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Enjoy folks, thanks for all your input on thread 21.

Ta Dave

Hi Bri, I remember red gates on leyland green rd even though i can't remember them ever being closed, was there a public footpath that went up there past Quaker pit and through farmers field and come out onto winstanley rd, I thought there was as a youngster we used it or maybe we was trespassing, I know at back of Quaker to right was the old reservoir.

Red Gate was for access to what we called the top reservoir I don't think it was for public use ,quaker pit used it after the reservoir was drained,

Thanks bentlegs, I thought there was a public footpath up there as a youngster my mother sent me up there to Quaker pit to fill my barrow, it was a lot cheaper to buy coal there than the merchants.

dav the public path was at the top of red gates & went accross the field where there was a stile it then turned left to ashton rd .

Thanks Bri, I thought it come out on winstanley rd, can't remember where Ashton rd is but I'm glad it existed thought I dreamt it.

It came out onto Winstanley road opposite the old quaker pit and I think what Whups calls Ashton Road is from the top of LGR turn left and it is Garswood Road and turn right is Winstanley Road

it comes out about 50 meters short of the quaker pit . about inbetween the quaker pit & where young michael millet got killed .

Tumtingle, news our friend Frank Walford passed away this last weekend, RIP Frank

So sorry to hear that dougie, I knew Frank well R.I.P Frank.

Tumtingle, Frank was a great lad he will be missed.R I P Frank

just heard my uncle john marsh ( big john) has passed away today .

So sorry for your loss Bri, you have been through a lot of late losing yet another family member, may I express my condolences to yourself Phylis and the boys, big john was a true hard working gent and I remember family very well. R.I.P John.

R I P big john

R.I,P. Mesh, first met John in 1951 when we change to the secondary school at 11 years of age to hear of his passing thanks whups,

RIP Big John condolences to all family sad loss

dougie are you on that pic with my uncle john & the pownalls ? .

No whups, it was taken when we first went, I've seen the photo was both John & Tom Pownall on the same photo, remember Mesh & Leggy didn't get on with each other very well

so iv,e heard dougie .

i have that pic dougie & was wondering if you were on it ? .

Just found this posted by Kate Marsh

Just to let everyone know my grandads Funeral? will be on the 28th of march at 10am at holy trinity church down all green the cars will be leaving my nans on Victoria road garswood at half 9 and to the blue bell after to celebrate his life your all welcome to come and show your respect to BIG JOHN MARSH ??

Thanks for the information Tumtell,

went to my uncle john,s funeral y/day at holy trinity . was a few there & went to the blue bell afterwards . it went ok .

I was also there, to me it was a good turnout for an old man of 83 years, R.I.P now John ( he'll always be Mesh to me)
Whups did go to the grave and walked down with them to the Bell but didn't go in

i went to the bell dougie i know where the grave is & it,s about 5 graves from my parents . had something to eat with my aunty phillis & went home around 2 oclock .

So sorry I couldn't attend Bri had to go for eye appointment.

no probs dav .

Hi Bri, went up to trinity this morning to my brothers grave, also went to big johns grave and a few more that have been laid to rest, I was quite surprised as bell was open when I passed.

the woman who is running it was also running the stag & now it,s closed she has more time for the bell . my mam & dad,s grave is about 5 or 6 graves from my uncle john going towards the school field dav .

Cheers Bri, I will take a look next time I go up, I was looking at Granville wards grave and someone has spent a lot of time on it as it has flags round it and is obviously well looked after.

Just been told that Our Lady,s schoolhas only one pupil due to it closing all the other pupils have moved to other schools.

You would think the education dept would move this child over the easter break and just shut the school

I think it will have to b5e sorted can't Carry on whit one to one

sad news dougie yates has died & jack marsh from leyland gree rd has passed too .

I'm shocked Bri, it's a very sad loss knew both dougie & jack. R.I.P gents you will be sadly missed.

yes dav a sad loss in both cases .

Sad to hear that Jack Marsh has passed away as well as Duggie Yates I knew them both very well. RIP Tumtingle and Jack

Jack's friend , Frank Walford died last week They were fiends for years RIP to both

Such sad news Brian. I know that Dougie's knowledge and input on Downall Green will be greatly missed on these threads.
Thoughts & prayers to their families.
R. I. P Dougie and Jack.

Jack marsh was a hard working chap until he retired, knew him very well also knew his friend frank walford, may they both R.I.P.

Jack & his wife Enid frequented park lane club back in the day, it's quite possible frank did as well.

Bentlegs, I used to go Bryn labour club every Sunday afternoon and stay there until early evening, I always had a drink with ken savage & frank walford who were both good servants to club for many years.

dav , savo another greener .

Thank you Dave for your kind comments on the family grave. Our mum and uncle Granville are there with their dad John

Yes suesa, took me a while to think of names on grave then I realised it was granville's sister (your mother) yes you've done a grand job it is very well kept, I shall be visiting again next week.

hi dav julie lowe not very good .

Hi Bri, I know the name just trying remember her, is she percy''s daughter.

Just watching leeds on box, malc and his motley crew are probably there.

no dav she,s ste lowe,s sister . they used to live near the village hall next to the blue bell then moved to d/green rd near wainses .

Thanks Bri I remember her now, I hope she gets well soon.

that,s not the common concensuse dav .

Hi Bri, just been my mams she remembers Julie well as she was a good friend of her mothers, she's upset about the news, she said last time she spoke to Julie was at Garys funeral where she was sat with her uncle Bernard.

it,s tracy that was telling me she has c.o.p.d & was,nt that good & it looked bad .

RIP TO BOTH DOUGIE AND JACK GOD BLESS

malc

Has no one got out to say, gee um up Dave

I think they are all scared to switch on bentlegs with all the passings recently.

Hope malcs ok after Leeds result, Bri will be happy as united are doing well, and I'm happy with rugby result against the wire.

rugby results been very good dav but united,s result on thursday & the injuries they got was a disaster.

I must admit things didn't go well but they will bounce back.

That is so sad about Dougie, I was going to write in a couple of weeks to tell him I was coming over and we could have a couple of pints in the bowling club. He always said he could not figure out how he had never met me as I used to live directly across the road from theStar Hotel. Sadly now we will not meet .
R. I. P Dougie condolences to all his family

brian i see you used to live on sefton rd . did you know my uncle john ( big john marsh ) .

Hi Brian
Yes I knew (Mesh)he was a few years older than me, he was in his last year at central school when I was in my first. I lived on Sefton Road for abou15years when both my parents died I went to live with my Aunty in Wigan road across from the Star. I’m coming over in June to see my sister she is 89 this year. Hope you are keeping well.

he passed away around 3 weeks ago brian . i,m doin ok as well as i can .

I will be in Downall Green in June to look at my parents grave. Dougie gave me a contact number for the people who are tidying up the gates they made a great job of the grave ,sent me photos. You take care of yourself.

do my best brian . i,m just around the corner from the church .

Whups, have you checked your pit pensioner this month mine has dropped a few quid , any idea what's going on.

ask the government they are taking the lions share .

Hi Bri, I attended the funeral of Dave bennetts wife today I passed on your condolences and he thanks you, also a guy asking about you was young balli (Dennis Ball) there was a few old darters there.

yes dav but bally,s older than me . was pey fishwick there ? .

Bentlegs you will be on state pension plus your pit pension so probably will be over your personal tax allowance combined and will be paying tax Either that or you have not got the 10.1% rise paid on the pit pension give them a ring

No Bri pey wasn't there I thought he would of been though, not seen him for 12 months.

bit suprised with that dav because i think his wife died in similar circumstances as dave bennet,s ? .

Bentlegs just got my BCSSS statement for this month drawing £13 LESS even though I have got a rise on my pension ,Now paying more TAX on my pit pension

Peter P so it is the tax man taking our money

taking ours but not the rich man,s money .

Only just found out that Doug Yates has passed away. I am very saddened by this, it is only a short while ago that i was talking to him in Holy trinity graveyard, where he was tidying up ( as he always did )

RIP Doug ( one of life's good guys )

I spoke to Irene Duggies wife today it looks like he died with an heart problem ,they didn't,t know about.

So sad that bentlegs, thing is you can't get to see a doctor since covid, it's all computer work now on ask my gp so most people don't bother, and there are people who ain't got or can't use a computer, aggravating really when most people have had to return to work after covid.

Bambam

A new GP contract comes into being shortly. This will give patients the right to book appointments in advance or be referred to other services.

Thanks gaffer, that sounds much better hope it happens soon.

Let's hope that it does not do like the Dentist's contract did, and drive increasing numbers of GPs out of the NHS provision.

I am amazed that my GP has not retired. I know how dissatisfied he is: it will not take much to push him.

Any rights you may have are going to be of scant benefit if you cannot get a GP, or have a hundred mile round trip to see one, as many now are experiencing with dentistry.

it will happen when this lot finally privitise the NHS dav.

sad to say that barry hill who lived in poplar ave has passed away ,he was around mid 50s .

Sad news again Bri, I was talking to him in Wigan a few months ago and he told me he had been very ill, he was living in an hostel and awaiting his own property so sad R.I.P Barry.

he was at one time living in those flats at booths brow/downall green rd corner . dont know wot he died of dav ? .

Cheers Bri, I know he suffered a stroke due to the stress he had been through, perhaps we will find out in due course.

heard owt about barry hill dav ? .

No Bri, hardly see anybody to find out really I'm led to believe his ex Karen has put something on Facebook.

dont know about you dav but i,m not on it .

No Bri, to much like hard work all that crap.

yes it is dav & a lot of trouble caused on it .

dav i hear that spike is getting dropped off by the bus outside his front door now ? .

He told me he never goes out now, I think he been back hospital with his gammy foot.

hi dav just heard that lee sharratt has passed on .

Oh very sad Bri, I knew his father Billy very well do you know what he died of, my heart goes out to them, condolences to his family R.I.P Lee.

i dont know dav but if i hear owt i,ll put it on here .

I think you are a bit hard on Mick calling him flagstamper, Spikes is not too bad.

Mick's not bothered what he gets called like me he's used to it, me and mick have had nicknames for one another for over 50years, we both speak regularly on phone and still use them.

Well Dave I suppose that's OK, any idea how his mum is last time I spoke to her she called him an idle swine,

Ha ha, she's always called him that bentlegs, I've actually witnessed her stepping over his legs when he as had feet up on settee, I shouted at him and he just said she's used to it, she has always spoiled him, last time I spoke to him he told me she's had a bit of memory loss recently but she must be 99yrs old this time.

A very nice lady is Thelma

who,s the bus driver who,s dropping him off outside the door dav ? .

There are a couple of drivers who feel sorry for him Bri so they take him home, I spoke to him this morning and he's having a difficult time with his mothers dementia, he was telling me about cat weasel coming home after a stroke, and the refurbishment of the bell, so they must be getting money from somewhere, can always rely on Blakey for a bit of gossip.

especially when he,s "on the buses " dav .

Ha ha, good old Blakey he's not very pleased that the bell only opens at five, he has always been afternoon drinker I told him jump on bus and go to Ashton or even Simms road but he won't, gone have the days when everyone turned out for both sessions it's ridiculously to expensive now.

iv,e heard the bell has been refurbished dav .

rita bolland has passed away . another greener gone .

RIP Rita condolences to all family

Yes very sad news Bri, i was very close to family and spent a lot of time with them, condolences to all the family. R.I.P Rita (Micky Ricky).

There doing Blue Bell roof slates un copings don't know about doing it up inside tho it badly needs it but is it worth doing needs someone buy it out right to make Bell work just sell cans

it was needed to be bought out 40yrs ago malc .

Morning David I know it's a past time now pal how's Mrs Lewis

David is your Donna not running a pub now I was talking to Kim Evans last week she's running that new one primrose at goose Green I had a bloody good pint of John Smith s in there yey it was good too she's hoping go to mcr running one she told me

Mrs Lewis doing fine thanks Malc, no not in pub anymore they sold it and I had to move out, but Donna is now working in WCC at Bull hey she loves it, a very busy venue.

ashton market cordened off this morning after finding a body . anyone know about this ? .

Whups unfortunately A pensioner from Haydock was found dead in his car been missing a few days. Condolences to his family. Questions now raised why it took so long to find his vehicle but when the description of the car is a silver Toyota Rav4 with tinted windows but no registration given Most people would just walk past and not register anything amiss

it will all come out in the wash .

Ashton town centre allegedly covered by CCTV but he was discovered by two people walking by.

Not in favour of town centre cctv, since it was all set up police hardly make a presence, if anything happens police refer to cctv hardly a deterrent for antisocialists and would be thieves, this town needs a good shake up, where I live cars are being robbed in streets every night and the crime gets reported immediately but not seen any police yet.

dav iv,e heard that julie lowe has passed away . i knew she was bad but did,nt expect it so early . another greener gone.

More sad news Bri, my mother will be gutted R.I.P Julie.

did you know phil riley from garswood dav ? .

RIP Phil Riley good lad

That name rings a bell Bri, just can't picture him.

only small dav & lived in garswood . had 2 brothers paul & andy .

he was an evertonian dav .

I must have met him at some point Bri, R.I.P Phil.

did you ever remember george harrison who lived near the dam & went in the s&s dav .

Yes I do Bri, was it his son or nephew john who played rugby.

his son dav . his daughter married dek ellison but before him she was dating phil riley . they looked like the odd couple as she was tall & he was small . she still knocks around brocsteads walking her little dog .

Brian thy getting cross jottled with Sharon Jones wed Derek and Phil had a brother mick Riley work on gas board for years tall lad red headed lad

Don't remember his daughter Bri, but I know who Malc is on about with Sharon and Derek.

your right malc . i could,nt remember the brother who was on the gas board . but the girl who wed dek ellison was at 1 time going with phil riley .

Derek n Sharon geet gether at our football do in s n s years ago early 80s Brian I can't remember Sharon going out with Phil Riley tho

iv,e been with them malc . it may have been for a short time but they were an item at 1 point .

I remember Sharon as she was an absolute stunner, but I can only remember her going out with Derek I think she lived at brocsteds I know Derek come from Bryn.

I can't remember that Brian I've only ever know Sharon wi Derek I mabe wrong

No your wrong on that count Brian your mistook with someone else Phil was much owder than Sharon like I said I've know Derek and Sharon a very long time they got gether early 80s dit no Eddie Daley died last week Lorence myler was telling me Sunday

no i,m not wrong malc . just because you dont know doesnt mean that it did,nt happen . phil looked older but it did,nt matter . i,m right . no i did,nt know eddie had passed on . his wife worked in greenhalhgs in ashton for a spell .

rita bolland,s funeral is on monday 3rd july @ 1,oclock at holy trinity .

Cheers Bri, me and my mother will be in attendance.

A bit of Downall Green History!

Very interesting read tonks, thank you I remember the site on Downall green, and now know where the legion and S&S was formed, but sadly now gone.

I remember Bernard lowe catching us rolling beer barrel dyn car park me n malc un cotch owd on me and wots thy name I says Bert Bert who I said Bert Renulds

Some very big houses on that site now interesting read like you say dave and we millingfuds too

did you go to the funeral dav ? . was there plenty there .

No I didn't make it Bri, mother wasn't well so I had take her to doctors.

Hope she's well David take care

Whupsy I would have thought you would go to the funeral has the church is only a few hundred yards from your front door

why is that . i have no affinity with the family . hav,nt you got a car ? .

Whupsy you are always asking people did THEY attend funerals but you say you did not attend because have no affinity to the person being buried, You post about people passing away then ask what they died of? Yes I drive but why would I need to attend any funeral at DG? It is nearly 48 years ago since I left DG and most people I knew left DG many years ago or are under the sod already. I still have relations in Garswood but the last two funerals one was at Wigan Crem and the other was at Rainford. In a long while from now I hope if I am still alive if not its written in her will my wife has requested that she is buried at Holy Trinity because that was the family church and a lot of her relations are buried there

listen fool i asked dav lewis because HE SAID HE WAS GOING . get your facts right .

BOYS BOYS show respect to one another plz I know it's warm get in a cowed bath

who that idiot .

Another Downall Greener has passed away Jack Greenhalsh wife, maiden name Hesketh ,

i had heard bentlegs .

Regarding Tonkers price about Cromptons did any of you know that during the war people made hinges from pieces of leather for their garden gates and allotments,

Bentlegs I can remember my uncle who lived in a cottage at Ashton Cross where he had a large shed for his pigeons. He had a very large padlock on the doors but leather hinges so any one with a sharp knife could cut them

" I can remember my uncle who lived in a cottage at Ashton Cross"

Are you related to Les Cunliffe, from Ashton Cross? (or are you referring to Rigby's, which wasn't at Ashton Cross?)

Tonks for you it was my uncle Joe Rigby who lived in the cottage down Millfield lane

Ah.! In Haydock! So, WHY did you say "Ashton Cross"?

Anyroadup, an old mate of mine must be your cousin then, or your nephew. Ian Rigby (known as Gus), joined the army, went to Germany?

Ian is my cousin along with his sister Pamela (Ex Golborne coal queen)

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Is he still in Germany?
I remember him buying himself a Suzuki 500 2-stroke, in pale blue. He made it look like a moped because he was so big!

Last time I saw him he at the time lived at the top end of Rectory Road DG. His missus and my missus worked together making carpets at what now is Ashton Seagulls on Bryn Rd South. That must have been40 odd years ago

Please go to thread 23.

Cheers Bambam I was just finishing off the post about my relations