Badges of Wuigan

Is it possible to get like a Blazer badge of oh cannot think of the word like the emblam oh whats the word ggggggrrrrrrrgggggrI am looking for ,and where should I apply for one , I want to send one to my son in Oz

The Coat of Arms, Elizabeth?

what you mean the coat of arms,,ancient and loyal, yes you can get them from the warriors shop.

you beat me to it jo anne. i was still typing when you posted

I think I've found all the Wigan Warriors' ones online, Tom.

I've sent an email to WLCT to ask if a blazer badge of Wigan's, and/or The Metropolitan Borough of Wigan's, Coat of Arms is available, too.

Elizabeth,
I would think that STANDARDS at 11 The Wiend would have a template of the Wigan coat of arms for an embroidered blazer badge.
I got some from there years ago.

The true coat of arms of Wigan is the 'Ancient & Loyal' crest proudly worn on the shirts of Wigan Warriors.

Long may it remain!

[removed, brian.]

Do WE have to like Wigan Rugby? Gordon Bennett...
Check out another thread from last night and edit that...Attila...

Good Lord. Is there any need?

They are all badges / coats of arms of Wigan. The OP asked for Wuigan !

Brian.

Thank you from a Wiganer.

THE ANCIENT AND LOYAL COAT OF ARMS DATES FROM THE 1920'S PREVIOUS TO THAT wIGAN DID NOT HAVE A COAT OF ARMS IT'S BADGE WAS THE SEAL DEPICTING THE MOOT HOUSE.
(sorry about caps)

wiganyankeeron presented Mr Wigan World(Brian)with an old Wigan coat of arms,at a meet-up we had in the Royal Oak last year for the hard work he had done on this site,maybe Brian could upload a photo of it here for us all to see

Whats Wuigan

better badge to get through the tonker problem

Images Here,Here and Here

Whoops! and Here !

'Wigan' doesn't have a Coat of Arms.

The ones referred to here are the Coats of Arms of the LOCAL AUTHORITY (local government - THE COUNCIL if you will)

Who, in their right mind, would want to walk around displaying the 'badge' of a council like ours? Why display the arms of the council you love to hate?

You're all daft!

its not your Council tonks,you are a yikker

oh dear Tonker you are yet again spouting rubbish.
The <Ancient and Loyal > coat of arms was granted by the college of heralds in 1922 following the request from the then council-that is where the <for the alderman, mayor> etc comes in -not for their personal use ,but in representation of the town.
The representation of the town can easily be seen ,for those who famaliarise themelves with armorial meanings.
The town is well represented on the coat of arms with images dating back to the medieval era, at least.

Congratulations, Vera, on spouting the same (true) rubbish as me!

YES, as I SAID, the 'coat of arms' belongs to THE COUNCIL and NOT to Wigan.

By the way, those who 'familiarise themslves with armorial meanings' will know that a council's arms are merely 'CIVIC HERALDRY', not ARMS (in the true sense).

Keep taking the Wigan Pills, Vera. You're getting dafter by the minute!

Sorry about the Heading --Wuigan -- but didnt and do not know how to correct it
Thank you all for the info , my mind as gone into Limbo I think , Monday had the washing machine go to the scrap yard heaven
then 2 weeks ago the Computer did the same thing (this is a new one ).
and last night found the Fridge /Freezer had gone to the scrap yard heaven .
also last night cost me 69 pounds plus VAT for the Vet to get a Bone that had got stuck on one of my pets tooth off,
and its pouring down with rain and Blo--- COLD as well
thats me for now
and still looking for another car

Never mind Elizabeth. At least you're not in Leigh.

You can't edit the title of a thread. Once it's on, that's it.

History of Wigan Town
Wigan was an important Roman military station, known as Coccium; it lay on the Roman road from Warrington and Chester to the north, and close to the road from Manchester.

Wigan was granted its first royal charter in 1246, making it one of the four oldest boroughs in Lancashire – Manchester was only a village while Wigan was an important royal borough!

The Romans however developed a midden on it's outskirts for the lower classes & named it:

HAYDOCK

I bet they had an interesting badge.

Fossil, many thanks
Joe Ann also many thanks and to all who offered me advice ,

I think it measns Original Poster Elizabeth.

WHOOPS sorry

Hello Elizabeth - I made the same mistake as you.

I have just got a reply from Wigan's Tourist Information Centre:

I have contacted our history shop regarding your enquiry. However they are unable to find everyone who can supply you with the crests.

We have found images of the crest online (wikipedia). We wondered if it would be possible for you to ask to have the images embroidered. A local school supplier, Slater's, does embroidery for work wear and may possibly be able to help you.

If I find out any further information regarding the coat of arms I will contact you. If you have any further enquiries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Art, according to the Academics of Roman Studies, and going off the Antonine Itinerary, Wigan was NOT 'Coccium' at all!

It's just a rumour!

However, there's no point in explaining the historical importance of Wigan, as I already know. But, the fact still remains that Wigan (the place) doesn't have a 'coat of arms'.
It's governing authority (the council) had, but they haven't got one anymore.

Read what a 'borough' is, and what a borough 'was' back in 1246.

Tonker ive geet a coat with no arms it's called a body warmer!!!

I look forward to buying your book, 'An Historical insight into the Town of Wigan, its Boroughs and boundaries, Tonker.

Your jerkin!

No, I'm using both hands to type!

Whay aye man.

Ah, not to me.

I meant the sleeveless jacket you deviant!

I thought you were asking if the statement was serious in a Welsh accent.

Sounds a bit more like Liz McDonald "Your Jerkin arn't ya Steve?"

Not the way you typed it. More like Neville off that Auf Wiedersehen documentary about builders.

Am gannin yam!

And you called t'other mon a 'deviant'.

Gannin

That's that Ola Tombola chappie isn't it?

Or is it Jones the Zulu?

You're thinking of Evans the Tuber.

Note Mrs Evans' smile.

no Tonker -read what I said -it does not belong to the council at all.
I don't care if you think I spout rubbish or not ,your opinion is no good to me.
I did proove you wrong about the Lancashire bit.
Although Wigan has not been confirmed as Coccium ,it is the best probability.

Well as there seems to be some controversy about a Coat of Arms what is it thats on a heading of a Official Paper when e the Council issue something regarding a bye law or similar
I am sure I have seen one somewhere. just a thought what was on the Mesnes Park Gates before they went to the War effort ? .didnt they have a Insignia on the gates

They're still there Elizabeth. The gates were re-instated as they were never used for the war effort.

Wondered what you deleted Dostaf - 2mins and 10 seconds . Is the insignia still there on the gates then .

Yes Elizabeth.

I didn't delete, I edited a spelling error. (There to they're)

Seems a lot of the 'war effort' stuff went to waste. Dumped at sea, I think. The main point of the excercise was to give folk the feeling of doing their bit.

Vera, and anyone else who doesn't know, ....

A 'place' cannot hold a coat of arms. Any (official) coat of arms, insignia, badge etc., must belong to a person, group of people etc..
Wigan itself does not hold, and never has held, a coat of arms.

The local authority holds a coat of arms, currently the coat of arms is for the ENTIRE Metropolitan Borough, which means it's the COMBINED coat of arms for the fourteen town councils that make up the Metropolitan Borough Council.

The previous coat of arms was awarded to the local authority of Wigan County Borough, which was a union of both Wigan AND Pemberton town councils.

So there, Vera, it DOES belong to the council, and that's telling you!

PS. You're correct in saying "Wigan has not been confirmed as Coccium". That's because it can't be, because it wasn't!

Academics of Roman Studies, from several Univerities, have observed the distances recorded in the Antonine Itinerary and concluded that the nearest location of Coccium, to Wigan, would be somewhere between Blackrod and Adlington. Others say it shows further to the north-east, towards Belmont.
Of course, some Roman activity took place where Wigan stands today, as it did all around England, but historic records show that it wasn't called 'Coccium'.

Photo by Dave Marsh

Here

Above = Sigillum commune villæ et burgi de Wigan.

Translated = 'The Seal of the Authority and Manor of Wigan'.

Teeeeeeeeeeeeeth!

Thanks for that Dostaf

You're welcome Elizabeth.

So it's the seal rather than the coat of arms that's on the gate.

hows this one look ? dave

Hello Dave

Click on Dave's name to see badge.

Hello and welcome, Davefire1.

thanks dustaf wondered where it had gone dave

If you look at the top left of the page and click on 'davefire's wiganworld' you can put it as an avatar Picture at the left of the post on here). also if you have the address code for it, you can put it on here as a link, or an image on the post.

Thats more what I am looking for , Dave apart from the Fire Brigade, but can I get for a blazer or shirt

Would THIS ONE not do, Elizabeth? They'd all think you were an official Wiganer if you had that sewn on your coat pocket!

And what exactly, is an "official Wiganer"?

Sorry. I think I meant a 'Wigan Official'!

that must be one of the most embarassing badges to wear .

You mean like a prefect Tonker?

Kind of thing, dostaf. All those badges / insignias mean the same thing anyway, 'Authority Over Wigan' and not 'Wigan', as many seem to think.
As antar has expressed above, who'd want to promote Wigan Council?

A fair point.

So from a display of civic pride on one's blazer, we could actually be admitting to being council property.

Prison arrows will be next.

Prison arrows will be next.

I can't see that happening with any real conviction, Dustaf.

Learned something new. 'Broad Arrow'

From Heraldry To Trees

PERHAPHS ALL THE BLAZER BADGES AT THE CENOTAPH ON REMEMBERANCE SUNDAY AND BRITISH OLYMPIC BLAZOR BADGES COME IN TO THE SAME CATEGORY? JUST TRYING TO HELP DAVE

quite right dustaf she isn't in Leigh, if she had been in Leigh we would have been able to learn her how to spell the name of her Town

They removed the towns true Coat of Arms in the 1920's by replacing the Moot Hall one.

The Coat of Arms can still be seen above the current Town Hall, Old Town Hall, History Shop, inside the Parish Church and on Mesnes Park Gates.

Anywhere else?

There used to be a cracking Ancient And Loyal on an electrical substation building (I think that was what it contained) as you went through (outwards)Poolstock on the left.

Elizabeth,
I have spoken to the young chap in Standards Wigan495305 and they still supply hand made badges with the WIGAN coat of arms.
It is very expensive for a single badge in the region of £30 to have one made.

Peawapp said, 'if she had been in Leigh we would have been able to learn her how to spell the name of her Town'


In that tense, it's 'teach' not learn. Did they not 'teach' thee owt in Leyth?

Explorations, get it right. You're referring to 'the borough seal', Wigan council didn't have a 'coat of arms' until 1922.

Thank you Fossil thats a bit steep but will think about it , wonder if there is a Embroidery transfer and could do my own ha ha
Tonker, you got before me regarding the -learn-teach, and if he had seen posting earlier I had apologized for the heading . having aquired a new computer the key board is very sensative to the touch and thats why it came out wrong, it seems you only have to breathe on it for it to make a mistake , and I couldn't correct it once completed . I just thought it would be nice for my son as then when wearing it anyone else from this area would be able to say " Hello".Similar to when he wears his T T tee shirt (he used to ride his vintage bike) people always stop for a chat, and its nice for him so far from home ,yes I am a softy Mum and don't want him to feel lonely , oh go on and now say ahh I dont care

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Sorry Mac and Krryton when I open what you have underlined it comes up == error cannot show ???????? but thanks anyway
I am sure when visiting I have seen Rugby players with a badge on their blazers or am Idreaming

I think I will write to the Coun cil at the Town Hall if they are AWAKE

Howard Gallimore has such a badge on his blazer.

It could be worthwhile e-mailing him.

Details here.


Nice chap too.

BUGGER!

That Robin Williams older Brother?

Yes, I always think that when I have a chat with him.

(Howard, not Robin. I'm not that well connected )

Or hung, according to Howard.

That'll teach me to use the cubicle instead of the stones.

He really is a nice bloke.

No need

When I was in my teens my mother bought me a "blue blazer" and I had the "WIGAN COAT OF ARMS" put on it looked the dog's bollocks, so that's my suggestion you wont go far wrong with that badge.