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Photo-a-Day  (Sunday, 17th March, 2024)

Owd Barn - Back O'Millgate


Owd Barn  - Back O'Millgate
Tagged onto the back of the Hadera Restaurant in Millgate, this old barn with its 'Arrow Slot' windows featuring Old English style brickwork is a great survivor from the town centre's past. It must date from at least the mid 1700's if not earlier.
What a story it could tell.

Photo: Colin Traynor  (iPhone)
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Comment by: Veronica on 17th March 2024 at 06:21

Never knew of this very old building and not a clue where it is. I don’t know how you get around to find these secret places Colin. There must be others hidden away that missed the ‘chopping block’!

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 17th March 2024 at 07:13

Perhaps it was in situ when the Jacobites marched through Wigan as related in the book by Kathleen Fidler...The White Cockade Passes....
Nice old building with, as you say Colin, a story or two to tell.

Comment by: Pw on 17th March 2024 at 08:50

Could it be a stable?

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 17th March 2024 at 08:59

I've never heard of The Hadera Restaurant and had to Google it to find out where it is. But I love that barn, even though I had no idea it existed until I saw the photo. Let's just hope the powers-that-be leave it well alone.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 09:00

Veronica, I probably walked by it many times over the years and never particularly noticed it.
I was sat on a bench where the Empire Cinema had been up Coopers Row outside John Bull Chop House taking in what was left of all the old building, the sun came out and there it was in all its glory.
I think it’s quite attractive in its simple but practical design.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 09:21

Helen, I knew of this book but could not remember the full title nor the author. Just found it on Amazon, only one left in stock so I have ordered it. Thanks for the tip.

Comment by: Arthur on 17th March 2024 at 09:23

Looks like an old cow shed.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 09:24

Malc, if you are looking today, sorry there are no flowers or wildlife, not even a pigeon but there is a bit of tree and grass!

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 17th March 2024 at 09:58

Colin, only a few years ago you needed a King's Ransom to buy "The White Cockade Passes"! Lucky you! I have quite a number of Kathleen Fidler's "The Brydons" series, though.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 10:01

Irene, I will email a picture.
Exactly where The Ribble Cabinet Company was, the frontage remodelled but made very attractive.

Comment by: DTease on 17th March 2024 at 10:14

There is a Hedera Restaurant near Wigan Cemetery, Warrington Lane, Lower Ince.

Comment by: Veronica on 17th March 2024 at 10:24

Next time I go to Wigan I’ll nip up that row Colin. Not far from the great glass house then with that ‘gawping’ miserable face.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 10:46

Spot on Veronica, before I got up from the bench someone tapped me on the shoulder and said ‘Its Behind You’.

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 17th March 2024 at 11:02

Irene I looked up the Kathleen Fidler book...one in good condition was £120 ! My Mother's copy is only worth abt £40 but its not for sale .

Comment by: Malc on 17th March 2024 at 12:13

Well, your getting there....
Many thanks for the, Colin.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 12:23

Helen, mine on Amazon is £25.00 + £2.80 postage. This was the last one available in stock.
Once I have read it I'm open to offers. Might ask Ron or Brian to post a picture of the cover on WW and start the bidding!!!!!!

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 17th March 2024 at 12:49

Thankyou Helen. xxx

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 12:53

Helen, apparently it is being dispatched by World Of Rare Books.

Comment by: RON HUNT on 17th March 2024 at 13:45

COLIN YOU ARE LUCKY TO FIND THAT BOOK FOR THAT PRICE. AS PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT'S A VERY RARE BOOK...

Comment by: Eddie Rowland on 17th March 2024 at 14:23

To all you wigan worlders the cafe that was next to the Jokers restaurant was called the Empress cafe,it served a nice hotel horlicks in winter time.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 14:46

Thanks Eddie, I think that was the original name before the clever clogs kept changing it.

Comment by: Colin traynory on 17th March 2024 at 14:48

Ron, I have just sent you a picture of the front cover.

Comment by: Pw on 17th March 2024 at 14:48

Could it be a stable?

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 15:16

Pw. It could have been many things over the last 300 years, barn, cow shed, stables and storage shed for numerous homes and businesses. Who knows Bonny Prince Charlie could have stabled is horses in there. And the old stone foundations might even cover up Roman Remains but doubt that Three Wise Men ever visited, not from Wigan Council that is otherwise it would have been demolished.
Anything though is possible.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 17th March 2024 at 15:35

Yet again I find it fascinating how a simple picture can generate so many interesting stories, memories and conversations.
Thank you for engaging today. Colin.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 17th March 2024 at 16:22

DTease, whereabouts is the Hedera Restaurant in Lower Ince please? I know the cemetery area well and I only know The Old Hall Hotel next to the cemetery itself and The Black Diamond round the corner from there going towards Wigan, and I don't think they are still open. I am just puzzled.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 17th March 2024 at 16:44

Colin, I doubt there ARE three wise men on Wigan Council!

Comment by: DTease on 17th March 2024 at 17:56

Irene, it’s strange but the map on TripAdvisor for Colin’s restaurant shows it as located on Warrington Road just a little before the Cemetery but it shows the restaurant where Colin says it is!
Maybe they changed addresses and not the map?

Comment by: WN1 Standisher on 18th March 2024 at 09:37

Another good shot Colin, you don't half find them. I think it was called Casino de Cuba before it became Hedera. I was at a wedding reception there a couple of years ago and never knew this was out the back. I'll take a look next time i'm in Wigan on the bike.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 18th March 2024 at 11:06

Born in 1899 in Coalville, Leicestershire, Kathleen Annie Fidler was educated at Wigan Girls' High School, and at St. Mary's College in Bangor, North Wales. She was the headmistress of the Scot Lane Evening Institute from 1924-30, and taught at St. Paul's Girls' School, Wigan, from 1925-30. Fidler married J.H. Goldie in 1930, and had one daughter and one son. She spent most of her married life in the Edinburgh area, and died in 1980.
A prolific author, who penned both children's books and scripts for the BBC, Fidler is perhaps best remembered as the creator of two series, one about the Brydon family, the other about the Deans.

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