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Started by: Mac (inactive)

Any clews?




I think it's a navy doings.

Started: 17th Oct 2013 at 16:05

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I'm avoiding the QI klaxon and racket by saying/typing it ISN'T owt to do with the King's shilling.

And it looks much too small a vessel to have owt to do with rum rationing.

Anyroad, they have a polished butt for that.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 16:09

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

There is an Anchor on the box.

I did at fisrt think the tankard was actual size until I looked at the coins next to it.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 16:13

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

And that wouldn't be a tankard anyway.

Even if there's a handle out of view.

Stick with me and QI and you'll learn knowledge.

An clew:

Alan Davies tells me you're an MUG!

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 16:54

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

You've been very helpful.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:07

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Tankard has a lid. Mr Fry told me that.

Are the measure and the box upside down for some reason?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:10

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I reckon it's a thimble measure for something or other, complete with presentation box.

Coins are just there for scale.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:22

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

What am I, Arthur Bleedin' Negus now?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:31

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

You only get a bucketful.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:32

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Interlude

Bloke on Antiques Roadshow recently explained that these rum doings (can't remember proper name) were used to waer down the rum to make grog in front of the men, so that they knew they weren't being cheated.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:43

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Just realised, the damned fool doesn't know exactly what it is, either.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:44

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

No flies on you!

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:47

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

The big un is an 'rum fanny'.

The little one you found, could, like you, be called something similar.

Rum Fanny

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:49

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 17:52

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

You have me over a barrel.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 18:33

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

QI fact that 'Rum Thingies' dustaf
I love finding the origins of words.
To follow on the drinks theme, I've just joined Hindley History Society. At our last meeting we were told that it was common years ago for churches to have a brewery at the back of the church. They would sell ale to raise money. To stop people trying to get a drink during services a barrier or 'bar' was placed across the brewry entrance. Hence the the term 'bar' in a drinking place. If a young girl was to be married in church but couldn't afford a wedding dress the church would pay for one. These were known as 'Brides Ale' dresses, which became 'Bridal' dresses.
To quote the words of a wise and venerated member of WW
'I know knowledge me'

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:29
Last edited by raymyjamie: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:33:04

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

The coins are Dollars, circa 2000.
The coins fit in the 'tankard'.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:33
Last edited by Mac: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:35:26

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:40

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Mac the diameter of an American Dollar is 26.5mm. That makes the tankard roughly twice that in height, say 53mm or in old money or just over 2 inches.
Do you mean they are meant to fit in the tankard or they just 'do' fit in the tankard?.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:43

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

I suspect they just it in, Ray. The tankards I posted recently are larger, but still classed as 'mini' tankards. They are from a gift shop in Dorset.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:53

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 19:55

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Mac

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:00

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Think it may be a magnifier...though I am not sure at all.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:00

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Them's mugs.

Tankards has lids.

Be told!


Ray, I'll now have to google the Vicar's Rummer.

As seen at Lichfield cathedral.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:42

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

I'm intrigued mester dustaf

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:49

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Tha'r a mug

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:49

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:57

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

And I'm not linking to that Fast Show sketch.

"You mug"

"You muppet"

etc.etc.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 20:58

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:00

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

'Think it may be a magnifier...though I am not sure at all.'

Do you mean a loupe, KNOWNOWT?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:05

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

That's my sort of 'pint pot' .
Same again landlord, dustaf's payin'.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:05

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Sorry, I'm bowt.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:08

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:10

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

What the chuff is the function of an loupe?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:19

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I bet 'Tot' of rum comes into the equation.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:20

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Loupe is a jewellers eyeglass, Ray.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:21

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Dustaf
Alles ist klar

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:22

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:26
Last edited by dustaf: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:27:28

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:33

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Google tells me they (thimble measures) are also known as 'jiggers'.

So, I googled 'rum jigger'

Jiggers are also a feature on old canal wharves, docksides, and railway warehouses.

I was even thinking about them earlier when looking at a Manchester Ship Canal slideshow.

(Hydraulic hoists)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:33

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Ellesmere Port (I think)

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:36

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

From rum jiggers to port jiggers in one swift tandem.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:36

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Is that why we say we're jiggered ie tired (or tired & emotional euphoniumism for p*ssed)?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:37

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)



I like 'tired and emotional'.

Beware of resurrections.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:38

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

I shall hexpect one

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:38

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I won't put 'Gwim's a big fat puff' in the WW searchbox, but you may feel free.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:41

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Temptation got the better of me.

The last I heard, he got himself into a tired and emotional state and had shut himself in a toilet. I'm told that anyone who made enquiries as to his well-being, only got some incoherent tearful replies.

The only words that made any sort of sense sounded something like;

"Gwim's a big fat puff"

But of course, I could be wrong.

9 Oct 2010

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:44

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Brill that mester
It's amazing how stuff goes round and then comes back on this site.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:46

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

From here

That rope and anchor inlay on the box in Mac's first pic is very similar to the one on the 'tankard' box.

No doubt whoever makes the latter for the Portsmouth firm, also makes the former.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:48

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Now then, has gwym been reincarnated to another 'well known' member on WW?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:49

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Yes, Ray no secret.

Gwim (AKA that big lad wot left) is Mac.

I bet it's Indian brass

Cash Converters sell similar, brand new, brass novelties.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:53

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

I had an inkling .
PS he's lovely

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:55

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

If you don't mind big fat ones.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:57

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

I said "he's lovely" in a deep masculine voice so as not to give the wrong impression. I tried homosensuality once but didn't like it

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 21:58

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Dustaf is seething because I knocked him back is all.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:03

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

He's not half as smart as you in your top hat and dress jack-et an' 'im in his hoody top, tracky bottoms with a white stripe and 'back to front' baseball cap.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:09
Last edited by raymyjamie: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:10:09

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

That is my bedroom attire, Ray. Just something I 'threw on'.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:15

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Ray, that pic is the school bully from Tomkinson's Schooldays.

He had Filipino ladies in his rooms.

There's quite a difference.

Anyroad, yon doings is a Pusser's (Purser's) rum measure.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:18

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Are the dollars Australian?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:21

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Here's a poser then, when did the Royal Navy stop giving the daily rum ration?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:24

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

I've answered it mineself.
Straight from Wikepaedophile :-

The rum ration (tot) was a daily amount of rum given to sailors on Royal Navy ships. It was abolished in 1970 after concerns that regular intakes of alcohol would lead to unsteady hands when working machinery.

Or chasin' Wrens

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:28

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Bowt googlin?

Beaker?

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:29

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

Them would be great on't mantlepiece.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:31

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

Beaker, rather than measure, was inspired by this pic:

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:33

Posted by: dustaf (inactive)

I don't just watch it for Fiona Bruce, you know.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:34

Posted by: raymyjamie (6857)

eeh 'drink on a stick' yon lass.
She can check my 'provenence' anytime.

Replied: 17th Oct 2013 at 22:44

Posted by: ©art© (6154)

The anchor, is the Royal Naval Admiralty pattern

The rum/water mix was called "Grog"



Photograph Illustrates a Mixing Tub and 8 Rum Cups or Grog Measuring Cups That Make Up a Complete Set.
From Left to Right: 1/2 Gill, 1 Gill, 1 1/2 Gill, 1/2 Pint, 1 Pint, 1 Quart, 1/2 Gallon and 1 Gallon.

Replied: 18th Oct 2013 at 00:59
Last edited by ©art©: 18th Oct 2013 at 01:05:11

Posted by: Mac (inactive)

Replied: 18th Oct 2013 at 09:21

 

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