Photo-a-Day  (Tuesday, 28th November, 2017)

Hasn't the Ratcliffe Road Chippy gone as well.
I once bought pie chips and gravy from there and the girl behind the counter served my pie upside down.

Thanks Harry, great pic and a reminder of the early 1960s when I would stand in the corridor with a glass of beer ready to disappear into the rear yard should the local plod pay a visit, well, I was only sixteen at the time.

I used to really like that pub. Still, they seem to have done a good job with the conversion, Aspull is my favourite area around Wigan and district area.

Very smart houses- much better than buildings being left to rot.

I cant believe that the new inn pub has gone after all of those years its a shame does anyone know why it had closed it doors?

Great pic. This was my dad's local and very local it was. If you look to the left you get a glimpse of a bungalow in Stancliffe Grove behind the pub, where my parents lived.

I hope the chippy in Ratcliffe Road is still there; I haven't been up there for a while but it was a good chippy. Sad to think of pubs closing after many years but I would rather see them made into something else than stand derelict. Why build new when there are existing buildings to be utilised? There is not a sadder sight than a disused pub, church or public hall going to ruin. Crawford Mews looks lovely in the sunshine.

Mick
Isn't that method of presentation known as the "St.Helens way"?

Seems a few of us had our first pint there - I was just sixteen. An attractive dark haired lady served us. My locals were the Hare & Hounds aka "Turners" and the Gerard Arms. Landladies knew me there hence the trip up Ratcliffe Road. Second pint was in the Running Horses.

More pubs closing, shutting off more of the community even more, which is what the powers that be want. Yet strangely all the big town centre pubs like Whetherspoons arent showing any signs of closing as they are doing extremely well, but who wants to sit with their pint having the propaganda brainwashing news channels on all the time or sports (even when going to the gym they seem to have BBC News on). And tbe big chain pubs aren't necessarily cheaper either.

You might not have plod checking up on licendsing hours and underage drinkers now, but you do have CCTV cameras all over the place, and one pub I visited the other day they even had a camera in the toilet, which is disgraceful.

There have been hundreds of pubs closed,the old type locals have long gone,the breweries don't want the bother of delivering to pubs,their preferred buyers are supermarkets,the free houses are the main ones left,on a good point the Hockery Brook in Hindley has been done up and is now "Formbys",and it's not tied to any brewery,a good pic of the conversion by the way Harry.

I agree with all the comments re-doing them up for want of a better phrase..and don't they look lovely all painted cream,theres an awful lot of buildings in Wigan that could have had the same treatment instead of just plowing in with a bulldozer..such a shame..these houses are an example of what can make that change.

Poet - the Howfen way would to break the pie open and leave it that way!
Must say, I thought your St Helen's reference was funny.

Julie, it's very simple dear, not enough people supping in there, like so many closed pubs. After saying that, they have made good use of it.x

Thanks all. Just seen your comment yesterday Maureen good for you, Irene the chippy has gone.

Just imagine if the old town hall had been re-furbished instead of it being left to rot. What beautiful apartments could have been made there with the original facade intact. It just goes to show what can be done with careful planning.
As for pubs closing - cheap booze from the off licences and the non smoking rule had an effect as well as so called 'fun pubs'! A lot of people went out to enjoy a quiet drink with friend and neighbours -not now it would seem. Perhaps that's a generation thing- but we all grow older - even the 'bright young things'!

The nasty comments put on the PAD the other day by that Mick.

You would think with all the praise Maureen gets about how she could do a good painting of these Photo a Day that one day she might actually do one and show it on this forum.

Sorry Irene the chippy has gone!!!!

Maybe pubs flourished in the days when they were warmer and more comfortable than the average working mans home. As living conditions improved so the decline of the old fashioned local began.

Maureen has sent one of her paintings in....it isn't her fault if it hasn't been shown...she has no control over that. What on earth is your problem, Mick? You have decided in advance that you're not going to like it, anyway, so why ask to see it?

Same old argument. Too expensive to restore, cheaper to renew! Flatten it with one single word Profit!
Flatten the old and replace it with a building built to last 10 years, when the restored old that had already stood 100, would
not only be richer, warmer and kinder, but would nourish our need to protect .

Anyone know if the Crown at Worthington has been bought and may re-open according to rumours.

Irene,just take notice..it's every time someone says something nice to me..I have him weighed up..and he don't fool me by pretending there's another Mick...but I'll sort him out shortly.