And STILL they Come

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The Official Home Office Funded Review, What They Haven't Told Us

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"For reasons which have never been properly explained, Labour instigated a policy of massive expansion of immigration.

The fear must be a future Labour government would do the same’. Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the Migrationwatch think-tank, said 90 per cent of immigrants to the UK headed to England"

Oh good... sheeeesh... we will be standing on one anothers heads some time soon.... Its ridiculous and once more ridiculously obvious this cannot carry on

tell that to the pink bellied politicians sue.a coalition of girl guides and scouts could do a better job than these eton/oxford rah-rah-rah clowns.

cue Darren ... to claim more go to Germany/ france etc !

deluded Motorola mouth, aint seen him around these last few days?????

He is lurking out there billy don't be getting worried

billy
he will be on business with whatevers the flavour of the month,the only jobs he aint had is pm and chief clerk bank of england

more fun A mother who stabbed her baby daughter with a kitchen knife has won the right to stay in Britain – so she can stay in touch with the girl she tried to kill. The woman was jailed for five years for attempting to murder her daughter when the girl was just eight months old. After completing her jail sentence she was due to be deported to her home country of Bangladesh. A judge ruled it would be ‘very cruel’ to stop her from seeing the child. She won her case using Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights – the right to a private and family life.

Tell us something we do not know, just a disgrace for hard working Brits having to put up with this sham

England's green and pleasant land...oh well...guess I'll stay put

Keep those dam Sassenach out of Scotland !

Only another three days

the scots cant go it alone on the world stage...its a big con from salmond and the majority know it.

London namby pambies have syphoned a whole lot of revenue of northsea oil with little benefit to Scotland ....about time a modern day GuyFawkes got rid of the blood sucking brain dead morons

it will be played down in the media without a doubt. Not only that there are now PLENTY OF COUNCIL HOUSES EMPTY to shove them in so they will be hidden away from sight. Whats betting when they are in court their nationality and ethnicity are not revealed ...........

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We are expecting a crime wave when they hit billy. They will not want the public being wound up. They already do this on a regular basis with some "other" sections of our society

bump

Ya right there turbo there will be a bump when they land

count down has begun...just two days to go and ya wont recognise your own streets anymore...more to the point, all these people seem to be protected by their own human rights????where the hell has our human rights gone to???did we ever have any???I'm thinking of suing the US gov fer deporting me, whats my chances of a biggg payday jouell

Meh

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no speaka Darren
ps mek it ya new year promise Darren...get that dear old lady with the crucifix a bed pan....yal feel good inside trust me.

in twenty years time, there wont be any sign left of the brit culture....already the Christian church is in meltdown...crucifixes give offence and have to be removed, words in our native language have been outlawed?everyone has human rights cept the native brits???how long afore our culture is just a faint memory?????

what hitler couldn't do by force , labour and the far left are doing by stealth, and people like Darren and co are aiding and abetting them.

theres a pot boilinggggg

Mick .... anybody who votes for a left wing party TODAY has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to complain as to the state of the country.

Blaming the tories for the cuts, debt and immigration issues wont wash with any intelligent person.

Hundreds of pregnant foreigners are flying to Britain just days before they give birth so that they can receive free healthcare courtesy of the NHS, a report has found. The women are duping airlines - who normally forbid expectant mothers more than 36 weeks pregnant to fly - so they can receive the free service. Expectant mothers trick airlines in their home countries into letting them fly by showing staff forged doctors notes which conceal the length of their pregnancies. Most of the women who arrive at NHS hospitals then have to be admitted and allowed to give birth, the report found, because their pregnancies were too advanced for them to fly home. The average cost of a birth with no complications and one night's stay in an NHS hospital is £1,092. Immigration officials at one airport stopped more than 300 such health tourists over two years, the Sunday Telegraph reported. The revelations follow a worrying report in October, that warned that foreign visitors and short-term migrants cost the NHS £2billion a year It concluded the Health Service has ‘the most generous rules in the world’.

Pregnant Foreigners

I'll tell you something else that has been COMPLETELY MISSED. When a child is born here of foreign parents they get DUAL NATIONALITY. The child is a British citizen by birth.

Thats why the mother do it.

Obviously HWP

Green and pleasant land

HWP I beg to differ on the assumption that children born here have automatic citizenship... they do not... In the USA they do. At least the last time I researched this it stood.

Sue is absolutely right , they cannot be given British citizenship unless their parents are British citizens or the parents have indefinite leave to stay here.
I have always welcomed anyone to our shores, however its beyond ridiculous that we welcome so many at tax payers expense, and the fact that so many are now living on the streets. We cannot provide for them so should shut the door and keep it shut till we deal with those who are already here .

You could be right HWP, but its a grey area


Under current law, [1] a child born in the UK after 1 January 1983 will only acquire British nationality if either his/her mother or father is:

A British citizen; or
Settled in the UK (i.e. has Indefinite Leave to Remain)

It used to be the case that only legitimate children could derive nationality from their (British) father, i.e. the father had to be married to mother in order to pass his nationality to the child. This is no longer the case following an amendment to the law which came into force on the 1st of July 2006 [2]. For more information see Question 10 ‘Does the child of an asylum seeker who has a British parent automatically acquire British citizenship?’

What does ‘settled in the UK’ mean?

'Settled' means ordinarily resident in the United Kingdom without being limited under the immigration laws as to how long the person can stay here.

Whether a person is ordinarily resident or not depends on the facts of the case. A person who is not restricted under the immigration laws as to the period for which s/he may remain is probably ordinarily resident if s/he:

Has been living in the United Kingdom for a number of years, without being absent, except for short holidays; and
Is in the United Kingdom legally (without being in breach of the immigration laws).

Long periods of absence from the United Kingdom (for more than a year, for example) may mean that a person is not ordinarily resident. Shorter periods of absence may also, in some circumstances, mean that a person is no longer ordinarily resident (for example, if he or she left the United Kingdom intending to live abroad permanently)

so whats that make me then????irish mother and father...docked in Liverpool in late December 1928
I wuz born jan 22 1929? ive always called myself an English paddy.ya tellin me I'm a bloody migrant??????

What happens if someone leaves the UK to live and work in the states, then applies for dual nationality over there, how does this affect their standing in the UK, just curious.

Will the water level rise in the UK when the hordes arrive?

Seems like it Billy

Leeds council said increased pressures on housing could lead to growing homelessness, and that both Bulgaria and Romania had high levels of diseases such as tuberculosis, mumps, measles and rubella. Manchester City Council highlighted concerns over its Roma community, saying there were high rates of truancy and teenage pregnancy. Residents also complained that Roma households ‘appeared to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle without appearing to work’.
Despite the fears, virtually no councils have drawn up plans to deal with the expected influx of Romanians and Bulgarians. One exception was Kent, which estimated that the new arrivals could cost it £3 million in extra services, including 390 extra primary school places.

glad im retired and it wont be my incometax paying for thees visiters

Hold me hands up ... i was not up with the latest law.

""Settled" status in this context usually means the parent is resident in the United Kingdom and has the right of abode, holds Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), or is the citizen of an EU/EEA country and has permanent residence,"

That means if a pregnant EU citizen comes here having the right to stay and claim benefit their child will gain British citizenship.

our country is finished

LOL

why not just give our country over to the muslims and have done withit it will be cheaper in the end

Agree billyh, its gonna happen in the end anyway, they are taking over little by little.

if the coalition are to be believed, i.e no benefits for 3 months and no housing benefit unless they have got a job, then where are all these people going to live? and who will be paying their rent and council tax etc? and if they are sleeping rough are they going to be booted back home as the coalition claim they will ?

i am sure daren will be able to put a few up for three months until there benifits start

Not Welcome? If millions of Britons were pouring into Romania, Bulgaria, and Poland in an era of high unemployment and economic hardship, how welcome do you think they would be?

keep ya garden shed locked bro.

Hope your brushing up on your Bulgarian Billy. you know it makes sense!

ive asked this before, I ask again....what can beggars contribute to our society??????nothing, they are coming here fer the most generous handouts in the common markey.

The sun never set on the British empire

Maybe its their "cultural" skills that can benefit the UK in ways we don't know about at this moment in time, give it another three months!

in thee months the jails will be full and platt bridge will be a nogo area

I thought it already was a no go area !

not the part were i live mick, well not yet anyway happy new year

billy,
I may come across next year so I just hope the country isn't full and I can squeeze in for a week or so. All the best to you for 2014. I know Paul follows these posts so all the best to him also.

"Maybe its their "cultural" skills that can benefit the UK in ways"

Pickpocketing is a cultural skill we will have to accept in the spirit of Tolerant multiculturalism

Have a very happy New Year Bill (and ALL WW members) but don't forget your health insurance!

You missed the biggest skill they have. A.T.M. fraud... They are masters at that! Oh and don't forget they have no peers in the begging stakes either! But hey! Why worry? Let's all feel blessed to welcome them among us! They will surely enrich our lives!

Short Memory
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12/30/nigel-farage-britain-is-full_n_4518312.html

paul,

British Passport so HWP etc. can pay for my treatment.

What a surprise!!! Bulgarians and Romanians were last night preparing to travel to Britain as restrictions on working here are lifted tomorrow. Flights from Romania to England are full – even though one airline doubled the number to meet demand – with one-way tickets selling for up to £3,000 each. And all tickets for seats on buses leaving the Bulgarian capital of Sofia until January 9 have been snapped up!!

i still say daren should offer up his extra bederoom

He will have to ask his boss first... See if it's on her list.

He could offer them time share

10pm - 6pm darren
6am - 2pm Bulgar
2pm - 10pm Rumanian

Sorted

Well I did my bit.... I left...

HAPPY GOOD MORNING!

They're stealing all our hammers!

Where are they all? I was expecting to find Romanian and Bulgarians running wild in town after all your warnings.

Arrivals

Thats not how it works only fools think it would be like a goldrush stampede... a million poles didn't come here overnight. You get the first of the few checking out the "lie of the land" and then it builds up from there.

Come back with the condescending comments in 6mths

they aint tooo particular about their toiletries according to one burnley councillor.

they aint tooo particular about their toiletries according to one burnley councillor.

is thats why daren not offering them his spare bedroom

dont ban muslims ban islam

More British workers will ‘lose out’ from the influx of cheap labour from Romania and Bulgaria, Ed Miliband has admitted. The Labour leader insisted it was not ‘prejudiced’ to believe that growing numbers of low-skilled migrants from the European Union would add to the problem of low pay and poor job security. Days after restrictions on workers from eastern Europe were lifted, Mr Miliband also called for a legal loophole to be closed which allows British workers to pay foreign workers less. rom the start of 2014 curbs workers from Romania and Bulgaria coming to Britain have been lifted, raising fears of a fresh influx of cheap labour under-cutting people who already live in the UK.

Tell me something new!! The BBC made a ‘terrible mistake’ by not reflecting the public’s concerns about immigration, its political editor has admitted. Nick Robinson said that during Labour’s years in government, BBC executives feared an uncensored debate about the issue would stoke racism.
As a result, viewers’ concerns about pressure on jobs and wages, and cultural tensions were not aired as the BBC ‘had decided these are not acceptable views – and that was a terrible mistake’.

" BBC executives feared an uncensored debate about the issue would stoke racism"

Thats not for them to decide. The BBC is a new organisation you cannot trust to tell the truth.

The REAL problem was not that the "news" would stoke racism but the government policies that created that "news" because without those policies that "news" wouldn't happen.

This is what DEMOCRACY is all about, its fundemental. Tell the people the truth and let them decide what they want. No, Labour were and are on a hidden ideological crusade.

Vote Labour ... Doing it for Britain

they are trying to tell us how to think The BBC suppresses the Truth and manipulates the public ? What do you expect with a Left Wing Organisation !

The BBC has been biased for years now. It is pretty clear to me that the BBC is generally pro immigration and is loathed to criticise the last New Labour governments 'Blairite approach' to the issue. So it is no surprise that they gave blanket coverage to a report last month, by Christian Dustmann and Tommaso Frattini from the UCL, which said immigration had made a substantial contribution to the public finances. However yesterday Mervyn Stone a senior statistician at the UCL said the report contained some basic schoolboy errors. The BBC has a duty to be impartial and not only balanced but check out information BEFORE they broadcast.

its the bbc thats racist, against us

The taxpayer has spent £20million in four years on translators for foreigners on benefits, it emerged today. The Department for Work and Pensions said most money was spent on interpreters for people from Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. But there are fears that the bill will rise after restrictions on migrants from Romania and Bulgaria were lifted at the start of this month.

Glad to see interpreters being kept in work during these turbulent times.

Keep em' coming in, what a lovley multicultural country we are.

gravy train

What a stupid comment, I do hope you are joking.

"Keep em' coming in, what a lovley multicultural country we are"

Of many undesirables

Time will tell

Joseph is acting as the Devil's advocate...He is a wrong un and no mistake!

It would seem so

Okay, lets wait for them at the ports with fixed bayonets and send them packing.

One just can't win with you lot!

I never make stupid comments by the way, controversial but never stupid.

Shalom.

Surely a simple line of HMG Brownings would be easier, less arm strain to claim for.

What.....and who's picking up all the brass afterwards?

It all has to be recycled now you know.

DAMN YOU!

Arms and legs come relatively cheap, dontcha know.

There's true. And a pittance of a pension to boot.

Indeed!

Why don't we all just speak Polish?

Nelly Pledge!

Mac, who or what is Nelly Pledge??

Paul,
It is a Polish!!! (Why don't we all speak Polish)

a romany duckerer paul.makes a nice bunch o wax flowers to.

Nelly Pledge

Ha ha!! thanks for the translation everyone!

whats in a name paul??I guarantee not one of the alledged travellers Darren points the finger at, use their real names....gorger crooks on the run from council rents/rates ect.

A single police force arrested 2,000 criminal suspects from 100 different countries in just 12 months, new figures have revealed. Details of the arrests, revealed in a Freedom Of Information Act request to Kent Police, have prompted criticism over the country's free borders and a lack of control over who is allowed to enter the UK. The majority of non-UK citizens held for crimes in the county have come from Eastern Europe - particularly Lithuania and Poland, the figures for 2012 to 2013 reveal. Global problem: Kent Police arrested 2,000 criminal suspects from 100 different countries in just 12 months Global problem: Kent Police arrested 2,000 criminal suspects from 100 different countries in just 12 months The total arrested were from Eastern Europe, including 230 Lithuanians, 213 Poles, 208 Romanians, 162 Slovaks and 79 Czechs. Polish nationals have been the largest non-UK community in Kent for many years, with the latest census, carried out in 2011, revealing there were 10,357 Polish people in the county.

Any from Transylvania ?? 😱

is that were the vampires are

Maybe they came over to suck some blood out of the UK benefits system 😳

ha ha not maybe definatly

Immigration debate

Actually quite an interesting debate, there should be a lot more programmes like this!

I agree, Paul.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03phwk5/The_Truth_About_Immigration/

Made up for telly. Not worth linking.

It will be on in another thirty minutes, the hidden life of Britain's immigrants, better than Tom and Jerry!

Only just seen your comment Billy but your 100% right (as usual)!

today paper Millions of pounds from Britain’s controversial overseas aid budget is being diverted to fund housing and benefits for asylum seekers living in the UK. The Home Office, one of the departments hit hardest by the Chancellor’s spending cuts, is quietly siphoning off around £10million a year. The cash, which is enough to put 200 police officers on the streets, would otherwise have to be found from the department’s own budget.

Never! BRITAIN is facing an asylum hang­over from the Olympics with dozens of foreign athletes refusing to leave. Flag-bearer Weynay Ghebresilasie was one of four Eritreans to claim asylum after the Olympics Fewer than half the competitors who claimed asylum in 2012 won the right to stay. But 18 months on only one in four of those without leave to remain has been sent packing. Of the 82 Olympians, coaches and other back-room staff applying to stay after the London Games, 40 were granted refugee status. Just 10 of the remaining 42 were put on planes back home while the rest are either on the run, fighting legal battles against deportation or still waiting for a first decision. The delays are costing UK taxpayers hundreds of thousands of pounds to support the athletes and fund their legally aided appeals. Home Office figures show asylum ­applications were submitted by 82 Olympic visa holders, just 10 of whom have been removed.

more and more I read this stuff, more and more I feel my human rights were abused by uncle sam.

" 40 were granted refugee status"

why wasn't I??????
white and semi Christian.....could that be the reason???

Many a true word is spoken in jest Billy!!

Oh to be in England now that spring is here 😳

Im sure that should be "April" britboy!

Oh well...I'm sure it makes a point...I'm considering now that I'm on the better side of the pond just going off the continual debacle surrounding the immigration scene.

i would stop all immigration for at least two years and then see where we are

darren lives in his own perfect world.... Well he thinks he does... Doesn't he? If you ask him he will say yes today........ And probably NO tomorrow.

he can say what he wants i am just watchin 9 11 on the tele look what the moslems did to america and wait for then to do it to us

God bless all those who died in the twin towers atrocity, RIP!

"Ragina Hamisi, 33, went into labour in the middle of the arrivals hall only moments after arriving back in the UK on a flight from Kenya on New Year's Day"

I thought this kind of thing wasn't supposed to happen?? They should send the bill to the Airline for allowing her on the Plane in such an advanced state.

Absolutely, Broady. Makes a mockery of the naysayers.

britlad..erm, Canada is a big country with a lot o space keep y head down lad, cos I reckon sooner rather than later, you know who will be heading your way to fill up those spaces...ya hear????keep schtum, so far they may have overlooked ya.

OOPS....sorry britlad, thought you wuz in Cansda.

One in ten children under the age of four is now Muslim in England and Wales, the latest statistics show. In the under-fives age group there are nearly twice as many people identified as Muslim as in the general population, census data reveals. The figures suggest a change in the UK’s younger generation of worshippers as less than 0.5 per cent of over 85s in Britain identify as Muslim. Glad I won't be around in 50 years time to see the mess that's been created in this once great country.

NEVER i wonder if he gat a national insurance nummer first Romanian migrant Victor Spirescu’s career at a car wash lasted just a day before he quit, it emerged last night.
Spirescu, 30, arrived in Britain on New Year’s Day to be greeted at Luton airport by Labour MP Keith Vaz – the chairman of the Commons Home Affairs Committee. Spirescu was one of the first to arrive as controls on migrants from Romania and Bulgaria lapsed.

Story


Should be found and deported for lying...Ooo....an idea

"Glad I won't be around in 50 years time to see the mess that's been created in this once great country"

Vote Labour..... They'll sort it out ...... permanently

dont know weather this is tonge in cheek or not

mac
deportation! radical thinking, can it cure our ills.?

Can at least start the medication.

No, multiculturalism needs to resigned to the pages of history before you can START.

The socialists are always rattling on about how we need a new definition of what it is to be English. We dont need one. Remove multiculturalism, confirm this as a christian country and it will sort itself out

People in this country no longer wish to be Christian. Fact! Look at the churches around you, they sell furniture now or used as warehousing. I hear that wearing an crucifix is deemed wrong because it may upset other religions, bollocks! They are not worn as a sign of Christianity anymore now, just as jewellery. So why complain when others of another faith follow their religion with devotion, and I don't just mean Islam. We love to wring our hands in this country and blame others for taking our way of life from us, we are giving it away and have been doing it for many, many years. How many of you on here who are complaining about Islam and Muslims actually are devout Christians?

Surely this topic is about immigration not religion

I replied to an statement of this being an Christian country.

"
People in this country no longer wish to be Christian. Fact! "

you dont have to be a christian to live in this Christian Country people have ever since it WAS Christian.

The point is this. If you and the rest of the athiests DONT CARE A TOSS then that void will be filled by people who DO CARE A TOSS and that will be Muslims. Islam will become this countries religion by default and they will not have had to do anything.

Lets see what you say when that leads to areas ruled by Sharia law ..... it could be yours.

Think it wont? They are already trying it on in various places around the country

I didn't state you "had to be" I said people no longer wish to be Christian in GB now. Who said I was an atheist? I am RC but you are right I don't give a toss, I shall see to my lot when I deem it right to do so.

So when are you all going on the streets to fight against Sharia Law and the Muslim hoards who are pushing for it? I 'll tell you when .....Never, cos it's easier to skryke about it on WW from the comfort of your houses.

In a word Baloney.

"So when are you all going on the streets to fight against Sharia Law"

Dont know but because of people with your mentality, head in the sand, thats where it all always up. Its already started with the EDL and the real fascists the UAF.

There should be no need to go on the streets its a matter of removing the 1000's of SOCIAL LAWS brought in since the 60's and everything will come back to normal in time.

You dont know what democracy is Joseph and I really dont think you have the capacity to understand it so I wont bother explaining it

Well get out on the streets and do it, not bitch on here were it won't make an difference. Go on, do it!

I dont need to as I use my vote. Getting out on the street is for anarchists, violent socialists or as a LAST RESORT not a first option

Stop playing the political big man and do something about the mess you say we are in, get on the streets or down to the ports/airports and physically stop them. But you wont! Will you?

Get in with the boots lad!

Will do in next election as it will see UKIP make big strides and this insanity of multiculturalism receding but it will take a long time because the infection of political correctness runs deep not just in the parties but through out government, local government and its departments and public institutions.

Your methods get people killed

Oh I see, talk the talk but let others walk the walk. B company man is it? Be there waving them off and B there when they get back!

Not at all. I would be quite prepared to pull a trigger if the time came but we are not at that stage now and there is an opportunity at the next election for a reversal of the path we are now on.

If the clowns who vote Labour or Lib dem have their way then I and more in a few years time could see sectarianism as in Northern Ireland but on a much much grander scale and all the violence that goes with it because Labour will still continue with their immigration and multicultural policy

Oh okay!

just glad that i wont be around to see it

Don't count your chickens before they hatch billy. I reckon another 5 years from now you will have a muslim prime minister and Sharia law will have been well established

An Afghan man has been granted asylum in Britain because of his ‘human right’ to religion - despite him being an atheist. He came to Britain six years ago and since then has abandoned his Muslim faith. Now the Home Office have granted him refugee status, because he says he will face persecution if sent home. His lawyers say it is the first time anyone has been given asylum on religious grounds who is an atheist. I reckon that half the middle east will soon be atheists!

So anybody from a Muslim country now just has to claim to be an atheist and they can come in? So what happens once they are here and they suddenly "find faith" again?

UKIP leader Nigel Farage has called for immigrants to be barred from receiving any benefits until they have been resident in the UK for five years. He also suggested they should not be eligible for tax credits. It comes as a survey suggests 77% of Britons want to see immigration cut. The coalition brought in a three month ban on EU citizens getting out-of-work benefits ahead of work restrictions being lifted for Bulgarians and Romanians on 1 January. But Mr Farage, whose party fought the last election on a policy of halting immigration for five years, said the government should go much further. He said the cost of migrants claiming in-work welfare payments, such as child benefit, housing benefit and tax credits, had not been factored in to the government's calculations. "We must be completely mad, as a country, to be giving people from Eastern Europe in-work benefits," he told BBC News. And he said lower economic growth was a price worth paying for cutting immigration. "Even if I thought, which I don't, there was an economic benefit to mass immigration some things are more important than money, namely the shape of our society and giving our own youngsters a chance to work."

"So anybody from a Muslim country now just has to claim to be an atheist and they can come in? So what happens once they are here and they suddenly "find faith" again?"

They already claim to be homosexual or bi-sexual ti get in

Spot on there HWP, or they have a pet cat or one legged brother!

todays telegraph Ten years of record immigration to Britain has produced virtually no economic benefits for the country, a parliamentary inquiry has found. A House of Lords committee, which is due to report next Tuesday, will call into question Government claims that foreign workers add £6 billion each year to the wealth of the nation. It is expected to say this must be balanced against the increase in population and their use of local services such as health and education, resulting in little benefit per head of the population. "Our overall conclusion is that the economic benefits of net immigration to the resident population are very small and close to zero in the long run," the report will say. The findings of the Lords economics committee threaten to demolish the key argument made by ministers to justify the highest levels of immigration in the country's history.

God save the queen!

Chose your own god 😱

An elderly woman was left on the floor at a care home for up to ten minutes because a nurse was praying, an inquest heard. Alzheimer's sufferer Dorothy Griffiths, 87, was found sitting down after staff heard a bang and a carer went to the office for help to lift her. But agency nurse Abdul Bhutto, who was in charge, said they would have to wait. Carer Zoe Shaw told the Sheffield hearing: "It took between five and ten minutes because he was praying upstairs in the office on his prayer mat. A staff member told me we had to wait for him to finish." She died later in hospital. Mr Bhutto failed to appear at the inquest and a summons had to be issued for him to attend the resumed hearing later in the year.

You should see what the white Anglo Saxon carers do to their own.......

Three nursing home staff have been jailed and a fourth given a community sentence for tormenting and abusing elderly residents with dementia, actions described by the trial judge as "gratuitous sport at the expense of vulnerable victims".

The court heard residents at Hillcroft nursing home in Slyne-with-Hest, Lancashire, were pelted with bean bags, mocked and bullied on the assumption their condition meant they would not remember the abuse. One man's foot was deliberately stamped on and another was nearly tipped out of his wheelchair.

During the sentencing hearing at Preston crown court the son of one resident said the family viewed the decision to place him at Hillcroft as the "worst of our lives" and believed managers covered up the incidents.

The judge, Michael Byrne, said the actions of Darren Smith, 35, Carol Ann Moore, 54, Katie Cairns, 27, and Gemma Pearson, 28, were "an indictment" of the home's managers.

He said: "Much evidence in the trial revealed that there was, at the relevant times, a lax regime with weak and inadequate management on the unit which allowed the kind of conduct to carry on undetected and without proper and adequate control." He added: "Some of the offences were gratuitous sport at the expense of vulnerable victims."

Smith, who admitted eight counts of ill-treating people with impaired mental capacity, was jailed for eight months. The other three staff were found guilty of the same offence in November. Cairns was jailed for five months and Moore for four months. Pearson was given a 12-month community order and told to carry out 40 hours of unpaid work.

The offences took place between May 2010 and September 2011, when a receptionist and a cleaner told managers that Moore had struck a resident, and raised other concerns. The four were suspended, but later reinstated with warnings.

Managers decided there was insufficient evidence to mount a wider investigation or pass on the complaints to social services, the court heard. When local authority staff visited the home, managers did not mention the staff suspensions.

Later, the Care Quality Commission (CQC) received anonymous emails about the home. The four were arrested in October 2012 when Lancashire County Council told police about the complaints and a full inquiry began.

Initially, all the defendants insisted they had done nothing wrong, blaming office politics and cliques among staff.

After the sentencing Detective Chief Inspector Andy Hulme described the actions as "utterly contemptible". He said: "I would once again like to take this opportunity to commend those members of staff who displayed great courage and decency in speaking out against this despicable behaviour. This couldn't have been an easy thing for them to do, but what I must emphasise is the families' gratitude towards them for coming forward."

Michael Rowlinson, whose father, Norman, was placed in Hillcroft because he had Alzheimer's, read a statement from the witness box. He said: "We had feelings of guilt for not being able to look after him. Our feelings of guilt only worsened when we found out that Dad had been subjected to humiliation and ill-treatment by those who were trusted to care for him.

"We feel angry this could have been allowed to happen to Dad and sorry that Mum had to learn about it."

Judge Byrne said three common themes emerged from the statements given by families.

He said: "In each and every case the victim's family trusted the home to look after their relative. Secondly, many of the families felt a sense of guilt of having to give up the care of one of their family to be cared for by strangers. And thirdly, the anger and resentment at the trust being betrayed."

2 wrongs dont make a right they are both terrible crimes ans should be punished

Then why just post about the one with a Prayer Mat?

Failed asylum seekers have been given an £80,000 astroturf football pitch paid for by taxpayers as schools are forced to sell their own grounds. Asylum seekers got their own sports facility at Campsfield House Oxfordshire, to use while they are waiting to be deported. While struggling schools are selling their own facilities to pay for improvements, the 216 men at the centre also have a fitness suite, IT centre, library and are given money for winning sports competitions.

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Not at all. I would be quite prepared to pull a trigger if the time came




Course you would! From a hidden sniper position!

Is that you prince?

i would be preparec to pull the trigger as well

A new analysis of benefit figures has revealed that a newly arrived 'asylum seeker' with three children can claim more in benefits per month than a British pensioner. If the “asylum seeker” or refugee has more dependents, the amount of benefits rises proportionally. Currently, the basic state pension for a single British person is £95.25 a week. This rises to £152.30 for a couple. Whether they get this full amount depends on how many national insurance contribution years they have completed. The basic pension is lower than the income support threshold, so if they have no other income, state pensioners can top up with income support. This comes in the form of a means-tested Pension Credit which brings the weekly amount up to £130 for a single person and £198.45 for a couple. 'Asylum seekers', on the other hand, get £40 per week for gas and electricity and another £35 per week per person towards food, clothing and toiletries. This means that an 'asylum seeker' family of four gets £140 for food and another £40 for gas and electricity, brining their total to £180 in one week

billyh,
The first thing I know is wrong is that the Basic state pension is 110.15 per week. Hope the rest of the figures are more accurate. It may be an out of date report.

Bill It is the child benefit scheme which is the real goldmine for asylum seekers. 'Asylum-seeker' lone parent benefits are £42.16 per week, with £50 per week per child. A single 'asylum seeker' with three children will automatically qualify for cash payments of £192.16 per week, almost the same as a British pensioner couple. This is however just the straight cash grant. In addition to this money, 'asylum seekers' with dependents also qualify for further subsidies as per the list above, which pushes their real income way above that given to British pensioners. Finally, 'asylum seekers' are entitled to register with a local GP and receive services from the NHS, all courtesy of the taxpayer.

The more the merrier I say. They will put to shame our very own scroungers.

very good coment james it will put our oaps to shame as well eh

A woman made legal history yesterday as she stood trial in a full face veil.

Rebekah Dawson, 22, became the first defendant to wear the covering at court after a judge ruled ‘freedom of religious expression’ should be recognised.

District Judge Peter Murphy told jurors that Dawson had a right to wear a niqab during the trial but that she would have to remove it if she wanted to give evidence. He ruled: ‘The courts must respect and protect religious rights as far as that can possibly be done. ‘But in my view, it is necessary to the working of the crown court in a democratic society for the court, not the defendant to control the conduct of judicial proceedings.’ At Blackfriars Crown Court yesterday, Dawson argued that forcing her to remove the veil to give evidence violated her right to a fair trial under the European Convention on Human Rights. But Judge Murphy rejected the application, saying that jurors being unable to see her was contrary to the principle of open justice which overrides religious belief.

if I wuz a member of the klu klux clan, could I be given the same considerations????yeah right

it shudnt be allowed billy how come other countrys wont put up with this nonsense

The wife of a Kosovar deported from Switzerland will have to go with him, the Federal Court in Lausanne ruled on Friday. It refused to extend to her a law which in certain cases allows a foreign wife to stay in Switzerland even if her husband must leave. The Federal Court explained that if a couple is married, a wife cannot remain in Switzerland when her residence permit depends on that of her husband, who has to leave the country. The Kosovar in question arrived in Switzerland in 1993 at the age of ten. In 2006, he was sentenced to 21 months in prison. In 2008, he got married and went on to commit various offences. In 2011, canton Lucerne revoked his residence permit and then refused to extend that of his wife. The Federal Court thus confirmed this decision by canton Lucerne. It refused to extend to her a clause under the foreigners act which allows wives who are victims of domestic violence to be able to stay in Switzerland – on condition that they have separated or divorced. The issue of what to do with foreigners who break the law is a hot issue in Switzerland.
In November 2013, cabinet urged parliament to strike a clause in an initiative calling for the automatic deportation of foreigners found guilty of a crime.

and they can stay here cos they have a cat

AND STILL THEY COME

Hundreds my backside, it will be thousands drip fed in over the next 3 months or so

EVEN MORE ON THE WAY

you could not make it up

Let em in, give em a meat pie.

That should see em all off Joseph

No they will enjoy them and eat them with much gusto! Plenty room for all I say.

I know you do... I cant agree with ya though shut the gates we are over loaded.

"Let em in, give em a meat pie."

just make sure its a Poole's. One taste and they'll be off to holland

HAHAHA! Hollands meyt pies.

dont now how you can laugh cos in a few more years you wont be

I will! I don't scare easily.

joseph ther will come a time when you will be scared and it wont be that long a way

No. I' not like you.

Migrants would be forced to pay a £2,000 bond to enter Britain to cover the cost of them claiming benefits and using services, Nick Clegg's favourite think tank said today. The National Insurance Advance would be paid by anyone from outside the EU and would only be refunded once they have paid enough tax or left the country without becoming a drain on the welfare state. The radical report for CentreForum, written by a Lib Dem policy adviser, will heap pressure on Mr Clegg to go further in promising tougher action to deal with immigration.

It will never happen, its just more smoke and mirrors.

Regardless of your views on this contentious topic , this (from the BBC) is insane

David Cameron has said he agrees with the aims of Tory MPs pushing for a ban on foreign criminals using European human rights law to avoid deportation.

No 10 has told Tories not to oppose a rebel amendment to the Immigration Bill, although ministers will abstain as the measure may be illegal.

sorry walter i dont understand what does this mean

It means he's sitting on the fence once again like a headless chicken and doesn't know what to do!

Hopefully Paul is referring to ToryBoy Cameron and not me !

What it means Billy is that, in one sense,UKIP is winning the argument on the right of politics. Like the Tea Party in the US the right wing party is scared of and being driven further right by a pressure group. I guess the big difference is that Tea Party actually have a significant number of elected officials whereas I truly don't belive that UKIP will ever have any more seats in HOC than other pressure group parties like the Greens.
They will win seats in Euro Elections (big old dose of irony anyone?)and at a local levelbut never at nationallevel (in my opinion)

As far as UKIP is concerned their success is all about belief. If you can crack the myth that "its no point voting for them as they'll never get in" then they are on a winner. Its a myth.

The one thing that UKIP have though that the others dont are policies that the public agree with and you know they MEAN IT unlike the main parties particularly Labour who have a hidden agenda and have no intention of changing it only flim flamming the voter with meaningless bull

Like the ukip guy who blames the bad weather on same sex marriage. Flim flam like that you mean?

Go away with your drivel

link

Link so pastry doesn't forget what loons there are in ukip

So what there are far bigger loons in the main parties AND bare face liars

A Labour councillor has claimed he has fathered a child with an alien and that the regular sex he has with the extra terrestrial is causing tension in his human marriage.

Simon Parkes, who represents Stakesby on Whitby Town Council, told the Northern Echo he has had a child called Zarka with an alien he refers to as the Cat Queen.

So that makes what the ukip guy says ok then does it?
Government policy changes the weather

Calm down.

The difference is that the UKIP guy is a man of faith and he is ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION that the storms were an act of god.

""The scriptures make it abundantly clear that a Christian nation that abandons its faith and acts contrary to the Gospel (and in naked breach of a coronation oath) will be beset by natural disasters such as storms, disease, pestilence and war.""

The Labour guy is simply a loon.

You dont get it, the attacks on low level UKIP members is just an attempt to bring them down. All three main parties have their own LOONS and the Liberals even allowed Hardcore porn director Anna Arrowsmith to stand for them as Gravesham MP. Just the sort of person to guard the nations morality not that there is much of that about today

Talk about defending the indefensible.

and still on that topic about the immoral Liberals

link

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Talk about defending the indefensible."

Are you attacking Christians for having faith?

You're saying that faith allows you believe any old bunkum?

Only in your opinion.

Its written in the scriptures.

You can have whatever opinion you like as long as it doesn't effect your job or position. If you are voted in to represent people its none of your business or anyone elses it was the voters choice.

If he says and believes the storms were an act of god then thats fine, its his belief.

By the way

"You're saying that faith allows you believe any old bunkum?"

a democratic society allows you to do that but we dont have one because of fascists like you.

For such an obviously intelligent chap you certainly have a lot of anger, disagreeing about politics (even contentious issues such as this) is a good thing but you seem totally blinkered in your views,how on earth can you describe the previous poster as a "facist" ?

because they are saying that people should not BE ALLOWED hold a religious opinion. Thats fascism

He may be entitled to his own opinion (based on his religious beliefs) but he isn't allowed his own facts mate.

facism couldnt agree more hotwaterpastry

Phew! I'm glad you didn't agree with me billyh.

ha ha

Good Idea: A senior Ukip politician plunged his party into fresh controversy last night after calling on Muslims to sign a special code of conduct to prove they reject violence. Gerard Batten, a London MEP and the party’s spokesman on immigration, said it was a big mistake for Europe to allow ‘an explosion of mosques across their land’!!

"it was a big mistake for Europe to allow ‘an explosion of mosques across their land’!!"

...it has already happened.


Paul's Link

Its so much harder to put the horse back in the stable after its bolted.

The Socialists have history to answer too.

"I WANDERED LONELY AS A CLOUD"

I WANDERED lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

Continuous as the stars that shine
And twinkle on the milky way,
They stretched in never-ending line
Along the margin of a bay: 10
Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Tossing their heads in sprightly dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they
Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:
A poet could not but be gay,
In such a jocund company:
I gazed--and gazed--but little thought
What wealth the show to me had brought:

For oft, when on my couch I lie
In vacant or in pensive mood, 20
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude;
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils.

I doubt you will ever see this England again!

"A poet could not but be gay,"

and definitely not that bit

Typical philistine and homophobic at that...what a combination!

at least you can say that today but in a few years free speech will be banned

A sad day when that happens!

it will happen sooner than you think with all our left wink unatics running the show and stickin up for those from abroad

"Typical philistine and homophobic at that...what a combination!"

Drivelling claptrap

hahaha

A judge has described the UK’s borders as 'a leaking sieve' after an illegal immigrant drug dealer was deported three times only to return each time to commit more crimes.
Albanian national Baksim Bushati, 37, was sentenced to seven years in prison after he was found to have almost 1kg of cocaine worth £26,875 and £14,000 in cash at his home.
Since 2005, he has been sentenced to prison terms totalling nearly five years for offences of violence, battery and possessing false identification. Despite being deported from the UK following each jail term, he returned to commit more crimes. Yesterday, Judge Richard Bray criticised the Government as he sentenced Bushati to his latest prison stretch, saying the UK’s borders 'leaked like a sieve.'These things make a classic study for people who want to see if the Home Office and the Border Agency are doing their jobs properly,' the judge told Northampton Crown Court.

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"Typical philistine and homophobic at that...what a combination!"

Drivelling claptrap

Replied: 5th Feb 2014 at 19:10

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Ooops! A bit of freedom of speech didn't work for you HWP ?

It's all lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies! lies!

You're a racist, the judge is a racist, the court is racist and the media are a bunch of racists ..... these people are just misunderstood .. they are only making a living for themselves and their families. You would really complain if they were signing on wouldn't you if they were not doing a hard days work distributing happiness in the community?

I have my own agenda and it does not include the raving loons of the UK, I made my move 13 years ago and it certainly seems the right move on reflection.

@brot boy

"Ooops! A bit of freedom of speech didn't work for you HWP ?"

Worked fine ........... you got some back

Hey...I'm a big boy now, no problem 😘

be afrai be very afraid Group of "Britons" waging jihad in Syria have threatened to carry out terror attacks in the UK.
The extremists warned of atrocities on London’s public transport and financial centres. They are believed to be the first direct threats of terrorist strikes in the West to emerge from Syria, where hundreds of Britons are among thousands of foreign fighters who have joined jihadist rebel groups.

"I'm a big boy now,"

a few of your compatriots on this side of the pond never reached that state of development thanks to Political Correctness

No problem...I guess 3500 miles of ocean works for me 👍

Best move you could have made britboy, Britain is going down the pan, have a great life in the USA.

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"I'm a big boy now,"

a few of your compatriots on this side of the pond never reached that state of development thanks to Political Correctness over here


Replied: 6th Feb 2014 at 15:49

Hey...if the people of the UK want to roll over and play dead rather than tackle the crap in their own back yard that's their problem.

" rather than tackle the crap"

They dont thats the problem, they rather blame the tories, UKIP, BNP, EDL, Racists, Homophobes in fact everything except the root cause.

I know who I blame!!

The people

It was pointed out to me by a USA lawyer once that the people of the UK are governed from the top down but the USA people govern from the bottom up....in other worlds a government for the people by the people....I can only think the man was a dope head!

Money governs people...just have to follow the money in the USA and that will determine the next president of the USA

the americans wouldnt put up with som of the things goin on over here

shoud come round my street Three religious vigilantes who terrorised innocent members of the public as the self-styled ‘Muslim Patrol’ have been banned from promoting Sharia Law in Britain. Jordan Horner, 20, Royal Barnes, 23, and Ricardo MacFarlane, 26, were jailed for a total of two years and ten months for touring East London harassing people they deemed to be ‘non-believers’. The three men were today also slapped with a five-year Asbo banning them from distributing material about Sharia Law to the public, or even meeting each other. The trio are also banned from associating with controversial preacher Anjem Choudary.
Judge Timothy Pontius admitted the order was ‘drastic’ but added: ‘With the public interest in mind and the safety of individual members of the public in particular, it seems to me essential that these orders should be granted to run for that period of time.’ The leader of the gang, white Muslim convert Horner, who has declared he wants Sharia law in the UK, attacked people drinking in the street and demanded: ‘Remove yourselves now. Muslim Patrol.’ Barnes is a pal of Lee Rigby murderer Michael Adebolajo, and last week admitted making a string of sickening videos celebrating the deadly attack on the soldier in Woolwich.

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Stepped up a gear have we Billy. Now tell me you are not a racist.

It isnt racist to be aware and post the truth... since when has the truth been racist...Also he is entitled to be sick to the back teeth of a very valid threat to UK identity and the general public... even if he is racist then he is entitled to be so whether or not you agree is a choice and your entitled to it just as billyh is entitled his choice.

It was well copied and pasted though.

It's his choice of language that I object to and I'm as entitled to voice my opinions as he is. And you know what they say about freedom of speech. Along with it comes responsibilities.

What annoys me is the continual racist card at everything regarding an opinion on Islam... that's what annoys me. Who determines what is acceptable as that is simply a matter of opinion. Everyone is responsible for what they post and that will be ok by some but not others. I know this much its very easy to be liberal when you dont live with it day by day.

There are wrong doings on both sides but it does no good keep instilling one sided ill feelings into people. Billy was telling people "To fight it and fight it hard". Now what is that supposed to mean? That kind of language is not helpful when we have to live side by side. He has not had one positive thing to say about either immigrants or Muslims.

A lot of them make a positive contribution to our society. I wonder how many have been treated by immigrant doctors,nurses and dentists? But no mention of these whatsoever. It's all about how evil they are.

we all know there is good and bad everywhere,you can't turn round and say everybody from a particular race or religion is a scumbag or an extremist,the problem lies where the rest of those particular communities refuse to condemn the ones who are, thus are presumed guilty by association.

I think it maybe more complicated than that, although you do have a valid point.

more than a valid point jathbee

Billy you need to read and digest what was said and not cherry pick the posts.

what about this then A Muslim woman was allowed to wear a veil while giving evidence – even though a judge had to try to confirm who she was from photographs. The crucial witness in a deportation case had her entire face, apart from her eyes, covered by a niqab. Farcically, a judge was left trying to check her identity using a visa document with a photograph of her unveiled. He had to peer at the small visible portion of her face in the vain hope of working out if it matched the picture. The immigration tribunal’s decision has been quashed by a senior judge, who said it was procedurally unfair. A new hearing will now take place. tis cannot be write

Is It Any Wonder They are All Smiling??

we are doomed Rudi Ion struggles to count up the children from his huge Romanian clan who now call Britain home. It could be 100, he tells me. ‘I’ve got 25 cousins all living around Nottingham, each with three or four kids,’ he adds with a loud laugh This week, the EU Commissioner for Employment, Social Affairs and Inclusion, Laszlo Andor, attacked the so-called xenophobia of British politicians over the issue of migrants coming to Britain and claiming welfare. He grandiosly announced: ‘Benefits tourism as such is a myth.’Yet Rudi readily admits that our generous benefits’ culture does encourage Romanians to uproot to the UK, where they can claim state money for the children they bring with them.‘Your benefits system is crazy — I would actually say it was sick,’ he says, as he makes a gesture involving sticking his two fingers down his throat. ‘I came to Nottingham to stay with a cousin and found a good private accountant who told me how to claim the benefits. I soon brought over my family, too.‘I have never been told to look for work by the job centre. I have never called back there after I got the National Insurance number. Why would I want a real boss when I get £300 put into my bank account each week for nothing? ‘There is the child benefit of £170 a month for Ionut and Constantin, too. In Romania, we were only given £17 a month for them. Now I sing “God praise your Queen Elizabeth” every day, because we have arrived in heaven.

Nothing for Roma gypsies in Romania, but come to Britain where the streets are paved in gold, so while him and his large family of kids and relatives live a life of welfare, free medical and housing the rest of Britain is under water and will be struggling to get back to normal, good on Blair, Brown and Cameron

Benfitopia! 🎉🎉🎉

Bold as brass the government and the lefties joseph darren tell us we need more immigration

Why do you assume I'm one of the "lefties"?

Still if it makes you happy making things up carry on.

1st of january Where are they all? I was expecting to find Romanian and Bulgarians running wild in town after all your warnings is that left enogh

That doesn't make sense?

thats wat i thought as well

Oh lord! Your post does not make any sense as to the point of me being an leftie.

I think his obsession with immigrants and Muslims have turned his brain to mush, Joseph.

I give up. Jath.

Me too Joe.

Just let the water level rise, Ooops it already has in the south of England, must be the sudden increase in immigrants, UK is sinking, bale out, bale out!!!

....no danger of the expected Syrian lot being dropped off in Somerset..

Can't claim benefits if the office is flooded!!

as i said befor were doomed

is this a joke no christians allowed Legoland has been hired out to a radical Muslim cleric for a ‘Family Fun Day’. Maybe that’s ‘Fun’ as in ‘Fundamentalism’. The theme park in Windsor, Berkshire, has accepted a booking from a man said to be among the top 25 hate preachers in Britain. Haitham al-Haddad leads the Muslim Research and Development Foundation, which is based in Tower Hamlets, and is in favour of turning this country into a Sharia state.
Legoland Windsor: Al-Haddad is an enthusiastic supporter of Taliban policies, believes that Jews are ‘descended from apes and pigs’, homosexuals are criminals and those who leave Islam should be killed. Usama Hasan, of the moderate, anti- terrorism think tank, the Quilliam Foundation, said: ‘Like all extreme Islamists, he uses fascist language about non-Muslims and refuses to sit at the same table as women.’
Al-Haddad’s repugnant views are as abhorrent to mainstream Muslims as they are to the rest of us and have led to him being banned but not Legoland. On March 9, a convoy of coaches will set off from the East London Mosque in Whitechapel for a day of ‘Halal entertainment’. We’re not talking the Jolly Boys’ Outing to Margate here!

I bet that cost him a bob or two.

would they ever have a catholics only day or a jew day There is a deep shadow creeping across the world, and if not stopped, it will plunge the world as we know it into an era that will make the dark ages look like a happy holiday

Had to laugh at Billyh's post, given the Danish cartoon ructions several years ago (Lego is a Danish company) and knowing that they don't like bacon - I am surprised they want anything to do with Legoland at all.

Ooooooooh the irony

"He has claimed ­Jewish people are descended from “apes and pigs”"

....last I heard, we were all descended from apes.

yes yeg grower but where are all the protesters no body cares

we are adrift and caught up in a whirlpool.

The UK has slipped its ancor!
Here's hoping it doesn't drift over to the USA 😮

Well I'm sat here on me steed sword in hand waiting for order to move out and engage the foe, God Wills It!

Who's with me?

I know the Yanks will leave it for a couple of years before they decide....again.

Anyone?

Well?

Oh come on, Or void the field, cos I'm going in for me tea soon.

I having me tea as well Joseph so it'll have to wait.

I'll look after the horses and armour while you both eat your tea. But don't eat too much, it's not good slaying the enemy on a full stomach

you have a good laugh jathbee but you will be laughin on the other side of your face in a few years

I already use both sides when I laugh.

Bloody hell billyh you're a worrier you are. Cheer up for goodness sake. Take your sandwich board off, give your back a rest.

just tellin it as i see it jamse and there is nothing wrong with my back

The people who think it's clever to sit back and "celebrate multi cultural Britain" are our real enemies. The same people who have probably never experienced living in a street that within 10 years completely changes its character.From being a friendly place where you always had someone to talk to,to a road where you feel like a stranger in your own land.Where you feel unsafe and intimidated by the whole atmosphere.Where you know they want you out,as they then want more of their countrymen to take your home over.

Are you speaking from your own experience, Billy?

yes i am jathbee

Where is this billyh?

KATIE Hopkins was at the centre of a number of heated debates about border controls on The Big British Immigration Row: The opinionated columnist said that hard working Britons have "had enough" of the immigration issue and Britain tackles the topic with a "soft touch". The ex-Apprentice star said the country's schools and hospitals are "full" and that the UK should only let in "tier one" individuals who are skilled. Talking about the issue on the Channel 5 programme, Mrs Hopkins said: "Nobody is standing up for the people at home who have had enough of immigration. "Of queuing for school places, at doctors. Frankly, if you need an interpreter to get a doctor's appointment you shouldn't be using our NHS. "If you need an interpreter then you need a travel agent and should get packing. "Hard working people in this country have had enough."

Katie Hopkins is correct of course, I don't agree with her on many things - but on the issue of immigration, she clearly hits the nail on the head. Shame that it has (like every other issue these days) turned into another 'Twitter' saga.

Story

Not so much a TV debate, as full time pro-immigration activists on one side (with their own microphone though, so a bit of bias there!), and anti-immigration people having to shout to be heard over the raucous din of the 'let them all in brigade'. As usual the pro-immigrant activists used their loud voices to drown out any real chance of debate, but on that program, there wasn't going to be any. Usual farce, usual outcome. Katie Hopkins was the best and most coherent person on that program. She's right on the button with her truthful comments.

more fun
One sham marriage may be happening in the UK every single hour, shocking figures revealed last night. Official figures show that between January and October last year, a total of 7,606 fake weddings were reported to the Home Office. Yet despite the huge scale of the problem, just 90 people were deported over the same period for engaging in false marriages to gain entry to the UK. It means that for every 85 sham marriages, just one person is being thrown out of the country. Experts said the appalling record sent out the unmistakeable signal to criminals that there will be no comeback if people enter a false partnership. Labour said the figures showed the Coalition was ‘presiding over a broken immigration system’. The party’s immigration spokesman, David Hanson, said: ‘This record speaks for itself. More sham marriages and fewer deportations. ‘People want the rules to be enforced, and these figures show the Government simply isn’t doing that.

If you want to watch hypocrisy at its best then tune in to channel 5 at 11 tonight!

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Excellent, just think of the economic and fiscal gains to the UK. Instead of our vey own bleeding us dry through the benefits system.

Its Rubbish. Vince Cable is following his party line thats all. The Liberal/Democrats are just a bunch of numpties angling for votes and distancing themselves from the tories and UKIP.

Your short sighted thoughts beggar belief !!

All are welcome who bring prosperity to the UK.

What beggars belief is the no sightedness. We are already the most densely populated country in Europe for a start. There is nothing wrong with controlled immigration as in Autralia BUT THERE IS NO LIMIT AT THIS MOMENT and Joseph is talking in sound bytes not common sense.

Mass immigration from Europe is a necessity for the left to force EU integration and render the nation state meaningless. You have no idea how you are being used

absolutely right stop imigration today

Absolute rubbish!

No its not rubbish at all. You have not a clue in how these people operate. Mass immigration is all about Europe and multiculturalism. Its as simple as that. Andrew Nether already has admitted that about multiculturalism. I suppose thats rubbish as well?

there will always be a level of immigration that we need. such as medical professionals etc, and whilst we can't (for the moment anyway) restrict immigration from within the e.u we can restrict immigration from outside it, given the levels of unemployment amongst those entitled to work here, why do we need to import unskilled labour to work as pizza delivery boys and taxi drivers etc?

well said mick but you will always get peaple like joseph who dont or cant believe it

At last! a resasoned response towards immigration (Mick-dorset). you are right, we shouldn't have to rely on immigrants to do these unskilled tasks. Unfortunately there are a lot of unemployed people (that's the correct spelling billyh) in this country who either feel that this type of work is beneath them or are too lazy to get off their backsides and earn a living instead of relying on others to provide for them. Stop all immigration??? you are a joke billyh...

"feel that this type of work is beneath them or are too lazy to get off their backsides and earn a living instead of relying on others to provide for them. Stop all immigration"

Thats because benefits have been too high. Benefits are now being cut to encourage the "lazy" to get back into work but THERE ARE NO JOBS even ones that were beneath them that they would be FORCED to take.

You've said it yourself and so has joseph that in REALITY immigrants HAVE TAKEN OUR JOBS just by the fact they are here eg.

"we shouldn't have to rely on immigrants to do these unskilled tasks"

We dont have to and never HAD to but its the side effect of the Socialists BUYING VOTES bumping up benefit and creating rules that make it easy to "Live on the dole"

It isn't that benefits are too high, the minimum wage has become a noose around the neck of the lowest paid as there isn't a great deal of difference between that and being on benefits.

I'm not claiming any benefit at the moment, but the perks that go with benefits of any kind such as free precriptions etc make being on the dole seem much easier.

If we trained our young people properly there would be no need for immigration of any kind. The country is full and all services are stretched to breaking point - it is foolhardy to continue to allow more foreigners into the country!

"If we trained our young people properly there would be no need for immigration of any kind."

There is NO INCENTIVE for companies to train people anymore because skills can be had for free brought in by MASS IMMIGRATION.

"It isn't that benefits are too high, the minimum wage has become a noose around the neck of the lowest paid as there isn't a great deal of difference between that and being on benefits."

The minimum wage is really not the problem. Benefits are the problem because they have distorted everything from pushing up rents to depressing wages

No, Billyh you will always get people like me who don't believe scaremongers like yourself, who only copy and paste what is in the papers and do not have the mental capacity to think for themselves.

joseph how do these peaple benefit Britain?? Perhaps its the child benefit that we pay for children who don't live in Britain, or the benefit payments, child and working tax credits? Maybe its the soaring crime rate and full to bursting prisons. I can see how paying a fortune to translators gives us Brits the feel good factor. Our young people are delighted at the prospect of life on the dole and our pensioners are more that happy to carry on starving and freezing.

" mental capacity to think for themselves"

But thats must be based on something more substantial than just saying its "Rubbish" "Nonsense" etc etc etc. You must have something to back that up.

Said this before. Instead of just shouting "rubbish" "racist" "nazis" etc etc at the BNP 10-15 years ago when they claimed white girls were deliberately being targeted by Asian gangs for grooming there would be a few thousand less young girls lives ruined than would have been if people had taken the time to examine the evidence that was CLEARLY there. The evidence that immigration is far to high and its negative effects are CLEARLY there people are just in denial about it because they are trying to be one of the "tolerant tribe". Politicians put a positive spin on immigration not to JUSTIFY it but to control racial division and the undoubted social unrest that would occur if the WHOLE TRUTH were known

Cameron said he would control NET MIGRATION "No ifs or buts" now finds he cant do it with immigration now running at 500,000 a yr.

So why do you think Vince Cable has suddenly came out with "Immigration is good"?

The fact that Camerons u-turn plays directly into the hands of UKIP wouldn't have anything to do with it would it?

Not something to do with controlling public opinion on Europe would it?

mr pastry for immigration minister

well said hotwaterpastry and you have shut joseph up as well

in a nother ten years Britain will be a mongrel nation with Christianity in the minority along with the laws and decisions made in Brussels regarding this country to the full

abandon ship while you can im to old

Nobody shuts me up!

Don't abandon ship, just stay shivering with fear down your rabbit hole.

maybe this will shut you up
Legoland Windsor has called off the day out for the Muslim Research and Development Foundation after taking advice from Thames Valley Police. Protestors, Windsor residents and a local Ukip councillor had asked Legoland to cancel the group’s private booking because it is run by by Haitham al-Haddad, who has been banned from speaking at a British universities due to his anti-Western views. Mr al-Haddad’s charity had promised a day of “halal entertainment” but his previous views are controversial. He is reported to be on a list of 25 “hate clerics” identified by security chiefs and Downing Street as candidates for anti-extremism Asbo banning orders. He has spoken in favour of a form of female genital mutilation, although he recognises it is illegal in Britain, and following the death of Osama bin Laden he wrote because he was a Muslim he would “enter paradise”. The ultra conservative cleric, who is of Palestinian origin, is a member of the Islamic Sharia Council.

Now why on earth would that shut me up, eh, are you suggesting that I champion terrorists or extremists who spread hatred?

"Nobody shuts me up!"

What about the wife?

I may let her at times.

no i did not intend to suggest that but you alway seem to be stickin up for the foreners and putting them before us

"foreners" ????????

walter, we forgive spelling mistakes on here, you know what he means, nitpicking suggests you have nothing sensible to say

In the 1970's the UK suffered a brain drain on a large scale because a large section of the population believed they could see no prospects of an economic recovery and a country in long term decline.. Now the strength of the UK economy, particularly in the South East, is attracting well educated and talented young people from the less economically buoyant parts of the EU where all they see is despair.In the long term,given the creation of the necessary infrastructure, these newcomers will bring more credits than debits.
The downside is the inability to deter the less desirable element of the immigrant surge. Had our leaders made the free movement of people across the EU conditional on a series of minimum qualifications, as per the Australian points system, we could have had the best of both worlds.

In that case apologies for being a pedant

" Now the strength of the UK economy, particularly in the South East, is attracting well educated and talented young people from the less economically buoyant parts of the EU where all they see is despair.In the long term,given the creation of the necessary infrastructure, these newcomers will bring more credits than debits."



Well. I assume they are coming here to work. So it begs the questions... Why do we need these so called well educated and talented young people from Europe? Don't we have enough home grown well educated talented young people to take up those jobs? And if not... WHY NOT?

Ahcawntspeyk.

The short answer is no and not by a long way. There are currently almost 100,000 vacancies for engineering graduates.
For whatever reason our schools have not been turning out enough young people with the necessary numeracy and linguistic qualities.
It's not a new thing. Over 30 years ago I took part in a TV programme which highlighted the handicap faced by UK manufacturers in respect of the educational attainment of our children when compared with Germany.I don't think much has changed.

"There are currently almost 100,000 vacancies for engineering graduates."



Really? I didn't think our engineering base was that great?

We have the seventh largest manufacturing sector in the world.But for the structural weakness in productivity,in part down to our education system, manufacturing would be stronger.
The latest figures from the office of National Statistics show UK output per worker is 16% below the G7 average and 22% below Germany.

All i know is this... It seems like at least 80% of EVERYTHING i purchase ISN'T made here. So if we are as you say the seventh largest manufacturing sector in the world, WHAT are we manufacturing? And who is buying it?

If engineering in this country is dependent an engineering graduates well this country in sunk. Worked with dozens of graduates and every one of them is more than able to talk about or write about an engineering project but get them to actually think or do anything hands on and you may as well get a couple of dozen battery hens to sort it.

you can say what you want but the truth is there are to many immigrants

Brussels will be telling us next that immigrants don't need passports

What Next ???

its out of control , why are we letting Brussels get away with it . only one way to stop it vote ukip .

Sure is

What else do UKIP stand for?

From Turbo's link:

"The Brussels move, confirmed by the Home Office, prompted incredulity among MPs, who called for Britain to regain control of its borders."

Only now are they incredulous? Too little, too late....

Today's Headlines, Britain is still a christian country They should ask the people who have lost their jobs for wearing a crucifix, and owners of hotels and guest houses that have been prosecuted for their Christian beliefs if its still a christian country

i"m already wearing my life jacket, I advise you to do the same....when sharia hits us and it will, freedom of expression will be next on the list.tek ya blinkers off for the sake of our country, those in charge haven't a clue???

is there room in this lifeboat for me billy , cause I think ill be joining you .

It makes me laugh, all this 'Christian belief' stuff.

How would you feel if such 'Christian' owners refused to allow you to share a room because you weren't married to your long term other half? How many of the people here had their kids Christened, but didn't go to church other than it?

Yet more rubbish from The Daily FAIL.......a rag not worthy of toilet paper!

a close friend of mine(a romany)was jailed two years ago for receiving stolen goods, on appeal he was released forthwith(yes money can open doorshe told me what a scare he got the short time he was in the nick..radical muslims practicaly ran the place...they forcibly turned others into radicals...radicals are bred in jails, along with our schools, seems to me there aint gonna be any nice muslims left around....interesting to read your posts on this "SMALL" piece of info jathbee and joseph????and jathbee, NOOOO he aint a gender bender like you sugest the Appleby fair is their "meet fair."

You base your views on a tiny %age of the entire population?

Approximately 12,000 Muslims in prison out of a population of 3m?

harry james?????hows ya great aunt betty grable???
do us all a favour and go blow ya horn in luton.

The amusing thing about folk like you, is that if someone was to even suggest that travellers had scumbags within their ranks, you would defend them to the death.

None so blind as those who cannot see.