Wigan Album

I really like these then and now photos. Well done Chris.

I agree with Geoff about the before-and-after photos. I prefer the "before" one on this example!

Is this early LMS or late L&Y? I would suggest, with the six digit number, that it must be Lancashire and Yorkshire. But it needs ratification.

Anyone?

Jarvo, Chris says that the locomotive wasn't built until 1924 which would have been after the the railways were merged into the big four in 1923 and the LMS was formed as one of them, so it would appear to have entered into service with the LMS. What puzzles me is that there doesn't appear any indication on the tender who owned it, just a number.

Jarvo, just had another look at this and if you look very closely at the tender you can just make out the letters LMS . In my earlier post I mistakenly referred to the number being on the tender when, in fact, it is on the engine just forward of the cab.

Hi Jarvo, This locomotive was L.M.S. The L & Y had disappeared when the
L.M.S was formed in 1923. The L.M.S. initials on the water tank are only
just scarcely visible. This locomotive 11111 did not have a tender, as it
was classed as a Tank Engine. Cheers, Ray.

I can add a little bit more info about the the photos.
On the left of the photo, behind the signal gantry was the Signal & Telegraph Dept. I worked for the S&T for about a year in the late sixties. On the right, on the other side of the tracks ( Where the cars and white vans are parked) was the Permanent Way Dept ( Track) I worked in that Dept for about a year in the early seventies.

Thanks, gents. I didn't notice the date it was built or the very faint LMS on the loco.

Lovely picture though on a golden age of the railways.

Weren’t these commonly referred to as. Side tankers?.

They were called Dreadnought Tanks

In the photograph of the steam engine, the furthest building, it has a turret on the top. Did the below section house the H.Q. (Wigan Division) Lancashire Constabulary?.

jarvo its obviously LMS as the Land Y was absorbed into the LNWR in 1921 three years before this baltic tank was built,admittedly at the ex l and y loco works at horwich.

As a result of the number this engine was nicknamed 'packet of Woodbines'!