Glasgow?
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 23:11
Did you live on Norley?
We played out in old clothes our best were saved for school and church. Dirty? Of course we were, Norley was still a building site when we moved there. I was aged three and we had moved from the slums in Scholes. We had a proper bath in our brand new council house, not a tin one, so us kids were given a nice hot bath due to a coal fired back boiler.
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John, if you don't mind.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 23:12
Is Jarvis not your given name?
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No.
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So it's not John Jarvis then?
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Is it heck...Do you think I'd put my personal details on here?
Come on...
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 23:38
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If you can't be "bang on" every time then don't pull others up for bad grammar and spelling.
People in glass houses etc etc
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Yes. Don't tell porkies. Don't forget I was in the pub when it was your birthday and you were called up to the 'podium', to do your warbling. "Come on Jarvo". And you expect folks to take you seriously? Do me a favour.
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The hodd spelling mistake his ok, but know excuse for bad grammar.
Replied: 5th Feb 2017 at 23:54
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Jarvo is my pen and stage name. I've used it since my cabaret days at Batley.
Some things stick.
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Pen name, stage name. Do me a favour. 🎭 Are you sure you are not Darren in in disguise.😂
People even know where you live let alone your name. Thanks to your indiscretions and faux pas.
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On what date did the West Ward finally close its doors to the good folk of Norley?
Late eighties?
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It's quite clear who the main antagonist is .
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yes it is, Backtrack jathbee
Replied: 6th Feb 2017 at 11:03
tomjackal and jarvo, I'm a bit late to the game but I was told about this thread recently and if someone remembered the Atherton girls. There were eight in the brood.
Yvonne (died 2019)
Christine (died 2018)
Frances (died 1997)
Lorraine
Jeanette
Maxine (died 2015)
Melanie
Tracey
Martha died in 2002 and Arthur way back in 1978.
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Anyone remember the Wednesday night Rock and Roll nights at West Ward Labour Club in the sixties?
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The Eric Farimond who is mentioned did he have grey hair when he was young and did he have one brown eye and one blue,reason for asking is we worked with each other until he went to jail, I am not from Norley but I recognise some names Stuart Brown worked at Parkside colliery driving a J C B, anyone know Betty Fleming.. and rbilly, you won't find another Rose,
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Anyone remember the Wednesday night Rock and Roll nights at West Ward Labour Club in the sixties?
used to remember the fighting every weekend
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