Walk into town

Walking from NW Station to near the Moon under Water leaves little to be desired.
Our MP and local Councillors need to take a walk on both sides with eyes wide open….disgraceful

Most of them don't know what Wigan looks like Roy.

Many of the Concillors, especially those from Leigh never go into the Wigan town centre except for a full Council meeting.

And in my opinion, That section is one of the better areas, there are shops , pubs and cafe's , Go into Wigan from Frog lane and its a bomb site, come in from Wigan Lane Down Standishgate and its ' find a native of England' ,Its a new era everywhere and we have to accept it, This is now how it is,
EVERYWHERE,

Owd Codder said, "Many of the Concillors, especially those from Leigh never go into the Wigan town centre except for a full Council meeting."

But, why should they if they don't represent Wigan town centre? ....... Laaaaike!

wonker

Been drinking again?

Grottsville is my name for it....it all needs levelling and start again.

Wigan alright if you want something cheap loads walking round with carrier bags full of knock off

As you walk up Wallgate from the NW Station, you notice that the town is full of 'scumbags' Market Place and the Moon Under Water in particular are havens for the 'dregs of society' and upon laying my eyes on these 'foul creatures' I can only hope that the other 'vermin' which infests Market Place, the pigeons, will do us all a favour and shit upon these 'degenerate hoards of human filth'

so i'm guessing you would go over to anyone sat outside the moon and call them "dregs of society" or "vermin"

Just had a lovely stroll round town got a tattoo ,had an haircut ,bought a couple of vapes and had a couple of pints outside the moon like being abroad

You are easily pleased H.M.

Litter town….embarrassing

Cracking haircut,couldn't understand a word the barber was saying

i don't mind going in the moon

Every town is going the same .What can you expect when thousands of extra people not working .They wont get a regular full time job they will have to pay rent and all their perks will stop. Their motto is get what benefits they can and work on the side.Get ready for thousands more.These people watch pintchy and perky all the time.

The only people paying anything in nowadays seems to be the pensioners!

Off to the finer town centre of St. Helens today with her indoors on the bus....free for me £2 for her....couple of pints and lunch in one of the finer establishments...marvellous....Grottsville can't compete..

St Helens ….yuk

A marvellous afternoon...several establishments visited....indoor markets....outdoor markets...The Hardshaw centre is closed due for demolition...but guess what....they are rebuilding it. Wigan Clowncil ....shame on you.

Posted by: Billinge Biker (3046) View Billinge Biker's page

You are easily pleased H.M.

so are you

Aren't they following Wigans regeneration plans. BB?

The Hardshaw centre demolition will make way for the first phase development, with a 25,000 sq ft Market Hall flanked by a mixed-use area that includes 11,000 sq ft of modern retail space, 64 new homes and a 120 bedroom globally-branded hotel.

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Wigan will have to remove their thumbs from up their behinds first ..if they can find them ..

i wonder if you're a Mickey Mouser and that's why you don't go into Wigan

FMs Link

Thanks Basil. I forgot to complete the link

If food in the shops was free in Sent Ellen's I wouldn't go there shopping. Absolute arse end of the country. Had a few days in Newcastle the other week, was surprised at the lack of litter but even the market hall near St James Park is struggling!

Admit it...Wigan is well and truly goosed. Run down...no investment
.scroungers and beggars abound...dank pubs...eyesore...KEEP IT.

BB, come on. St.Helens is exactly the same. Both town centres are has-beens.

Fox-features, St.Helens isn't Liverpool. Billinge Biker lives in Wigan Borough, in Greater Manchester, so he's not a Micky Mouyser, raaaaight!

I thought Wigan was bad for lack of shops/market but St Helens is far worse with boarded up shops and next to no indoor market. Also the plague of beggars/drunks/druggies it had more than I have seen in Wigan

Yes Tonks Thankyou I live in WN5 area. More choice in St Helens than Grottsville...

osted by: tonker

Fox-features, St.Helens isn't Liverpool. Billinge Biker lives in Wigan Borough, in Greater Manchester, so he's not a Micky Mouyser, raaaaight!


who mentioned Liverpool?

The organisation Keep Britain Tidy has offices in London and Wigan. Perhaps they should be advising the Council to pay more attention to keeping the streets clean.

WW has a member who has a connection to Keep Britain Tidy, sorry cant remember the user name.
Perhaps people shouldn't drop litter in the first place gaffer.

Where are the Cretins now who used to issue tickets to those who chose to drop cig butts on the floor but ignore anything else ?..

Keep Britain Tidy are linked to the Rivers Trust and the River and Canal Trust. They get £millions a year and those running the show are making a fortune for themselves.

There are quite a few sites in the town that are a right mess. I often wonder what strangers to Wigan think of the place.

Agree Jacks no matter how or which direction you take to Wigan has got a eyesore and 1st impression to visitors is what a dump

Locals are being driven out of Wigan town centre and into other towns to shop. There is a large queue for the buses to Chorley every Tuesday morning, largely composed of pensioners eager to spend their money in a far safer and pleasanter environment than Wigan.
Wigan bus station is filthy, full of litter and unruly, rude school kids, who, by and large, wouldn't know manners if it was slapped all over their social media.
Neither do they have a large population of feral pigeons, who, because of the idiots who think it's a kindness to throw their unwanted food to them. As a result the pigeons are fouling all the benches and pavements, which was meant to be a pleasant place for people to sit on a nice summers day.

When is Fettlers supposed to be finished in all it’s glory?

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same person

I sincerely hope that the new market hall is a success and a lot of the old traders will return.

It would be be brilliant for the the town and it would give local people a purpose to travel into Wigan town centre and spend their money locally supporting local ( or localish ) traders.

Lets be honest, what other town the size of Wigan does not have a butchers shop / stall in the town centre / market?

That is a bad state of affairs.

I think the days of attracting the large, national companies back to the town centre are a distant memory. Unless, they can be tempted back?

The majority of us must share a proportion of the blame, myself included , for the demise of any town centre / market not just Wigan. town centre

Cheshirecat a lot of people will not go to any town centre now because of idiots like in the video or the aggressive beggars . Before them there were the "chuggers" trying to get you to sign up for anything from utilities to charities A lot of the time it is cheaper and easier to order on line now a lot of people WFH just doing their work and then wait for a knock on the doorI go into town for the bank/building society but could do my transactions on line but know if I don't use them they will close

The younger generation tend to go to other towns like Bolton and cities like Liverpool/Manchester/Preston and the Trafford Centre for the more trendy shops, bars etc which you do not get in Wigan!

And Chorley even has a better social pub life both during the day and evening!

Posted by: PeterP
"I go into town for the bank/building society but could do my transactions on line but know if I don't use them they will close"

That is a contributory factor ( on line shopping ) to why the retail outlets are diminishing in town centres all over the country.
And then people complain, and wonder why town centres are deviating away from the traditional retail side of it and concentrating on generating income via other sources.

As the old saying goes, use it or lose it!

A lot of property is being built at the moment in Wigan, so lets say you are living in another part of Britain, or you live in the North West of England and you are of an age, and an ability to be buying a new house, and you are wondering where to buy that house.

Why would such a person to choose to buy a house in Wigan ?

Because Wigan is on the London to Edinburgh and the Southport to Manchester train route, and we also have the M6 and the M61 motorways,
Wigan is also only a couple of hours' drive away from Scotland and shorter still to the Lake District.
Then you have the ferries to Ireland and the Isle of Man going from Liverpool
Compare all that to Oswaldtwisle or Cleckheaton.

The decline in town centres like in Wigan were well into decline before people started ordering goods online, which actually has escalated as a result of the covid restrictions, together with people now having their own transport to go shopping in the large shopping centres in cities like Liverpool, Manchester etc or the outlying retail parks like Robin Park, Middlebrook, Trafford Centre etc.

The more they build of the latter only adds to the decline of the former!

a proud latics supporter

Perhaps, it's because they are cheaper in the Wigan area and the buyers can commute to work or shop elsewhere in their car and on the trains, even the busway!

From what I understand, quite a few are from the cities of Liverpool and Manchester

Big Harold

Absolutely, Wigan has got the right location and transport links, and yesterday I was on the Manchester to Southport train

Owd Codger

What you say brings me to my next question, if you were a prospective house purchaser and looking to buy in Wigan, then the question of shopping would come up in terms of the weekly grocery shop, and more specialised shopping, and yes the online shopping is now a reality, but how does Wigan compare in retail terms to the rest of the northwest area, and indeed the rest of the country.

Like a lot of towns now, Wigan town centre is a disgraceful dump, frequented by feral human scumbags, and verminous pigeons.

But in terms of the retail parks in the Wigan Metro area, has Wigan got the major shopping stores which prospective house buyers in Wigan would wish to use ?

a proud latics supporter.

Many of the people from Liverpool and Manchester or even around the Wigan area who are buying the new houses in Wigan and elsewhere might not even be proposing to live in them, but instead leasing them out to others who are desperate for a property and some even being bought for HMO's!

All part of the propery investment world of those who are better off which may even include some are Councillors, MP's and even some who post on Wigan World.

The provision of shopping facilities, doctors, dentists etc mean nothing to them if money is to made to boost their bank accounts!

A typical "speculative" post, again, from owdcodger.

Do you think a property investor from Liverpool, Manchester or even Wigan would buy a NEW property to lease out to others who are desperate for a property and purchase them to convert to HMO's?

I'm sure they would target the lower end of the property ladder if that was their ulterior motive?

Absolutely, Wigan has got the right location and transport links, and yesterday I was on the Manchester to Southport train
Today I jumped out of the bath at 10am then caught the 10.35 bus to Wigan and then the 11.06 train to Manchester, then the tram to Chinatown, all free of charge

cheshircat

Like I said on another topic, it does not take long for you to resond after dangling a bit of bait

"Resond"

So, by you're own admissision you are just "dangling bait" with you're posts.

That speaks volumes for you're ( or lack of ) intelligence when a senior citizen of you're age is incapable of having a sensible conversation with like minded, mature adults.

Cheshirecat

No need for that kind of comment!

“That speaks volumes for you're ( or lack of ) intelligence”

Your?

“That speaks volumes for you're ( or lack of ) intelligence”

Your?

Your. Belonging to you.
You’re. You are.

Grammatical error on my part.
No excuses whatsoever.
My hands are held up voluntarily

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“That speaks volumes for you're ( or lack of ) intelligence”

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