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Looks like Albion Reiver too. Plenty coal there Colin. I don't remember Oliver Hart's transport.

Colin were have you dug this photo from nice one Colin I bet
its moved a lot of coal in its time at Harts it as also got
greedy boards on as well thanks for putting it on.D.C.

I suspect on it's way to Westwood power station Derrick.

I'm pleased you like the photo, Derrick.
Garry, Albion Reiver was a Six Wheel rigid and had a smaller engine than the Leyland Octopus, but had the same
type of cab.

I like the word greedy boards, I wonder who came up with that name

The correct wording is running boards, they stop coal falling off.

I said it looks like an Albion Reiver not that it is one!!
There's plenty coal to be bagged there. I'd say going to Westwood power station or a coal yard to be bagged.

My grandfather, Benjamin Rollins worked underground at Birkacre colliery which was owned by Oliver Hart.

Colin, good old photo, I remember these old lorries of 'Harts' this one a 1965 reg I think. Garry, the cab was a LAD cab fitted to Leyland - Albion - Dodge trucks short door version on Leyland Comet and Dodge vehicles, but I'm sure you know that. Beast to drive, great way to earn a living !!.

Yes you are right Walt with the variation of cabs. As you say a beast to drive, ask today's modern HGV drivers to do a load with this truck and the they'll soon hand the keys back. Even Garry.

Harts operated a fleet of tippers but also had a few flats and in the 40's/50's ran O.H.M.S ( Oliver Harts Motor Services) buses They operated a double decker bus service Coppull to Southport with a proud boast that they " never left anyone" Even Ronnie and Oliver drove at times

Jeff They were called greedy boards so the boss could get more weight on when the truck was carrying light loads ie
coke as you say it stopped the load falling off then the
police started making drivers to sheet the load to stop it
falling off D.C.

Jeff, surely a running board was the step on the side of a vehicle to enable easier entrance to the vehicle.

Jonno NO!

Jeff, in the 1940's when i used to ride in my friends Humber, it had RUNNING BOARDS and they weren't there to stop coal or any other load falling off. My dictionary meaning of running boards is :- A narrow step fitted under the side doors of a car or truck to aid entry. The only time it mentions running boards on the top of a vehicle is :- A safety appliance for walking on top of rail cars.

jonno talking about a 4x4 with running boards, nothing to do with HGVs. I suspect Derrick's right on this occasion.

Howard, 4x4 in the 1940's ???

Johnno,
Toyota in the 90s

Jonno, 1948 Land Rover. I suspect I'm right.

Jonno,
VW Beetle today on Mexican models

The three angle iron plates near the top of the body don't
look right they would look better on the inside of the body
they look like a novice has put them on D.C.

There on the outside because on the inside of the box the brackets would stop the load sliding out of the box.

Yes walt it was a 1965 reg.

Were they given a classification of weight range. eg three tonners, one tonners, etc?. I appreciate that the lorry shown would have been in a much heavier classification.

I went to WGHS with Virginia Hart friend of Susan Bridge.
Is she from this Hart family?

I saw one of o/ harts tippers on a film called Spring and Port Wine last week set in Bolton