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Bay Horse - Hallgate
Bay Horse - Hallgate
Photo: Paul
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Item #: 35755
Here is another picture of the Bay Horse (not sure where this came from, may have been on this site before so apologies for not giving credit). You can see the pie shop to the left. I agree that the ground level seems different, but the patterns on the bricks and the attic window seem similar to the building that is there now. The pub closed in 1949 and seems to have been divided into three shortly afterwards (Numbers 43, 45a and 47) according to the 1954 O/S map

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 25th April 2025 at 06:56

Paul, this photo is a brilliant find giving me a complete understanding of The location of the shop on the left featured in Helen’s photo.
My assumption was that the pie shop was at the end of upper Hallgate when it’s around the corner on lower Hallgate adjacent to the gable end of the Bay Horse. Thank you, hope Helen and Ron see this.

Comment by: Helen of Troy on 25th April 2025 at 07:35

Thanks for posting the photo Paul. So my Bradshaw grandparents pie shop was in Hallgate. I only remember being in the shop once when I stood eye level with the wooden counter.

Comment by: RON HUNT on 25th April 2025 at 08:23

Colin, yep I was always under the impression the "Pie Shop" was opposite what was the cobblers. Now I can see it was round the corner. Hallgate at one time must have been the only street in Wigan that had two 90deg bends in it??? It started from the Market Place and ended in Frog Lane. What a massive building the Bay Horse was..

Comment by: Rich on 25th April 2025 at 10:19

Whereabouts in Hallgate was this building?

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 25th April 2025 at 12:30

Rich, if you can visualise the photographer stood opposite The Anvil on the corner of Dorning Street and Bishopgate you are looking across at the corner of upper Hallgate to the right leading to Market Street and lower Hallgate to the left leading down hill to Frog Lane.
I have recently taken photo of this corner showing the current building which has many similarities to the old. If anyone want a copy drop me a line.

Comment by: Rich on 25th April 2025 at 17:46

Thanks, Colin for the explanation. Ive now seen the other photo so now I know exactly where it was.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 25th April 2025 at 20:39

Colin, I would love to see the photo. Could you email it to me please? Thankyou.

Comment by: Rich on 26th April 2025 at 09:38

There is a photo on here Irene.
It shows the full frontal of the pie shop next door and a bit of the side of the pub.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 26th April 2025 at 10:38

Thankyou, Rich.

Comment by: Cyril on 26th April 2025 at 14:10

Irene, some photos of the shop in question on Hallgate can be seen in this link: https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/showalbum.php?opt=6&gallery=Bradshaw+family

and here's a photo collection of 25 ancient pubs from around Wigan, and chosen by Frank Orrell:
https://www.wigantoday.net/heritage-and-retro/heritage/25-old-wigan-pub-pictures-many-dating-from-victorian-times-5034324?page=1

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 26th April 2025 at 18:02

Thankyou, Cyril.

Comment by: Colin Traynor on 8th May 2025 at 06:17

This makes a interesting comparison with the photo on today’s PAD picture.

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