Safely home? What happens when people leave hosp

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My mother died back in April due to various issues, and yet (as with alot of people, particularly the elderly) the doctors have been putting Covid-19 on the death cert, even though they died of other causes. This is going on all the time and it's the reason why the government and media are fudging the numbers.

I don't believe there ever was a virus. Medical professionals (those who aren't afraid of speaking out) have come forward on social media and video sites like youtube (many of them have been censored and had their videos deleted) saying the the numbers don't add up, reports of empty hospital wards, and that viruses aren't contagious and can't exist outside the human body. Sadly, so many people are falling for this scam hook, line and sinker and believing everything the government and media tells them, and as such they are allowing their rights and freedoms to take away from them with these ridiculous rules.

Ashtonman01:

So sorry to hear of the death of your mother, most especially at this difficult time, and I absolutely believe what you say about doctors certifying deaths due to this so-called virus. I've read that they're being told to do that to bump up the figures by the Government.

Thank goodness there is someone else out there who believes that the "virus" scare is a scam, but people will believe what they're told without question and without research and, sadly, will be brain-washed and avoid other people because they think they'll die. It's not natural.

I know this has been a global problem, but I hold the belief that, in China, some stupid scientists were working on something and there was a containment breach in a lab in Wuhan which started all of this, but it wasn't the killer of the 21st century it was purported to be, but that it was seen as a way of containing people in a sort of experiment to see how people cope with isolation.

Why? We'll never be told the truth of that, but human beings have developed a very complex social life over the last few thousand years and interaction is essential to the psychological well-being to their existence, but this lock-down will have had a very serious effect for many people, especially those who already have mental health issues.

Yes, many people have died, some due to Covid-19 but, if the truth were told, those people had underlying medical problems and lacked the natural immunity to fight it, much like influenza.

I really could go on about this, but I won't, because there are those who will ridicule both you and I for our beliefs.

When we had our baby petunia.had to be in hospital for like a week. His aunt had covid was in five days. His grandpa just had a stroke mild one at a rehab facility. My dad broke his leg because it snowed back in April.only the patient is allowed when I take petunia to the to her doctor.he cannot come only one parent is allowed. When I was pregnant.my dr wouldn't let me go anywhere till I had the baby. Even then couldn't
In the United states its the.governors who has the okay.

When we had our baby petunia.had to be in hospital for like a week. His aunt had covid was in five days. His grandpa just had a stroke mild one at a rehab facility. My dad broke his leg because it snowed back in April.only the patient is allowed when I take petunia to the to her doctor.he cannot come only one parent is allowed. When I was pregnant.my dr wouldn't let me go anywhere till I had the baby. Even then couldn't
In the United states its the.governors who has the okay.

Pippa the discharge lounge aghhhh...6 hrs of waiting.

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as a trust member i think there are far too many surveys with regard to how the trust is being managed/operated.several surveys have been sent out with first class stamps on them.i can assure you that its not in any way shape or form necessary.
.save cash, cut admin.

The quality and the neglect of the care plan in the community would be determined in part on why the person was kept in the hospital in the first place, would it not ? In other words, it's one thing caring for a fairly young person who is discharged from hospital after, say, breaking his leg. A fairly 'old' person discharged into the so-called community recovering from the same injury would beget a care plan comprising more tact, insight and genuine understanding into those special needs. To gain that insight into the special needs just means draw the contrast between young and old ...male and female ...frail and weak ....living in a family and living alone .... and tailor the care plan from there. Human beings are all different in their special needs. And surveys and conferences in hotels, etc. do drain confidence in the health service. Usually all that is needed to make a care plan work comes through common sense talking with the patient. Assume that the patient sits somewhere beneath your imagined superior intellect and you will draft a care plan fit for a dog. It's easy enough, of course, to impose a ridiculous care plan on a poor soul who, recovering from injury or illness, is no shape to negotiate. For that reason I did mention somewhere tact and common sense work. At Wigan Infirmary should you manage to negotaite your way through the crowds of people who talk like doctor's receptionists' and whose personality always insist they know best, you may reach the simple and straightforward nurses and doctors who do understand all this. It's just a pity by the time you get to sit down and speak with such human beings after running the rainbow gaunlet, so to speak, of questionnaires and queries your faith in the health service naturally wanes. At Euxton Hall discharge is always accompanied with a care plan that is tailored from the fabric of the special needs of the individual patient. The same thoughtfulness the Priory exercise too. In other words, going private is popular. In other words, for some apparent reason, if you are able to treat a person with money somehow they seem to want to listen. But Wigan Infirmary, as far as I am concerned, is much better if not equal in relation to the private establishments. The nurses and doctors at Wigan are simple, good-natured folk. So are the auxillary workers there too. I am not an oncologist. In other words, cancer is not my speciality. Even so, there is a cancer running the length and breath of health treatment in Wigan and it doesn't need a medical degree to work it all out . How you treat it, is another matter.

“ How you treat it, is another matter.”

And “if you treat it at all” is yet another!

so who,s at fault ? .

Posted by: Wiganread (14)
The quality and the neglect of the care plan in the community would be determined in part on why the person was kept in the hospital in the first place, would it not ? In other words, it's one thing caring for a fairly young person who is discharged from hospital after, say, breaking his leg. A fairly 'old' person discharged into the so-called community recovering from the same injury would beget a care plan comprising more tact, insight and genuine understanding into those special needs. To gain that insight into the special needs just means draw the contrast between young and old ...male and female ...frail and weak ....living in a family and living alone .... and tailor the care plan from there. Human beings are all different in their special needs. And surveys and conferences in hotels, etc. do drain confidence in the health service. Usually all that is needed to make a care plan work comes through common sense talking with the patient. Assume that the patient sits somewhere beneath your imagined superior intellect and you will draft a care plan fit for a dog. It's easy enough, of course, to impose a ridiculous care plan on a poor soul who, recovering from injury or illness, is no shape to negotiate. For that reason I did mention somewhere tact and common sense work. At Wigan Infirmary should you manage to negotaite your way through the crowds of people who talk like doctor's receptionists' and whose personality always insist they know best, you may reach the simple and straightforward nurses and doctors who do understand all this. It's just a pity by the time you get to sit down and speak with such human beings after running the rainbow gaunlet, so to speak, of questionnaires and queries your faith in the health service naturally wanes. At Euxton Hall discharge is always accompanied with a care plan that is tailored from the fabric of the special needs of the individual patient. The same thoughtfulness the Priory exercise too. In other words, going private is popular. In other words, for some apparent reason, if you are able to treat a person with money somehow they seem to want to listen. But Wigan Infirmary, as far as I am concerned, is much better if not equal in relation to the private establishments. The nurses and doctors at Wigan are simple, good-natured folk. So are the auxillary workers there too. I am not an oncologist. In other words, cancer is not my speciality. Even so, there is a cancer running the length and breath of health treatment in Wigan and it doesn't need a medical degree to work it all out . How you treat it, is another matter.

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there is no help .

There is help but you spend hours on the phone trying to get itSome times you get support then it stops and then no follow up. Most O/T's will do a maximum of 6 visits then give you idiot sheets to do the exercises yourself. Or you can wait for months for a visit in the 1st place.