Photo-a-Day  (Tuesday, 10th January, 2023)

Sets!

Where do you put electric charging points on this type of street?

and on the right hand side were the stone steps that led to the original St. Patricks junior school of which I have many fond memories

Probably some will say tarmac the street, make it modern & up to date but I like to see a cobbled street, gives it character & goes with the red bricked terraced houses. Wonder how the home owners would feel about it given a makeover ?
I expect Mick will say its dangerous !

B….SETTS.
Don’t know why people insist on calling these cobbles, they don’t resemble cobbles at all.
Another good picture of a typical Wigan street.

Where do you put electric charging points on this type of street?

Easy, just make a channel under the footpath from the house to the kerbside, then install a charging post.

Good photo, Dennis. I love the old cobbled streets. I didn't know Scholes well when all the old shops and houses were there but I love to see photos and hear stories about it, especially Tom Walsh's reminiscences about the children's home-made May Queen Parades and the old shops. It seems to have been a very close-knit community and the friends of mine who lived there in those days have such warm memories.

It always amazes me that the cobbles are still there! .
The starting point of many a Whit Monday walk with the ‘wobbly’ waving banners held by the men of the parish and the long streamers held by the senior girls. Little ones trailing behind holding hands together in their puffed out dresses. All following the VIP’s and best of all the skirrrl of the Pipers in their swirling kilts. The air scented from all the posy’s and flowers. That’s a picture fixed in my mind forever.
Thank you Dennis for the lovely memory that just ‘popped’ in my head.

Sets /setts they might be but you won't stop people calling the cobbled streets !

I like riding my bike over them cobbles

I expect Mick will say its dangerous !

Helen I wasn't going to say its dangerous but now you have mentioned it I think it is, just look at those neglected uneven old kerb stones and the uneven road surface.

Helen when they film Coronation st, they do it on a set but the set is cobbled.

Back in the day, the Registrar of Births Marriages and Deaths, Cornelius Latchford, was in offices off Darlington Street, left hand side, coming from Wigan.
Further down, on the right, one of the streets similar to this one, there was a bloke who advertised in the Wigan Observer - £4 paid for a full sovereign, £2 for a half sovereign (this was in 1964) and he also dealt in male 2nd hand clothes.
I cannot remember the street name, but I sold a half sovereign to him in order to buy something trendy at the time. Hindsight is never a good master,, but his was the better part of the bargain.

I grew up with people calling setts cobbles, until one day my father, a bricklayer, who was paving a small area of the backyard said. “I will try to get a few setts”, from then on that is how I came to know what was what.

Cobbles are handy if yoo have a horse instead of a car, a horse's shoo's, grip the cobbles, so that the horse doesn't slip and fall flat on it's bottom.

Darlington St. was the ‘posh’ area of Scholes. The houses facing were and are quite grand. They were always well maintained. A few teachers lived in them. Miss Egan for one..she was the Headmistress at the Boy’s school.

Cooster, the brain of Wigan Pigeons gives other names of this road surface -cobbles or setts, depending on where you come from or whether you are on about stones or a Badgers home.

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I know the correct name for them is setts, but I've always heard them called cobbles so know them as such. What would folks rather hear, a cobbled street or a street paved with setts?

Cyril, I believe "setts" are the flat-topped stones that are shown in the photo, whilst "cobbles" are actually rounded and VERY difficult to walk on! But streets with "setts" have always been called "cobbled streets" in the Wigan area, whether correct or not....it's just what Wiganers call them. It's nice to think the setts are still there all around Wigan, under the tarmac, and even better to see a street where they haven't been covered over.

Gary , the shop you mention was Theodor Hannon , he moved to Darlington Street when his shop which was situated at the bottom of Scholes was demolished.

True Irene, cobbled street is what we always called them and I suppose always shall, and we had fun on hot days seeing who could make the biggest tar ball, I doubt the children of today making tar balls, or of ever hearing of them. Those used and discarded wooden lolly sticks came in handy for scooping the molten tar from the gaps, then when you got home your mother giving you a lump of butter to rub in your hands to remove the tar.

The argument continues, I refer to "Album photo" Item #33974 Sept 3rd 2022 regarding cobbles or setts. I laid out the the difference in my comment. B's comment (that is not me by the way) is correct. It is not just Wiganer's but the media in general who don't know their setts from their cobbles or visa versa. Where I reside on the Wirral, some of our side roads were blacktopped over by the local authority years and years ago and at times, as the road surface breaks up, the setts can be seen.

The word cobble means an oval top. As in a loaf called a 'cob'. Setts are flat topped, normally, but setts with oval tops are cobbles, or cobbled setts, because they have a cobbled top. They are the ones you see mostly in towns and villages in England. Not everybody gives a thought to what they look like underneath, but are deep and square underneath.

Yes, I remember the "tar lollies" made with tar and discarded ice-lolly sticks, Cyril, and then putting them in the shade to harden! I also recall Walking-Days in very hot weather when the melting tar ruined new white sandals and socks

My mother's aunt Elizabeth lived in those houses, near Miss Egan.She was a teacher at St Mary's. Veronica.

I am sure that the stones were laid as Cobbled Stones, to help horses grip the road, and in my opinion they are not flat stones or setts, but Cobbled Stones which have worn down a bit, but none of them are flat, so for me that is a Cobbled Street.

Why was it called Rupert Street, was it named after Rupert the Bear ?

Prince Rupert of the Rhine , Duke of Cumberland was an English Army Officer and Royal Commander in the English Civil War. That could be the connection. Wigan was a loyalist town. I fancy the naming of Cambridge St could have a royal connection as well.

The late Queen’s grandmother was Princess Mary of Teck before marriage to George V. . I suppose Teck St had a royal connection. There must be a lot of streets in Wigan with royal connections ie King St , Duke St. etc.