Photo-a-Day  (Tuesday, 28th July, 2020)

Mesnes Street? Surely this is 8n Bridgeman Terrace.

Cant see any one person wearing a mask!

Have to wear a face covering to nip in a shop for a few seconds but can sit for hours next to strangers without one ?

I used to pass this cafe on the bus on my way to pick up my grandchildren after school before the lockdown and could never make out if it was open or closed. Perhaps it just opens certain hours? Reminds me of people sitting outside in cafes abroad, (not that I'm familiar with "abroad"....just what I've seen on photos). I hadn't realised it sold alcohol.

I don't think this is Mesnes St. I've not seen this cafe, we didn't need a mask yesterday in the downstairs cafe in Debenhams. But sat we were sat further apart than those people.

Irene are you saying your that your that old fashioned that you have never traveled abroad, and only know that it exist from seeing it on photos

I went to Greece in 1999. Bought a ten year passport and used it once. Never again. I am happy in my own country. If that is old-fashioned then yes, I must be, and happy to be so. I have never had any desire to go abroad and only went to Greece to please my husband and daughter. It's a nice feeling to be content with what you've got and I envy no-one.

Well said Irene. I personally like travel but wouldn't dream of considering it at the moment. Nothing old fashioned about enjoying everything the UK has to offer, it's going to become the norm for a while to come.

You've been to France as well Irene, and Arran. I reckon you're a bit of a closet globe trotter on the quiet.
Doc sold this place recently, it's under new management now.

Well said Irene, there are lots of people who dont go abroad, and what about the risk at the present time ?. One reason that many people do go abroad is the chance of better weather.

Mesnes View, Mesnes Street?

I agree with you Irene I have never had a passport in all my life and I am in my late 50s it has never appealed to me to go abroad never wanted to go abroad , would not even go if I ever won an holiday give it away first.

Long time since Mabs Cross Motors (Vauxhall dealers) were on this site.

Of course the problem with wearing a mask in a cafe/restaurant is that you cannot eat or drink without having to keep handling the mask which is not to be recommended

It's Bridgeman Terrace, Veronica. xx

No complaints today Mick? No arguments? No disruption?

I put Mesnes Street in the description. I googled Docs Symposium and the address was listed as:
85 Mesnes St, Wigan WN1 1QJ

Never had a passport in my life never will. Cornwall and Devon for holiday is great. People go abroad for one thing only, the sun. If you could guarantee sunny weather in this great country of ours no one would go abroad.

It is Mesnes Street with Bridgeman Terrace beginning after Wrightington Street. So Chris has retired again as he Ozy.

Did you call in for a sherry chaser Mick.

Ozy, you're right.! I had forgotten about that! I was 21 when I went to France and Belgium but it wasn't for a holiday. I went to see the war graves and battle sites on The Somme. It wasn't exactly what I meant when I said I had never been abroad and I certainly don't think of it as a holiday....we were in a tent and it was freezing! It was for a few days and you bought a passport from the Post Office that lasted for one year. I was 47 when I went to Greece on a real holiday and I am 67 now and I have no desire to go abroad ever again.

I was mystified myself as to where this pic was taken until DerekB mentioned Mabs Cross Motors. Then I knew exactly the location. (opposite the old cricket field). Also this pic could have been taken pre covid days.

So you’re not planning on opening a travel agents then Irene?

Only if you want to go to Scarborough, Xpat! Special offer....free umbrella and wind-break just for you! And send us a postcard. Lol! xxxxx

Your right Irene,people think your strange, if you've never been abroad.Like Garry says, down south is great when you have the weather.

It's looking that way Cyril, although I wouldn't care to put money on it.
Now come on Irene........ ( didn't Dexxy's Midnight Runners do that one ? )
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you know as well as I do that anyone who hasn't frozen half to death in a leaky tent on a squelchy field near Beaumont Hamel,... ...then had to bump start the car every morning for a week on a Grundytours mini-break has never actually HAD a proper holiday.
Grundytours set the standard to which other better known holiday tour companies aspire.
If you don't believe me, just ask Peter.

Ozy, Peter says it's engraved on his heart forever, like the Maurice Chevalier song, "Ah Yes, I remember it well"!! He says to ask you if it was The Big Green Humber??

Well Im proper shocked that theirs so many Wiganers who have never seen other parts of our beautiful world.
I must have about a dozen well used old passports in a cupboard

Each to his/her own, Mick. I'm glad to know you've enjoyed seeing the world but it isn't for everyone, and the world you have seen via your cupboard-full of passports would be a boring one if we all saw it through the same eyes. There are those who travel and there are those who are content to stay at home. I hope you have many more enjoyable holidays abroad but will be glad to see you return home to Wigan and to us all on Wigan World. xx

I do remember a green Humber Irene, but over the years there were a variety of deathtraps. The most prominent in my memory being a Hillman Minx with a hole halfway down the petrol tank. A Morris J4 with a half blocked radiator, a defective regulator and no silencer. ( well, not south of Lyon anyway ). A Humber saloon painted in primer with a Perkins P6 Diesel engine, and a black Humber Pullman with the same Perkins Diesel engine as the previous one, but this one came equipped with the added optional extra of a split fan belt that flapped about all the way to St. Tropez and back....There's a photo of that one on the album somewhere.
Not to mention ex- German Mercedes taxis that wouldn't bloody start.
The only thing that these vehicles had in common is the fact that they were all borderline unroadworthy .
By the way, I have access to photos of Peter and yourself ( abroad ). I'll be seeking your permission soon to upload them on here.

I did my national service in Malaya . After that I went on several holidays abroad. However there is no place like home !!!

I can fully understand some people have no desire to travel but to say people only go for the weather is nonsensical. Do they actually think there are no historical sites abroad. Magnificent architecture, beautiful churches and cathedrals, stunning rivers and forests etc. etc.

Mick so what, and what is your point that people choose not to travel abroad.

Ozy, we have a 1959 Hillman Minx at the moment. She is called Dorothy and she smells of 1959, (not musty, just of "age") and our grandchildren Edie and Oliver love the fact that she has no seat-belts! You are quite at liberty to post any photos of Peter and myself in those bygone days....we Wigan Worlders will all have a laugh! It's a wonder we're here to tell the tale after those death -traps of cars! Peter has just gone up to bed but will show him your comments tomorrow. Good night everyone. xxx

There'll always be the 'stay at homes' and the ones with itchy feet. The world would never have been discovered if it hadn't been for the globe trotters. I have trotted to most of Europe,The Middle East, America, and was hoping to go to the Great Oz in a few weeks, but I don't think that is meant to be. There's nothing I like better than packing my suitcase to go 'abroad' BUT I get the same feeling coming home, and no it's not the sunny weather I go for, it's the thirst for a different culture that attracts and the buzz of travelling to get there.

Yes Im with you Veronica it's is the thirst for a different culture and meeting the people and not the sunshine.
But the buzz of traveling to get there as all gone now for me except that is if you travel business class, and some of that as gone down hill especially on these cruise ships with the type of people they have started to cater for.

Veronica,
We are scheduled , and still hope to do so, to visit New Zealand in February / March 2021. If there is still all this Covid business we will probably have to review our plans.

Well I haven't been on a full blown cruise Mick, only on a couple of mini ones. I am more of a landlubber really. Broady good luck with the New Zealand trip, I am hoping to get my flight money refunded and go to Perth next year,but somehow I don't think the situation is going to improve much even then.

I have only just seen this argument on the pros an cons of foreign travel. I agree with Veronica. I saw much of this country during my childhood/teenage years which is much appreciated. The experience of abroad is NOT for weather reason but the in the flesh experience of other cultures. I will continue with this country when I feel age is a restriction on foreign travel.

Broady you find New Zealand is just as boring as Canada, so you will like it.

You're not wrong there Mick. Some of these council house wallahs that I've been obliged to sit with at the captain's table on the QE2 over the years have turned out to be a right pain.

Yes Ozy these cruise ships are now full of folk who used to go on holiday to Butlins and dont mind eating all that fatty buffet food

People don't go abroad just for the sun or most people anyway they go for the culture the architecture, even though i love e my own country i will never forget the beauty of Seville or Salamanca in Spain the sight of the Pyramids or the sight and power of Niagara Falls the leaning tower of Pisa and the the awesome glory of the Sistine Chapel the marvellous painting of the ceiling by Michelangelo.There is so much in this world to see i only hope i have the money and the time left to see it.

I have never had an interest in other cultures or architecture but I have every respect for the views of other people. Each to his/her own. It wouldn't do for us all to see things the same. I hope we all on Wigan World get to see the things that will make us happy, be it foreign lands or the local park. If you derive pleasure from a place, it really doesn't matter where it is.

You'd have been no good on the Starship Enterprise Irene. Captain Kirk would be wanting to boldly go and you'd be saying , actually I'm quite happy in Ince.

Many years ago I worked in Shevington with some great people, but if Mick is quote “The type of person they have started to cater for” then the place has definitely gone down market since then.

I think Captain Kirk has always had a secret yearning to go to Ince, Xpat! I think he likes a pie on the quiet! xxxxx