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Sutch family

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John, Martha and Hester
John, Martha and Hester
Photo: Dennis Seddon
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Item #: 34823
John Sutch, his wife Martha (Kinnery) and daughter Hester from Platt Bridge.
Went to Somerset, Colorado about 1906.

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 19th January 2024 at 07:41

Doesn't that look good transformed with colour. Wonder what they went to Colorado for, work, was he a miner ?

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 19th January 2024 at 07:46

Lovely portrait Dennis, I wonder how many children they had, if they have any descendants and if so, have they ever seen this picture.

Comment by: Elizabeth on 19th January 2024 at 09:51

There was a Peter Sutch from Platt Bridge in my form at HAGS,maybe a descendant?

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:16

Marriage: 22 Aug 1903 St Peter, Hindley, Lancashire
John Sutch - 25, Collier, Bachelor, 28? Betley St. Platt Bridge
Martha Kinnery - 25, Spinster, 28? Betley St. Platt Bridge
Groom's Father: Peter Sutch, Collier
Bride's Father: John Kinnery, (Deceased), Engineer
Witnesses: Christopher Richard Sutch; Martha Sutch

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:17

Baptism: 4 Sep 1904 St Mary, Ince, Lancashire
Hester Sutch - [Child] of John Sutch & Martha
Born: 11 Jun 1904
Abode: 9 Victoria Road
Occupation: Collier
Baptised By: Thos. Taylor Vicar

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:19

Baptism: 17 Sep 1905 St Nathaniel, Platt Bridge, Hindley, Lancashire
Martha Sutch - [Child] of John Sutch & Martha
Abode: 7 Bank St.
Occupation: Collier
Baptised By: C.R.Slee
Performed At: St Peter, Hindley

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:30

John Sutch in 1910
US Census 1910
Somerset, Gunnison, Colorado, United States John Sutch in 1910
US Census 1910
Somerset, Gunnison, Colorado, United States

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:32

John Sutch in 1920
US Census 1920
Carbon, Utah, United States John Sutch in 1920
US Census 1920
Carbon, Utah, United States

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:34

John Sutch in 1930
US Census 1930
Seattle, King, Washington, United States Household members (5 people)
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Sutch Head Married Male 51 1879 England
Martha Sutch Wife Married Female 52 1878 England
John Sutch Son Single Male 21 1909 Colorado
Evelyn Sutch Daughter Single Female 18 1912 Colorado
Donald T Jones Grandson Single Male 5 1925 Utah

Comment by: winnie on 19th January 2024 at 11:36

John Sutch in 1940
US Census 1940
Seattle, King, Washington, United States Household members (3 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital Status Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Sutch Head Married Male 62 1878 England
Martha Sutch Wife Married Female 62 1878 England
Donald T James Grandson Single Male 15 1925 Utah

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 19th January 2024 at 12:47

Winnie you're a star looking all that up !
Pity the US census doesn't seem to give occupations but Mr Sutch & Co travelled from the east to the west coast of the United States & the bits inbetween. There must still be descendants of the family somewhere.

Comment by: Edna on 19th January 2024 at 21:45

Such a lovely photo of a young family, and that was very interesting to read Winnie, thank you.

Comment by: Dennis Seddon on 19th January 2024 at 21:54

John became a Barber in Seattle, Washington. Hester died in England before John and Martha emigrated to Summerset and is buried with her grandfather in Hindley Cemetery.
John was a Miner and went to America to join his brother who was also a Miner.
This photo came from a relation in America who had been given an Album of photos by a friend with a lot of photos of the family taken when they were in England and later when in America. She has since done a great deal of research on the Album.
There are quite a few descendants in America and also in the Wigan and Platt Bridge area.
I colourised the photo via Ancestry.
John was my Grandma’s cousin.

Comment by: Dennis Seddon on 19th January 2024 at 22:06

My mistake, it was their second child, Martha that died in England. Hester went to America with John and his wife.

Comment by: Dennis Seddon on 19th January 2024 at 22:12

The lady who is researching the Album is Susan Monson of Ogden, Utah.

Comment by: tom on 20th January 2024 at 16:20

dennis there is a martha sutch buried in Ince cemetery
with the kinnery family dont think she in hindley

Comment by: winnie on 20th January 2024 at 20:47

Kinnery
Kinnery Nancy 64 yrs Belle Green Lane 03-Mar 1905 Widow C 1510 C of E
Kinnery William 55 yrs Arundel St. Hindley 28-Jul 1920 Miner C 1510 C of E
Sutch
Sutch Martha 15 mo Banks St. Hindley 26-Nov 1906 dau of John C 1510 C of E

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 21st January 2024 at 10:28

I am intrigued as to where Betley Street was in Platt Bridge. I know there is no such place now but I consulted the 1925 Hindley Directory, (Platt Bridge is included), and there is no street under that name even then. I can only assume its name was changed to another name for some reason, or it was a very old street and was demolished early in the 20th century.

Comment by: tom on 21st January 2024 at 11:00

winnie and who is interested
might interest you their is a photo on the album section its title is
.battersby, its a photo of a posse hunting outlaws in utah usa with wigan miners on it and john sutch is named he is on the left of the posse and you can recognise him its got a story with it

Comment by: tom on 21st January 2024 at 11:11

the photo on the album is titled battersby posse,

Comment by: tom on 21st January 2024 at 11:46

irene
i think you repied to one the photos in the album checkj the battersbys

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 21st January 2024 at 12:15

Tom, I'll check it out but you're probably right....my Grandma was a Battersby before marriage.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 21st January 2024 at 12:28

All very interesting Dennis, the world seems to be populated with Wiganers, I have a few in Scranton Pennsylvania, last in contact in the 60's when a Nun turned up at the door to visit!
To the best of my knowledge no one has established a town named Wigan. Am I mistaken are are we unique!

Comment by: John on 21st January 2024 at 13:46

Irene, according to the National Library of Scotland collection of old maps Betley Street was once the name for what is now Sydney Street in Platt Bridge.

Comment by: Stuart Sutch on 21st January 2024 at 18:46

I grew up in Sydney street with my older brother Peter , our dad was Peter and my mum Nancy I have very fond memories of platt bridge especially Sydney Street I never knew it was called Betley Street originally.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 21st January 2024 at 19:23

Thankyou very much John.

Comment by: John on 21st January 2024 at 21:48

No problem Irene. I wonder why it was called Betley Street in the first place. Betley is a village in Staffordshire, so I learn from Google. Was there some family or industrial connection between the two places?

Comment by: rt on 22nd January 2024 at 02:13

i think there is a town called wigan in canada

Comment by: winnie on 22nd January 2024 at 11:25

Such and interesting family

Comment by: Dennis Seddon on 22nd January 2024 at 16:27

John Sutch had four brothers and two sisters.
Three of the brothers went to America namely Christopher Richard, John and Oliver One of the sisters, Betsy went to New Zealand. Two brothers and one sister stayed in England. Tom Sutch was a Carpenter and Undertaker and Albert was gassed in the First World War but survived.
The father of these children, Peter Sutch was the brother of my great grandfather Robert Sutch.
Peter, when he died was found dead in the street near the Fox and Goose.
It’s a long story that kept me occupied with Ancestry for a some time.

Comment by: Benjy on 22nd January 2024 at 23:36

A great example of how working together (with the help of modern technology) can almost add “voices” to the long departed.

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