Rifleman Inn, Caroline Street, Ince

Does anybody know where I can find a photograph of the Rifleman Inn on Caroline Street in Ince?

My GG Grandfather was the Landlord there around 1891, I know it was still standing in 1925 but I don't know what's happened to it since.

the pub was still there in 1968 but it was knocked down shortly after, have you tried old photos on wigan world, they could have one.

I used to go in there on Saturday nights when i was courting

The address was 23 Caroline street. Streets are still there but with new houses on them.

I know, I've looked on Google but can't seem to find any old photographs, I've got the 1907 maps but they don't seem to show its exact location either.

Jacqueline, do you have any photos taken outside from your courting days?

There's a pub shown on the corner of Caroline St / Ashton St on the 1928 map!

That should be it, who publishes the 1928 map?

yes thats the one on corner of ashton st

try wigan history shop, they have photos and maps, and should be able to help you for a small fee.

iv been trying to think of some of the landlords but i cant think of any

Matthew Baron 1881 and Henry Holcroft 1925

I remember it sort of, I was born in 13 Caroline Street

I remember the rifleman, it was on a corner facing my grandads house, caroline st. .

The maps are available from HERE - it's Alan Godfrey Maps - same as the 1907.

The History Shop (in the library) are in the process of ordering more . . . I did it directly from the site it, next day delivery, £2.25 per map and 75p p&p per order!

I lived round the corner in Peel St and I worked and drank there in the 60s.

i was born in caroline st then lived in peel st

Caroline Street 1907.

gaffer the caroline st were on about was in higher ince

Sorry Marie, here is the Ince location.

yes thats the one know it like the back of my hand

Has anybody got any photo's?

bob and emily had it from 1965- 1968. a local couple called little joe and betty tomlinson ( not married ) run it till it closed, not sure of the date. this info is from my mum, if she remembers any more i will put it on the thread. my parents had the shovel and broom pub just up the street from the rifleman and where friends with bob and emily.

Jack and elsie before bob and emily


Marieq69 what years did you live in caroline and peel st???

i lived in caroline st till i was 7 moved to peel st in 46 till 59

I was born in Peel St and Im a year younger than you.

did you live in the first house at the botton of the street??

small world eh

no i lived at 26 next door to birchalls were didyou live

Nm 10 next to the wall.

is it kathleen

yes did you have a brother and sister.??

yes your mam and my mam used to like a drink together .talk about a blast from the past

OMG marie that brings backsome memories.
talk about the good old days, we had some laughs.

I hope you are keeping well.

they dont party like that now.do you still in wigan how are you i cant grumble but my husbands not in good health.iv not moved far i live in scholes

They dont know how to enjoy themselves these days without fighting.

I have lived in Shopshire for over 24 years now, I still come up to Wigan, my children and grandchildren are still up there.

well kathleen you know wot me mam was like she liked a bit of bother

I know marie but the morning after she was ok with it all.

when I think what it was like, it's a wonder we survived it all.

my mam ( bless her ) is dead. is your Mam still alive and how is Sylvia.

mam died 14 yrs ago sylvia died 3yrs ago age 60.your right kathleen they were tough times but happy we survived

It bring a smile to my face as I remember some of the antics.
But I wont start reminising on here.

we should write a book kathleen nobody would believe it

we should do a cathrine cookson.

My aunty Jessie Collier from John St used to go in the Rifleman and she had great times in there dancing and singing. Loved going in there with her .Anyone remember her

i remember her she used to do sewing for people .did she have 2 sons bill and frank who played for wigan

I remember her as well. later on in life we use to live by one of her sons in platt bridge, one of my daughters use to play with her grand-daughter

Yes she did have Frank and Bill and also Evelyn. They are all dead sadley now . I lived in caunce St near St Catherines but I was always in John St I loved it.Happy days

my friend lived in john st near you aunts her name was brenda jessies husband worked in the pit with my stepdad his sister ginnie lived in peel st

Marie was that jinnie who lived next door to us.??/

yes molinuex .her maiden name was collier

I never knew that,
I knew betty, mollie , and tommy

i can still remember everyone in peel st .tommy wasthe same age as me

Lydia
The grand-daughters name was Gillian.
She had a elder sister named Julie.

i lived at no 16 Peel St next door to Jimmy Crompton & Mrs Ralphs

I remember you and the family Sandra.

Kayleigh Thats right Gillian married a minister and went to live in America and then germany. I don,t know where she is now. Julie is still in Wigan

sandra was your dad an ice cream man did you have a sister edith she used to play with my sister sylvia

you on the right ones Marie

what happened to the ashcrofts? they lived in the house that Sandra's family moved into.

marie yes my dad was the ice cream man Billy Prescott, my sister is edith but i dont no who she used to play with i'll ask her when i see her

we lived next to the entry do you not remember mrs abram

yes i remember mrs abram & mrs darbyshire & mrs possey's shop at the bottom of the street, can't remember the lady's name who had a 3 wheel car

mrs abram was my mam it was mrs darby not darbyshire and the woman in the car was mary birchall

wasnt sure if it was darby or not, i remember mary birchall now , small world lol,

i think ashcrofts bought an house in pemberton never heard of them again.we have all got good memories they dont even know thier next door nieghbours these days

marie69,are you marie prior

yes i am, dont recognise your name

marie69,you wont know this one marie, does rita brown ring any bells

yes she went to rosebridge lived off manchester rd

thats me marie,lived at no.6 bridgewater st.how is mary birchall.do you remember theresa kelly,we were talking about you last night in the club.

saw marys sister she said mary dosent get out much but shes ok.is your hubby DENISES brother

yes she is marie.how do you know her

im barnys auntie

im barnys auntie

gosh what a coincedence.nice to talk to you,i know where to find you now

same here rita its a small word

I remember Teresa kelly, was she kathleen kenyons sister??

i think this one is teresas daughter she had two teresa and barbara

Caroline Steet 1952 - 1962, the Edwards family on the corner of John Street, Foster family lived opposite, Jarvis family lived on the corner of Wray Street and a family named Burrell (sp) lived down John Street. McGrath family lived at the top of the hill, Keogh family lived opposite.
Names ring any bells?

did the holdens live in john street in the sixties, johnny a drummer and singer, used to hang around with him for a short spell.

i remember gambles harvys swifts scrivins starkys mcoombs just to name afew

Joan & Bill Reynolds lived in John Street, on the left as you wlked down the street, next to the entry that led you to the "Clarry".

regans and porters chippendals parrys leatherbarows all lived in john st

Winrow family lived down Ashton Street same side as the Rifle.

you must be an incer to know all these

Born in Caroline Street, now in the Pacific North West of the United States of America

Hi James Carruthers
Did you use to live in Spring View and was your mums name Hetty

come on stuart give me a clue i must know you

Hill family from Peel Street, Morris (Maurice) is about my age.
I think the Galvin family lived opposite the Rifle, and I'm pretty sure the Ollerton family lived in Caroline Street also, not sure where.

hi linda.i sure did

hill family lived in edward st i lived in peel st

hill family lived in edward st i lived in peel st

I stand corrected.

[come on who are you

I left 13 Caroline Street in 1961, we won't know each other.

I should know you as well stuart.

xxstuartxx,did you know ken birchall who lived in caroline street

James:
Ken Birchall doesn't ring any bells, I was only 6 when we moved from Caroline Street

I recall him, but I think he was more my brothers age.

you must have lived near swifts

Don't recall the name.

I Marie Long time on see Its like being back in Peel St again .I was with our Mildred and Walter and all the Family last week at my Mums funeral and this week all old friends .And if you write a book can I be in it ,nice to hear from you all

hi Ken another blast from the past this thread has brought back some memories good and bad its been nice hearing from you

Our Mary doesn't get out much these days so I am told I must get up to see her (but Sandra if Walter Rutter is in your Family Tree then Mary is your relation as well, because Mary is my cousin and her Mother was my Dad's Sister and Walter was our Grandad.
Marie how is your old man? I believe he is not too good- hope things get better for you. Sorry to hear about your Sylvia I didn't know it's not too good to lose your younger Sister, I know my sister Anne died 7 years ago.Looking back your Mum was a card but a very loving person

i knew your annehad died walts wife told me sad when their young.my hubby doesnt get out he has a lot of problems he is fed at night through an hickman line but hes still here thats a blessing.i did some pics of chopper naylor for his mum saw you on a lot of them

Hi James do remember my brother Jimmy Higham
and my mum was friendly with your Mum

hi linda,yes i knew your jimmy very well.not seen him for a few years though.tell him bin asking about him

I was born in ashton st in 1954 next to the chapel. xxStuartxx how do you know my family? These are a few of my relatives from ashton st,John & Nellie Winrow(parents) John, colin, ken, Ian Winrow (brothers)Edmond & Peggy Swain (Uncle & Aunt) Marjory Taylor nee Swain & Doreen Griffin nee swain (cousins)Jimmy Taylor(cousin) Jimmy, Sandra, Christine,Sharon Darren, & Wayne Taylor (2nd cousins)and from Johns st, Evelin higgson (aunt) Derek Higgson (cousin)

I knew your brother Colin winrow he used to be friends with my X husband.
Your mam,dadand family used to lived opposite my grandmother and my auntnext door.

Barry, we used to knock around together before we left for Darlington Street, circa 1961, long time ago. In later years, 1974-1976 a followed Wigan Colts, Terry Touhey, Ronnie Dootson, George Nolan, Johnny Kerfoot et al.

wizzerwin i remember all these names do you remember paddy foy and mary and bibbys

kayleigh, what was your X's name your grans & aunt names?
xxstuartxx you know me well give me a little time I'll sus it.
marieq69 paddy foy lived a few doors from us, mary foy was like a sister to me she lives in scholes now I think, and the bibby family lived opposite they had a pen at the bottom of ashton st I remember them well

Hi James will be seeing our JIm soon when we come over from Australia for a holiday in June butwill let him know that you have been asking about him

.barry you probably remember my sister sylvia abram she mated with mary .saw mary last week shes still in scholes

hi linda, didnt know you lived in aussie.whereabouts do you live,jimmy

wizzerwin,ask your john does he remember a rita brown,i remember him as jackie,rita

marieq69 sorry I can't remember any of mary's friends I was very young when we left Ince.
Rita everybody called him Jackie not to confuse with his dad. I will tell him about you when I see him.

wizzerwin. ex Taffy. grand parents - seddons,

aunt - veasey

kayleigh, don't remember your x. seddons did they live next to the entry? I remember Joe Veasey, Didn't he have a daughter named susan.

HI James
We live in Metung which is Victoria we use to Llive in Frankston but semi retiried to Metung we are five hours drive from Melbourne been in OZ for twenty five years our Jim is still in Wigan when Mum died my dad came to live with us
he had a stroke and was in a nursing home for four years then he sadly passed
We are looking forward to our trip

yes wizzerwin Joe veasey had a daughter named Susan.

the Seddon's lived next door to them, not next to the entry.

Colin Winrow used to drink in the rifleman when I worked there the landlords then was Elsie and jack.

Does anybody have any photographs of the outside?