Wigan Album
rag and bone man.
20 CommentsPhoto: thomas anglesea
Item #: 20703
Yes Harry Walder was a Wigan artist and spent a lot of time painting Wigan scenes to what i think was an excellent standard.
The easrliest example of "going green". I remember the call of the rag-and-bone man very well.
Mike, they,re still calling yet, but they drive around in small flatback vans nowadays. Gone are the days of rewarding you for your rags etc, although i wouldn,t have much use for a donkey stone these days.
I live in Yorkshire now: we still have a rag and bone man with a very attractive horse-drawn cart. He still shouts "rag/bone", although I do not think he would take either of those: scrap metal appears to be what he is really after.
I have a print of Wigan Millgirls at the top of Miry Lane by Walder.Its based on Crowe's original but still very good.I bought it at Bygone Times a few years ago.
I can remember siiting quietly on the lav at the bottom of the yard when suddenly someone would bawl 'rag bone' over the back gate ,used to put the wind up me.
Or maybe to expel the wind?
do you know what part of Wigan H.Walden came from and what year are we talking about?
Worth looking at,Thomas is Eyre Crowe's 'Dinner Hour' on google or at Manchester Art Gallery.His painting is dated 1874.My similar picture by H. Walder is the period earl 1900's.
thomas anglesea - Harry Walder lived on either Brookhouse St or Spring St, off Darlington St East.
Unsure as to which, but close to Dickinson's bottlers.
i can still hear arthur kelly shouting rag bone up scholeshe lived in boyswell lane
Harry Walder lived at 66 Darlington Street East
Why is this allowed ? It states "copywrite Smiths of Wigan "!!!!!!!!
thanks for the info Cathy B,its not far from i live.i will look it up.
Hi Dave Marsh,I did look up eyre crowe`s dinner hour on goodle,I have seen this paining so many times I did not think it was the same artist.
Thanks Cathy B.
I used to see him coming out of a house regularly near the main entrance to Dickinson's bottlers, and assumed he lived there.
My mistake.
Interesting the 66 Darlington Street East reference.I was born and bred at 64 which we occupied 1930/50 Fergusons lived at 66 all that time. I am ashamed to sdmit I've never heard of Walder although I admire the painting.
I have the original water colour of this I bought this from a picture framing shop at Pemberton , it was advertised in the local paper saying his artwork was up for sale , glad I bought these
Name Harry Walder
Death Age 82
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Registration Date Jul 1992
Registration district Wigan
Inferred County Greater Manchester
Name Harry Walder
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Residence Date 1939
Address 69 Manchester Road
Residence Place Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Occupation Steel Rolling Mill Cutter Name Harry Walder
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 12 Aug 1909
Residence Date 1939
Address 69
Residence Place Ince-In-Makerfield, Lancashire, EnglandOccupation Steel Rolling Mill Cutter
Household Members (Name) Gender
Harry Walder Male
Constance Walder
This record is officially closed.
I knew Harry Walder and his wife quite well, lovely people and used to visit his house in Darlington Street East many times when I worked with his daughter Marina at The Wigan Poster Writing Company, Chapel Lane, I think he also had a son.
Vastly under rated artist who painted many Wigan scenes, my brother has an original water colour of the Market Place either that or Wallgate Station.
When I undertook the spectator seating contract in the early 1990's for the new Whitbread Stand at Central Park and set out the colour scheme, he painted a picture of it, it was very popular at the time. I think they have a copy on the wall of the board room of my company at the time in North Berwick Maine, USA.