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Started by: GOLDEN BEAR (6778) 

Watched Question time last night main topic was ""Just how long is our P.M. going to put up with Sue Braverman ""?? I just wonder how long she can go on after all the high profile GAFFE'S she has made , i kind of look to other roles in industry and job's people normally do not get "Get out of jail cards " as many times as she has . Then one has to ask why can't SUNAK see her for what she is , and that is she is after his position ,,,,,watch this space ........ Time for her shuffle offf mi thinks !!!
GB

Started: 10th Nov 2023 at 13:08

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Replied: 10th Nov 2023 at 13:18

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

She's doing a Trump: didn't get people to choose her as leader, so trying to mobilise violence to attain the result by other means.

(I guess this is something that we are going to see a lot of)

Replied: 10th Nov 2023 at 13:55

Posted by: surfer_tom (883)

Tory party they are split lot of infighting think braverman is power mad
If she gets leader of torys they will be a busted flush,

Replied: 10th Nov 2023 at 14:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Golden Bear

For the last few weeks we have watched on TV Palestinian mobs inciting racial hatred, in calling for Jihad, the Palestinian mobs have also vandalised public property and in general acted in a very anarchistic and anti-British way, BUT if any white British protesters have appeared on the streets, the police have come down hard on them, even though they have done anything nothing wrong, so the police are showing bias in favour of the Palestinian mobs, and that is what Suella Braverman has called out, in return Labour, some Tories and the BBC have called for her resignation.

WHY ?????????????

In the BBC's case, maybe it is for the same reason that they will not refer to Hamas has being a terrorist organisation, and as for Question Time last night, I turned it off in disgust, that the supposedly hand-picked politically balanced audience, was anything but, it was clearly a left wing, woke audience.

So what does the general public think about it LINK ?

In my case I couldn't care less whether it had been a Labour or Tory MP who had called out the bias being shown by the police, because at least someone has had the balls to do it, so well done Suella Braverman

Replied: 10th Nov 2023 at 14:09

Posted by: MrsC (110) 

Braverman is the only politician I respect .

Replied: 10th Nov 2023 at 14:43

Posted by: Owd Codger (3851)

The protesters are doing a great job in wakening up the majority of the public to the way that people of a certain faith are becoming the dominate force in our country and are a danger to our democracy and freedom.

Today, they will prove that even futher by protesting on a day when we honour those who lost their lives fighting to keep not only our country, but als other countries from extremists like we have now seeing on our streets as a result of a too liberal immigration policy which has attracted people we do not need or want!

Many of those waving a flag are supporters of terrorist organisations like Hamas and need to be rooted out and deported before they do take control.

And Tommy Two Stroke is correct about the audiencies of Question Time as it has become evident for some time that they are anything but a balanced audience of political thinking.

Of course, some of the usual left wing element like what come on Wigan World see nothing wrong with what is happening to our democratic free country.

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 08:33

Posted by: whups (14327) 

it,s ALWAYS balanced on question time & it states that on every program .

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 14:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Whupsy

Well it is like this, and that is if something which is 'unbalanced' appears to someone as being balanced, then shirley, that means that the 'someone' person are themselves an unbalanced person

So yoo dear Whupsy are 'unbalanced' if you think that the Question Time audience is balanced

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 14:16

Posted by: Handsomeminer (3013)

It's a balance of how people voted last time ,now it's not the bbc,s fault if a lot of people are fed are getting fed up of this lying incompetent government

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 17:10

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Braverman is an out and out fascist.

That will make her very popular with certain sections of this site!

Her speech to the UN has been dismissed as no more than a hate-filled rant!

She accuses others of hatred, but just watch her body language: seething with hatred.

She tried to pressure the police to act illegally, and they refused.

She then tried to order them to do her bidding: she does not have that power.

When the police pointed out they have experienced less bother from these marches than they get from a football match crowd, she accuses them of lying and bias, but can present no evidence.

And, on the day. it is the far right, whipped up by her, actually committing the violence.

Now you can make a case that the demo today is in bad taste: fair enough.

If you ask for an armistice on Armistice day, the fascists get very angry, as it exposes their hypocrisy: don't they own this day and have exclusive rights to use it to promote their ideology.

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 19:26

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Ena

Oooooh, strong stuff

Ave some back at yoo Tories are Toast

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 20:18

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

That Russian Dolls (Matryoshka) set consisting of Trump. Putin and Netanyahu will need to have a new Braverman carved and added.

Replied: 11th Nov 2023 at 20:42

Posted by: Owd Codger (3851)

ena malcup

A full set of Russian Dolls could also include Biden, Kim Jong Un and Mohammed Sinwar!

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 08:53
Last edited by Owd Codger: 12th Nov 2023 at 09:00:33

Posted by: peter israel (2168) 

the Question Time audience are picked on a lot of factors not just who they voted for at the last election.... you can't keep blaming the bbc or who ever just because they don't have the same opinion as you ....

Question Time audience members Questionnaire

you may not get a (Matryoshka) of Braverman but you may get a Caganer at Christmas

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 09:56

Posted by: Owd Codger (3851)

ena malcup

Are those protesters carrying placards showing a Israeli flag with a nazi symbol not racists?

Is the desecration of Jewish graves and vandalism of Jewish places of burial not racist?

And is stopping members of the public from entering shops and stores because they are owned by Jewish people similar to what happend in Germany in the thirties?

And after reading your comments about the far right of the BNP and NF, are these cretins any different than the other lot of the CP, SWP and fringe groups like the UAF where violence on our streets is concerned?

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 12:31

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

The audience in last Thursday Question Time, was so politically biased, to not be called an audience, it was purely and simply just a 'Rent a Mob' a left wing mob, I am no fan of the present government, but the BBC should act with 'impartiality' and be 'unbiased' at all times, but to coin a phrase, which I actually first read about on here, the BBC is redder (left) than a dogs lipstick

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 13:00

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6778) 

PETER .
Thats a pretty deatiled form to apply to just sit in an audience ,i think they want to know far too much .GB

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 13:09

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

OC

What on earth are you going on about?

I have NEVER made any comments about, "the far right of the BNP and NF"

ONCE AGAIN PLEASE STOP TRYING TO PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH: YOU ARE JUST MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF!

And I have never tried to excuse ANY behaviour which could be considered anti semitic, and of course some can be found in the demonstration in question and it is appropriate for the police to deal with it, Some also in the counter demonstration.

If you are desperate to have an argument with someone, try someone who has made a statement with which you can disagree. Arguing with yourself by pretending your words are mine is very silly.


Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 14:14

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 14:31

Posted by: Owd Codger (3851)

Ena Malcup

Now you have attempted to twist things, how about making some comment on what I said about the real racists and facists among us and supported by some of our own who should have more common sense!




Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 14:49

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Please do not tell me what to comment upon.






Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 14:53
Last edited by ena malcup: 12th Nov 2023 at 14:53:52

Posted by: Owd Codger (3851)

The three things I mentioned!

Replied: 12th Nov 2023 at 15:00

Posted by: First Mate (2801)

Braverman sacked

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 10:11

Posted by: First Mate (2801)

David Cameron appointed Foreign Secretary James Cleverly appointed as Home Secretary

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 10:38
Last edited by First Mate: 13th Nov 2023 at 10:45:42

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Bloody hell, who saw that coming, and I am surprised, but gaffer had it, I just hope that they don't bring back George Osborne too, because Cameron & Osborne were NOT my dream team.

So will there be a move in the Conservative Party to get rid of Sunak, and put Suella in as Prime Minister ?

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 11:28
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 13th Nov 2023 at 11:32:59

Posted by: whups (14327) 

and not about time either .

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 11:41

Posted by: surfer_tom (883)

TTS
It's a bloody shock if she hadn't gone remember Cameron resigned ,he wanted to stay in europe
Cat among the pigeons,

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 11:57
Last edited by surfer_tom: 13th Nov 2023 at 11:58:43

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Well as Cameron used to say "we are all in it together"

But as we found out, some folk are more in it than other's

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 12:17

Posted by: whups (14327) 

yes us & not them .

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 12:29

Posted by: Handsomeminer (3013)

Theirs no one left to scrape off the bottom of the barrel

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 12:47

Posted by: First Mate (2801)

Cameron return opens door for Osborne to do the same, Dorries claims
David Cameron's return to government could open the door for a similar move for George Osborne - that's according to Nadine Dorries.

The former culture secretary has long made clear she does not hold Mr Osborne in particularly high regard - and in her recent book The Plot claims Mr Osborne was involved in behind-the-scenes machinations that led to Boris Johnson's downfall as prime minister.

"This now opens the door for the rerun of Osborne," she said.

"He will want a safe seat, if such a thing exists and then into leader of the opposition slot."

Like Mr Cameron, Mr Osborne is not an elected MP, having stood down from his seat in Tatton in 2017 to become editor of the Evening Standard.

He would therefore need to enter via the Lords, as Mr Cameron has.

Mr Osborne said at the time of his resignation he was leaving the Commons "for now".

"You heard it here first," Ms Dorries said.

"Nothing happens by accident for these guys. It is all long-planned."

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 12:54

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

'Let them eat turnips' also has quit.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 13:11

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Ena

So I presume today is happy Ena day

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 13:45

Posted by: surfer_tom (883)

Europe must be laughing
At what's happened to uk
Torys split ,sacking resignations,rishi said everything great last month at party conference , all lies

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 14:33

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Well, rightly or wrongly, I did perceive her to be the highest qualified, but least competent member of cabinet.

Having Cameron onboard may help him next year to harvest centre ground votes. The entryism into the party otherwise stood to deprive him of those.

Maybe this time, we will actually have an election where veteran tories don't ask the electorate to vote for the other lot.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 14:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

I wonder what David Cameron thinks about the EU now ?

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 14:54

Posted by: surfer_tom (883)

He's a remainder

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 15:33

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

He was left over after a division.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 15:36

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Both Tobias Ellwood, and someone speaking for the other party, whose name I did not catch, have both said, " the grown-ups are back in charge"!

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 15:55

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Ena

It was Michael Heseltine who said that "the adults are back in charge"

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 16:14
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 13th Nov 2023 at 16:16:07

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

I did not see him, so that is one more.

I saw Toby.
and
I saw some former comms chap from Labour, but did not catch beginning of the broadcast, and do not know his name.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 16:21

Posted by: gaffer (8234) 

Surfer Tom

There are similar, or worse, political problems in countries of the EU, Germany and the Netherlands to name two.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 16:48

Posted by: First Mate (2801)

Esther McVey
McVey's key role is said to be leading the Government's anti-woke agenda, sources told the Sun, making her the Government's "Common Sense" chief.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 18:12

Posted by: Billinge Biker (2739) 

Don't they all pee in the same pot ? Jobs for the boys and old has been...noses in the trough for a second or third time...all millionaires...a laugh...queer starmer is no better . .. This country and all its outdated...over rated...complicated...never ending quagmire of do gooders and sympathisers. Will one day realise...this country is ******...Thankyou.

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 18:26

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Aye

Replied: 13th Nov 2023 at 19:08

Posted by: whups (14327) 

esther mcvile the minister without portfolio who put thousands of disabled on the dole .

Replied: 15th Nov 2023 at 17:16

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (16522)

Whupsy

So yoo doo not like Esther McVey ?

Replied: 15th Nov 2023 at 18:00

 

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