Rail Worker

What the rail workers are doing with OAPs £300 heating allowance

They're out and about having fun

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Is that because they don't t need the overtime ?

It's more because their speed off with the company's they work unless of course the been sensationalized and the government s paying their wages,yet another Tory failure

"Is that because they don't t need the overtime ?"

If they are being paid nearly £80,000 a year for a 4 day week. then they probably don't. £600 a day for a days overtime isn't a bad little earner.

I the privatised companies chose to rely on overtime rather than recruits the required number of drivers then they chose to destroy industrial relations yet another Tory failure they've ruined the country over the last 14 year well done Tory voters

What is the connection with the railworkers and the£300 heating allowance?
Serious question?

The money for the train drivers huge 15% above average pay rise had to come from somewhere.

What the Tory supporter s fail to say is that train drivers wages havn,t kept up with inflation since covid, you Tories really are a pathetic bunch of liars

HM
No doubt whups will be along later to show me the error of my ways.

Do the government pay train drivers wages

The pay rise is nearer to 14% than 15%.
And bear in mind that is over 3 years, not a 14% annual rise.

They deserve every penny. Well done to all the Trade Union members for toughing it out and sticking to their guns.

No pay rises should be given by any government to any industry in the private sector as the profits of the company should be good enough to sustain any pay rise!

The non union train drivers have made a fortune from overtime working during the industrial action. Some picking up well over 100K in annual earnings.

I wonder if any NHS Doctors have applied for train driver jobs?

"Keir Starmer is not being straight with people’

It appears that not all workers got the same % rise and was delayed

you,ll soon run out of things to moan about . good job labour is in power .

For how long though?

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at least 5 yrs & if we can put up with tory rule for 14yrs then we can do so with labour .

Since you have probably not seen the link,
"how much of a country will there be left to rebuild once they are gone?'

Oh and just to clarify no one knows who I give my vote to. I may for all HM knows be a disgruntled Labour voter.

Cheshire cat don't spoil good Tory rant with facts

Posted by: cheshirecat (1278) View cheshirecat's page

The pay rise is nearer to 14% than 15%.
And bear in mind that is over 3 years, not a 14% annual rise.

THE 3 YEARS THAT IS OVER IS 2022/3, 2023/24, and 2024/25 then it will start all over again

Train driver’s settlement.

A 5% backdated rise for 2022-23, a 4.75% rise for 23-24, and a 4.5% increase for 24-25.

Total pay rise = 14.937%

I wonder why there a shortage of train drivers, if it is such a well paid job ?

TTS

British Rail employed drivers as apprentices who went through various duties before starting driver training. The franchise companies took on older people to train as drivers. Recently there was a coming together of the old apprentice trained drivers and the franchised recruits retiring at the same time. Add in the effects of Covid and there’s a big problem of driver shortages. Drivers can’t go onto a route unless they have been trained on that route. This takes up a lot of time. Usually when a train is cancelled through no driver available there will be a driver but he won’t have been trained on the route.

Posted by: First Mate (2682)
"THE 3 YEARS THAT IS OVER IS 2022/3, 2023/24, and 2024/25 then it will start all over again"

It's been backdated, then. And rightly so.
Its the same criteria with a lot of business's. If pay negotiations are on running until an agreement can be orchestrated then they will be rightly compensated for any financial deficit during the said period.

Thought they just followed tracks?

Chesh one has to wonder if pensioners triple lock will be adjusted and back pay given in line with all these payments to Starmers paymasters

Though pensioners are not Starmer's paymasters.

I also wonder if his assisted dying bill will turn out like the organ doner bill, from opt in to opt out, helping rid burden of pensioners and disabled peoples income

I would imagine pensioners railcards will still be available for concessionary travel on the railway.
Also pensioners free bus pass has its benefits of free travel plus for an extra £10 they can get add tram and train to their pass, for a year's unlimited off-peak travel on Metrolink and trains within Greater Manchester.

I'll be taking advantage of it next year

What's inflation over the same period

Gaffer

So it has been like a perfect storm of retirements and other stuff

Cheshire Cat said:

"I'll be taking advantage of it next year "

Sod off

It's been a perfect storm of Tory headline grabbing missmanegment

there,s hardly nothing left anyway now that the torys have sold everything to their spiv mates . so any rebuild will be a welcome sight .

Whupss

What world are you living in?

Both the main political parties of today are no different wher the running of the country is concerned.

The Tory's yesterday, Labour today, back to the Torys tomorrow and so on.

In the meantime, those who no longer vote just get on with enjoying life as they know that both are as bad as each other when in power..

But moan about everything Labour have done in the last 3 months whilst ignoring the ruination of the country over 14 years of Tory missmanagment

a better world than you todger it seems . do you deliberately overlook wot the torys have done in the last 14yrs ? . made their already rich mates richer while not passing any law that benefits the common man & stuck the boot in at every opportunity . wise up todger & take off those true blue glasses .

Whups

It is yourself and a few others who come on here who need to take off any blinkers if you cannot see that the Labour Party is now no longer the Socialist Party it was before Blair, Campbell and 'Lord Mendalson' created what is now a second centre right party.

And when are you going to get it into your simple mind that I have never been a Tory be it in the past, present or future, just one of the many thousands who no longer vote or vote for a independant candidate as they now see no difference between the two main political parties.

If you talk like a Tory your a tory

seems others know you todger .

Posted by: Owd Codger (3747)
"In the meantime, those who no longer vote just get on with enjoying life"


You are always moaning or complaining about something!
I dread to think how little enjoyment out of life you would get if you did decide to vote

Do the last three posters have to prove the level of their political thinking?

As for moaning, I have never moaned nearly everyday with the same little bit of retoric about the Tories having being in power for fourteen years which we all know about, moaned about the NHS being fully privatised when there is nothing by any political party to indicate that they intend to do so or moaned about pensioners going on holidays to Benidorm paid for by their heating allowance.

Have a enjoyable day!

I've never moaned ,,guffaw guffaw,,