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Photo-a-Day  (Saturday, 1st February, 2025)

Ol' Man River, Dat Ol' Man River


Ol' Man River, Dat Ol' Man River
Downstream from the Bottling Wood Dam (technically known as a Gated Attenuation Structure) the River Douglas winds its way towards the town centre.
Despite the modern obstacle 'Dat Ol' Man River, he jes keeps rollin' he keeps on rollin' along.
Anyone for a swim up the Duggie?

Photo: Colin Traynor  (iPhone)
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Comment by: John Noakes on 1st February 2025 at 00:24

It's technically known as a geocellular attenuation system or structure. I suspect it's gated for safety's sake.

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 1st February 2025 at 07:37

A pleasant, peaceful scene Colin.

Comment by: WN6 on 1st February 2025 at 08:17

Depending on which day of the week you went into the Duggie years ago you would come out a different colour.

Comment by: Veronica on 1st February 2025 at 08:46

At least there’s no chance of building any houses on ground here….

Comment by: Malc on 1st February 2025 at 09:38

The gate is actually a filter to stop rubbish travelling through to the other side.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 1st February 2025 at 10:31

You are probably correct Malc which makes me think of the bridge over the Douglas at the bottom of Scholes, it was much lower in the 1960's and has since been raised. After heavy rain, trees and debris trapped under the bridge blocked the flow and it overflowed flooding much of lower Millgate and Scholes and Derby Terrace..
I wonder what would happen if the same thing happened to this gate, would it back up and flow over the top of the Dam???? That would be worth a picture!

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 1st February 2025 at 10:43

The lost Hamlet of Bottling Wood behind the Dam.
In March 2010, Oxford Archaeology North (OA North) was commissioned by Axis, acting on behalf of The Environment Agency, to carry out a programme of archaeological investigation in Bottling Wood on the banks of the River Douglas which was a former industrial hamlet dating from the 1800's perhaps even a little earlier.
The hamlet formed part of a designated Unhealthy Area that was outlined for clearance in the late 1920s by the Insanitary Houses and Conversions Committee of Wigan Borough Council, and was ultimately demolished in 1927-8.

Comment by: WN6 on 1st February 2025 at 10:49

John Noakes, it's there to stop Colin and his invited guests from swimming up stream.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 1st February 2025 at 11:24

"Ol' Man River" is a song from the 1927] musical Show Boat with music by Jerome Kern and lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II, who wrote the song in 1925. this in turn was based on a 1926 novel by Edna Ferber.
The song contrasts the struggles and hardships of African Americans with the endless, uncaring flow of the Mississippi River. It is sung from the point of view of a black stevedore on a showboat.
Many will remember the 1951 film Show Boat with Howard Keel and Ava Gardner and of course the magnificent voice of William Warfield, not to be confused with Paul Robeson,

Comment by: Veronica on 1st February 2025 at 11:31

I seem to remember a lot of artefacts from the Battle of Wigan Lane were found under the soil around this area. Perhaps Cyril will know about that as I think it was his post I recall reading. I may be wrong…

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 1st February 2025 at 11:52

I just read through some of the comments on yesterdays PAD and those made by .Ozy venting his spleen had me howling laughing with tears down my cheeks, my wife thought I was having a fit! Don't think I have laughed as much in years,
Hope he posts something as funny today but think he might still be in Curry's with his Chinese iPad.

Comment by: Maureen on 1st February 2025 at 12:52

After all the dreary dull days we’ve been having lately,this photo is a sight for sore eyes.

Comment by: T. D. on 1st February 2025 at 12:54

Prince Andrew (honorary member of Wigin golf club) has a Chinese friend who may be able to help with dodgy ipads.

Comment by: Veronica on 1st February 2025 at 13:32

Or the roof may have blown off the air raid shelter! Perhaps Big H could find him some scraps of iron coming back from the Big House in the plants.

Comment by: Cyril on 1st February 2025 at 17:19

Veronica, there is a photo on the Album by Ron that shows the buildings at the bottom of Coppull Lane: https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=30046&gallery=Coppull+Lane&page=1

I do remember the other page of information, but I can't recall from where I got it - I'm sure there was a map showing an archeological dig on the Bloody Mountains and before Fellside and other houses were built, and if I remember rightly they did find a lot of artefacts.
It could on the Wigan Archeological Society webpages, or maybe it was Manchester University and Wigan Tech, as they did do quite a few digs around Wigan at the time.

I'll pass on the swim Colin, as it won't be swimming with Dolphins it'll be swimming alongside unmentionables, courtesy of United Utilities sluice gates.

Comment by: Veronica on 1st February 2025 at 18:33

I remember the photo Cyril. I always thought Bloody Mountains referred to the the battle on Wigan Lane but it looks like it was a lot earlier according to one poster on the photo. We always played on the Camel’s Hump.

Comment by: Owd Reekie on 1st February 2025 at 19:32

This looks like a pastoral scene from a story book. I grew up in this area in the 1960’s and the River Duggie was severely polluted and its river banks inaccessible. A huge improvement.

Comment by: Cyril on 1st February 2025 at 21:19

Veronica, I've been having a browse through photos on the Album and there was a post I put about the fields down Thornhill off Wigan Lane, it was around there that a civil war encampment was believed to have been, as apparently a lot of musket balls and other objects had been found there, a lot of houses have been built there now. I may well have mistaken this for the post about the Bloody Mountains, there was a dig there by Wigan Archeological Society, but nothing earlier than Victorian was found: https://www.wiganarchsoc.co.uk/content/Projects/Greatacre.htm

See the interesting comments about Brock Mill which is close to Thornhill, by John Barbour in this photo: https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?id=27277

here are the digs by Manchester University: http://www.gmau.manchester.ac.uk/projects/wigan_archive.htm

Comment by: Veronica on 1st February 2025 at 23:09

Thanks Cyril I read all three. It was very interesting but disappointing when they didn’t find anything only old boots and a Victorian jar. I wonder what happened to the Canon ball the buckle and the silver sixpence of Elizabeth 1st period. I also remember reading about the Roman graves found on the Gas Work’s site. It looks like Wigan was a very important place in those times.

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