Wigan Album

Whereabouts in Wigan did Molly and Jane live, Mary?

Ince we think. Molly was married to a billy Robinson who we were told owned Robinson coaches. Jane had a severe mental illness due to her domestic situation so spent a few times in winwick hospital. She had 2 sons and 2 daughters.

Thankyou, Mary. I am from Ince and though I don't recognise the ladies, something made me ask where they were from. I almost knew you were going to say Ince. How odd!

faces seem familiar

Molly Robinson real name was Mary Robinson. She was my Grandmother who married my Grandfather. Her maiden name was Rigby.she was from the Michael Murphy tree catholic. My Grandfather was from the Henry Robinson tree church of England. Their sons Bill Robinson who played for Leigh, Lancashire, Great Britain and paramatta in Sidney Australia and John Robinson who wrote in the national papers Robert Maxwell company. Completed a 50 year service for Rugby league, originally named a Queen Victoria build up. It was a favour for the Royal family and the Robert Maxwell company was in contact with my uncle. When my uncle worked for the Robert Maxwell company. My Grandad Robinson played for Wigan High field A team and Leyland. Both my grandparents lived all over Wigan, especially Scholes and Whelley. They ended up 2, Dickson Cressant off standish Gate, near Wigan lane. My Grandad Robinson started off the Robinson coaches which was Orrell street in Wigan. He past it to my father Bill Robinson. Before the business Robinson coaches moved from Orrell street Wigan to Hindley. The Queen Victoria build up which was Queen Elizabeth II because my family tree was friendly to the lord Crawford of Haigh Hall Wigan. As long distance cousin to Haigh Hall Wigan. Also my Great, Great grandfather and Great Grandfather visited the lord Crawford of Haigh Hall Wigan. As went joint brewery with lord of Haigh Hall Wigan. Called the Henry Robinson and company brewery. It was Great, Great grandfather who named it after his father Henry Robinson. Henry Robinson my Great, Great, Great grandfather came from Standish. His son John Robinson moved from Standish to Wigan lane friendly to the lord Crawford of Haigh Hall Wigan. My family tree dates back 1841.

The right address were my Grandparents ended up living, with Molly Robinson being my Grandmother in picture. Her proper name was Mary Robinson 2, Dicconson Cressant, Standish Gate, near Wigan Lane.

My Grandmother is on the left of the photo. Her maid name was Rigby. Her father's name was John Thomas Rigby her Grandfather's name was william Rigby. The address her father lived with her Grandfather before father got married was 7 Wallace lane Whelley. John Thomas Rigby married Mary murphy. Mary's parents were Michael Murphy and jane bamber. When my Grandmother got married they lived all over Wigan. That includes Whelley, Scholes Village, Standish Gate off Wigan lane with my Grandfather. It's on my father tree records. My Grandmother married into the Henry Robinson tree church of England.

What are the Royal connections out the Henry Robinson tree Church of England. My Grandfather visited Haigh Hall when sir David Lindsey married into down south Royal connection. Daughter of Sir Henry Pelly 3rd Baronet. I notice some similar DNA in my family with Lindsey. My Grandmothers maiden name was Rigby. My daughter Charlotte Robinson is lady of Duncan's castle in Scotland. My nephew is born with his fathers side having Royal connections down south.

I have a Micheal Murphy come from Ireland from the Murphy Royal clan, his daughter Marry Murphy married John Thomas Rigby. That's two Royal connections in the Henry Robinson tree, plus sharing large amounts of cousins with Haigh Hall Wigan. I have copies on my Facebook

I have five Coat of arms in my Henry Robinson and Micheal Murphy, they are Grandparent, 1st Great Grandparents, 2nd Great Grandparents on both sides of the family , some would of be married into Haigh Hall family tree Rigby, Ashton, Cartwright, Murphy, Robinson. Your DNA goes up to your 10th Great Grandparents. I have mixture of DNA of coat of arms, when they past down with lord Crawford's it's always the oldest in the family. My family tree has been second, third , four ect of any of them could quite easily been first cousin to any of my 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th , 10th Great Grandparents in any of the Rigby, Cartwright, Ashton, Murphy. Which make 100% DNA in cousins or second, third, four. Tell truth when a family tree joins Haigh Hall it's 50% Rigby + 50% Royal connection. With change over of Bradshaigh Haigh to Lindsey. That was third cousin look at the statics on the internet for third cousins marrying the Rigby. From 22nd earl to 29 th earl they married into 5 Royal connections. 27th earl married 3rd Baronet Essex near to Queen Elizabeth II. One persons DNA goes from parents to 10th Great Grandparents on both sides of family

Hello I am from Wigan and looking for a man who lived in Wigan his name was Richard (Dick) Robinson he lived in scholes is this a relation of yours ...thanks ..

With a Ashton & Rigby DNA sits under Sir Roger Bradshaigh ancestor & Sir Rigby Alexander ancestor. They are shared Royal ancestors to the Royal family. Lord Crawford's are long distance cousins under Sir Roger Bradshaigh Baronets ancestor. You cannot be DNA to all lord Crawford’s. You either connect at the top or the bottom to find your Royal ancestor. It makes Queen Elizabeth II 19th on the throne. Since her throne tree joined Haigh Hall Wigan. After lady Mabel story, Bradshaigh nephew marries Elizabeth Stewart. King Robert II daughter. Queen Elizabeth II connects up to sir Roger Bradshaigh Baronets tree because Sir Roger Bradshaigh Baronet joins a Ashton & Middleton tree. I am Royal cousin with a shared old Royal ancestor.

Robinson has Ashton, Rigby, Bleasdale & Harrison DNA. They come with shared Royal ancestors, 1st Sir Roger bradshaigh baronet ancestor is 8th Great Grandson to William bradshaigh & lady Mabel. Two bradshaigh tree joins before going to Lindsay tree. Sir Roger bradshaigh baronet ancestor lost his cousin tree Sir David bradshaigh that married Elizabeth Stewart. Sir Rigby Alexander near Myles french ancestor, which myles of Princess Diana ancestor 1500's. Bleasdale & Harrison DNA is under William conqueror & son of Henry. With having English, Scottish ancestor only got 8 ancestors who are irish. Orphan Irish ancestor was sent across by Queen Victoria they were being abused in 1800's. In Ireland 1800's income tax was high, people privately educated. No police force to sort out crime of any women & children being abused. 1.1 million irish people were deported over to different countries. Including the UK, with potatoes famine. To make Ireland work well is to educate people, to pay income tax get them out of prostitution into normal employment. That's when you see Southern Ireland catholic & Northern Ireland church of England. Ireland was in mess to orphan children were deported over to make fresh start. Stop all the abuse reconstruct family trees into education, middle class background & sports. Lots of things to read about Ireland on the internet 1800's. People got deported with personal matter in Ireland & failed government.

The thing we have got Ellie Ann Robinson being on a family tree records. Ellie Ann Robinson was 3rd Great Auntie to me & family. Ellie Ann Robinson is youngest daughter of 3rd Great Grandfather & sister to 2nd John Robinson. The think to remember with Henry Robinson pitman going into middle class backgrounds & sport. Other DNA joined Robinson tree Great Grandfather Robinson had 4 children with Ashton DNA under William Bradshaigh & lady mabel, Sir Roger Bradshaigh baronet ancestor. Sir David Bradshaigh who married Elizabeth Stewart is Sir Roger Bradshaigh baronet ancestor cousin tree. Sir Roger joins Ashton & Middleton tree. Later cousin lord Crawford Lindsey. Great Grandfather william Robinson visited Lord Crawford Lindsey, with Great Auntie Doris as a little girl with her Ashton DNA. Grandfather Robinson had a Ashton DNA born later 2nd January 1912. He married Grandmother Marry nickname ( Molly ) Robinson. She was from her Rigby tree, this is Sir Rigby Alexander near myles French ancestor. French ancestor that joined Sir Rigby Alexander is Princess of Wales ancestor. Grandfather Robinson played for Wigan High field & Leyland 1930's .Father married my mother with Harrison & Bleasdale DNA they under William conquer & Son of Henry. Apart from 8 Irish ancestors, Harrison & Bleasdale ancestor has English & Scottish ancestors. DNA was still valid 50% DNA is only the start. When you do middle class background, into sport & entertainment it looks better if you have shared Royal ancestors with the Royal family. Marget Bevan is only related to my 3rd Great Auntie tree records of Henry Robinson tree. Not all Henry Robinson tree can get hold of deeds, whoever finished the business first. Even though Marget Bevan family are from Liverpool handing in them deeds, they hadn't got Ashton, Rigby, Bleasdale, Harrison DNA under shared Royal ancestors. We not the first family to contribute as middle class background & sport. Top celebrities like Brad Pitt, beyond, Jennifer Aston other Uk down London, Manchester have shared Royal ancestor. The point was to have coat of arms with shared Royal ancestor in sport , entertainment, middle class background. Towards Lindsey & Royal family.