Hawkley Hall: Farm?

Please does anyone know if there was a farm attached to Hawkley Hall around the 1890-1900s? If so, who owned the Hall and would they have rented out the farm to tenants?

Thanks!

Have you looked in British History Online?

The family that built Hawkley hall was the Moleneux family I think they were relatives of Lord Derby from Knowsley who were the Stanley family I think they were related by marriage.The hawkley estate was large so there probably was a farm attached to it.The last people to own it I dont know the names of, Wigan history shop will know.

Thank you both - British History On-line was helpful, right up to the point I needed to know about! I have mailed the History Shop (at least, I think I have!) to see if they have any information.

I went to Junior School with a girl called Dorothy Jameson who lived at that farm in the 50's. It was at the very end of what is now Carr Lane Hawkley Hall. It was just fields at that time.

Ah ha - so there WAS a farm! Thank you. Now how to find out who owned it around 1900 ...

hi i am looking for any information about the history of the old Hawkly Hall and its connection to the old Ben Jonson pub at the top of Fulbeck Ave. Thanx

I wouldn't think there would be a connection between the Hall and the pub, any more than the pub was built on land held by the same people who held the hall. Hawkley Hall has links with Croxteth Hall. Hawkley was part of Pemberton and is covered in Pemberton's History. Pemberton/Hawkley

Tonker, Many thanks for the information regarding Pemberton/Hawkley. There is mention of the Holland family going back to around the time that my brother and I have traced back to. The name Moulinex could possibly be part of it as well.

I used to spend a lot of time at Hawkley Hall Farm,being at school with the Jameson children. Frank,Barbara and the youngest Dorothy.

I never knew there was a connection with the Ben Jonson,but there was a disused driveway that ran to join the main road near to the Ben Jonson, this driveway had a gate at the end that was kept locked.
This driveway,Iwas told was, in the olden days, the main driveway of the house.
The locked gate was a grand afair,made of Metal spiked railings,like these reproduction cemetary gates posher houses have today.
This driveway was never used,the only access was from the end of what is now known as Carr Lane.

Was it the Frank Jameson who had the shops?

Tonker,
I lost touch with Frank when we grew up,but I did hear he had a shop in Ashton and was a member of Orrell R.U.
I did see his Father in Weymouth,1981,and was suprised that he still remembered me and knew my name.
It was him who told me what had happened to Hawkley Hall.

I used to go with my dad up to the old Hawkley Hall. He used to be the water bailiff for the "three ponds" and had to make sure they weren't over fished and that nobody without a permit was fishing. Mr Jameson always gave us a big bag of the small hard pears off the trees that lined the road to the Hall.

Hi lulabelle, just read your profile how long have you lived in Highfield?

pm my dad used to live in the cottages that where the old ben johnson pub

yes there was a farm atached to hawkley hall .the farm and the hall belonged to the jameson family and my father was the head farmer for them and we used to live on the farm in a cottage .we lived there for 8 years .

hi alisonbate in your photos that you've put on in one of them is the some of the lads keith and david houghton frank adamson and teddy benson i may be wrong but thought i'd ask out of curiosity

lesandgeorge....do you remember your sisters friend oggy??? well guess who? I remember you living on the farm when we went to St. Joseph's school. I remember your mum and dad well... How is Jean? Didn't she move to New Zealand?

the origanal ben johnsons pub was the old cottages next door you can see it on the side of the wall

alison i am married to dennis who lived next door to your dad in the cottages

Has anyone any pictures of Hawkley Hall?

I went to School in the 90's at Hawkley Hall High School now just round the corner to where the Old Hall once stood. I never remember the actual Hall but we did go on a field trip (Up the road) to see what was let over. I remember seeing 2 doors that where once in the cellar about 20 Yds from the old gate posts that lead into a tunnel that was padlocked. Our history teacher at the time told us that they led up to the Old Ben Johnson Pub (Cottage). Is there any evidence to support this theory?

what is the old cottage just off marus ave hawkley which i have heard has just bin sold to build houses on.

Alison did a fellow called Bill Evans live in the cottages

wink2. its called delph house farm.

Who remembers Hawlky Hall Powder Works. Explosives not ladies.

Wasn't there an explosion at the Powderworks around mid 50's time ?

Going back to Hawkley Farm's workers cottages,Ican remember the two children who lived in one around 1953
Sylvia Mc.Hue and her brother I think was Tommy.
They went to St,Josephs.
Are you one of those children?

Hawkley Hall

I live on Hawkley Hall and we have found the remains of walls belonging to the old Powder Works in our back garden. Needless to say that they will will be staying there

Hi Susie can i just ask where bouts on Hawkley your house is please? My partners grandma used to work at the powder works and i'm just trying to find out as much as i can about it as I grew up on Ashby Road and had never even heard of it, i thought at first it must of been somewhere near to where to school now is but I have just read on another site that the entrance to the works was roughly where the co-op is now, so I'm guessing the house I've grown up in must of been (in a really freaky way) built on the very same land she been on about. please help if you can??

......Sylvia Mc.Hue and her brother I think was Tommy......

I remember Tom McHue from St Joseph's school he will be about 66 now

wink2 Is this the one on the corner of Cranfield.

my mother in law is jack jamesons stepdaughter,pat.

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Powder Works, Hawkley Hall and the 3 Ponds.

m155hel1. Ilive on Rosley Rd.Just round the corner from you.We have lived here for 18 years. The garden was a mess when we moved in and we have a very very long garden. We don't have anything at the back of the garden just the Scotsmans Flash etc. When we attempted to do something with the garden we came across a path that turned out to be what we think was part of the walls of the old Powder works. We started to dig and couldn't seem to get to the bottom of it, needless to say it is still there but is now under Decking

Any pics of the old Ben Johnson cottages or Hawkley Hall area and powder works?

ther were secret passages from the hall into wigan parish church so i was told

passages a throw back to civil war ,has wigan was royalist.no passages unearthed and very long way to parish church.hall never looked like artist ,s impression .looked more like falling down/run down.did have large cellars ,possibly family where catholic and ,so my have had a priest,s hole,thus explaining legend of passage,s. i,m long time worsley mesnes hawkley hall resident.was small explosion at powder works in 50,s,designed for blast protection,ie very high earth walls round every building.