Photo-a-Day  (Thursday, 15th August, 2013)

I really don't like car shows....but Haigh Hall has really saved this picture .....It is a nice picture David....don't get me wrong.....but I would think the cars would come in second to the great house behind them.....Cheers!!

I Love this shot It shows people having a good time. This was defo shot in Haugh Hall Aspull, You OK with that Dirty Harry

such a great Wigan landmark.

HAUGH HALL, ASPULL, JOHN H? AND WHERE DO YOU COME FROM?

German cars...the best engineered in the world.

It has a nice background David as most Wiganers would say, but the foreground doesn't do much for me, sorry.

You could be right Garry, they build the BEST two brands of car in the world at BMW both of them BRITISH, the Rolls Royce and the Bentley.

Some time ago, we went on a very interesting trip to the Volkswagen museum at Wolfsburg.The history, not just of the Beetle was shown, several vintage cars were there, there is also a very tall tower with a spiral run from top to bottom, some people had bought new cars & collected them from there, they could follow their car down the spiral. looking at another tall building, there was a crash & a sports car came bursting out of the top floor, coming to rest on a platform.

Sadly I missed this show, but heard from a friend that it was really good, this photo doesn't do it justice. Lovely shot of Haigh Hall and of a good afternoon being had by all there. I love Haigh Hall and go quite often with my grand children

Bayerische Motoren Werke known as BMW. Headquarters in Munich Germany. It produces the mini and the parent company is Rolls-Royce.
Bentley was British, but now owned by German Volkswagen group since 1998.

Vorsprung Durch Kaputen.

In a recent survey it found that German built cars were the most likely to spend time in garages due to breakdowns, whereas Fiat had the least breakdowns.

Cyril talks rubbish...Fiat..cheap rot boxes.

BMW owns the Rolls-Royce car Brand not the company Rolls Royce Plc (Jet Engines) or Rolls Royce Marine Power Plc.

My comments at 10:57. It should have read, BMW is the parent company of Rolls Royce motor cars.

Neil, who mentioned jet planes or marine engines. This is about cars.

Garry, the comment at 10:57 mentions the company Rolls-Royce and ownership issues, and my comment is about the company Rolls Royce and ownership issues. Many people are not aware that Rolls-Royce cars and Rolls Royce Jet-Engines are not the same or in the same group (but they used to be many years ago). One Rolls Royce is a major contributor to the British economy and the other less so. Whilst the photo is about cars, at least one comment is about Rolls Royce and when I look at Photo-a-Day web page I look at the photo and the comments and I may respond to either.

German cars best engineered, Garry?
Methinks not. Just do a Google about Audi for one...
Its just hype. Clever marketing for cars that are basically run of the mill. Sadly too many fall for the hype.

I bet Garry works for a German car dealers! Ask my dad about how good Volkswagen are (aren't)

Three new head gaskets on a car 12 months old. Electronic ignition falure at 5000 miles. (Four times)Something that was a common fault on the model.

Stuck in Devon in the pouring rain. The AA man actually said...'crap cars Volkswagen, always being called out to them!

Dad ended up buying a Rover thats covered 154,000 miles without a hitch. Fact!

A car is only as good as it's owner. I'v had VWs for years, never had head gasket problems or electrical troubles. People would like to own them but they can't affort them. Look after cars and they will look after you. Oh and one other thing, a good many owners never have the cars serviced and expect them to keep going. Rover cars...enough said.

I'm only writing what was stated in the report Garry, though Fiat came out top I wouldn't purchase one, neither would I purchase a BMW, Merc or even a VW, a reliable, spacious and very comfortable Lexus for me, the Japanese really do know about vehicle technology.

Nothing wrong with Rover cars, Garry. Just as good as any other (If not better) You've obviously fallen for the foreign car hype.
Its clever marketing and brainwashing by the Germans.

Nothing wrong with Rover cars Henry...where are they now...you used to see Rover cars for sale on the forcorts at garages. They were always cheap against any other car the same year, ie they would loose the value much quicker than other cars in it's class...for me that tells you something....there rubbish.

Remember the Rover Metro..try and compere that against the Ford fiesta, no contest.

Metro was innovative, split rear seats, hydro suspension, very compact and roomy. I reckon the Metro wiped the floor with the Fiesta. It and the mini set the pace for front wheel drive cars.
Fiesta was bland and had no character. I bet you never even owned a Rover in order to find out just how good the were(are!)
You're brainwashed, Garry!

I could'nt lower myself to own a BL car let alone a metro. The metro was a rotbox, the engine dates back to the 50s, the gearbox was oil feed from the engine, the sub frame used to fall off. Yes they set the pace alright... for welding repairs in just three years of being new. Ask yourself Henry...where are they now....the Fiesta's still going strong in a competitive market.

Garry...you're living in the past! The later Rover cars are superb. I've had 5 Rover 800s that each covered 120,000 miles without one snag.
Believe me you don't know what you've been missing. Drive a Rover 75 with the BRITISH KV6 engine and you will wish you could still buy one.
I was in Yorkshire today and saw several Metro's still blasting around. Never saw one old Fiesta. Besides most of the Fiestas were made in England. So where does German come into it?
Brainwashing comes in many guises and the Germans ae experts at it.

If Rover's such a good car, why have they finished production...because no body wanted to buy them, only you Henry. ie if you don't drink in pubs, they close and get boarded up.

Why have they finished production, Garry? Because of unpatriotic British buyers.That should read non-buyers! Plus a shortsighted government who refuse to suppoert UK industry. Tony Blair has a lot to answer for.

My personal choice:

I wouldn't have a Rover today if it cost the holes out of washers..:o(

Now the Rovers of the 40's/early 50's, were quality cars ;o)

British car makers ie Rover, MG, Austin, Morris, Wolseley, Triumph, Riley, Standard, Daimler, Vanden Plas to name a few, were good British cars in their day. When British Leyland (BL) took them over, the quality started to diminish...they took on big car makers and couldn't handle it. Then, when BL broke the companys up into one, they turned out this type of rubbish, Metro, Montego, Acclaim, Maestro, Prinsess, Ambassador to name a few. These cars where full of mechanical and body paint defects. BL, started to fit Honda engines and VW gearboxes in some of their vehicles, some where designed in Italy like the Morris Ital. But it came apparent that sales were going down fast and nothing could be done to save the company...the rest is history. The truck and bus industry also suffered under BL, they even merged with Daf trucks to help the company. Today, it's not about quality i'm afraid it's how much money can we make.

Anti-British rhetoric from you guys!
You ought to be ashamed.

I came across this Googling.
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Audi, BMW and VW ranked in the bottom 10 of a study into engine reliability
German-made cars are not as reliable as many believe, according to new research. Warranty Direct has studied its claims data to compile a list of the manufacturers with the most reliable engines - and Audi, BMW and Volkswagen all finished in the bottom 10 out of a total 36 manufacturers.
British Jaguar were in the top ten.

Sandra, by using someone else's ideas means that you have none of your own.
I for one am not anti British, as I said MY preference, & comparing the modern Rover quality to when Rover WAS quality. Disqualifies you from comment acquired from Google, & not "experiencing" the difference.

Spent more in two years on my VW Passat in repairs than I did on my ten year old Omega in 7 years including buying it.
Vorsprung Durc Not very good