Tommy Robinson

Why has the Tommy Robinson thread been taken off

Bossy aren't yoo

Because people aren't allowed an opinion anymore and the internet is becoming increasingly censored where alternative opinions are deemed an "hate crime" (look what happened to Alex Jones (no not the TV presenter), he's been banned from youtube and all social media. Thought Crime will be next. BTW, I'm not a Tommy Robinson supporter, he's just part of the controlled opposition in my view.

Poppycock !!!!

TTS I. Can see why lots of good posters have left this site it’s because of people like you, get a hobby.
Thanks for your reply ashtonman but can anyone tell me what was said for admin to take it off.

Ashtonman, everything is censored, MSM and Social media. It's all propaganda. You just have to make up your own mind, and not let someone else's agenda lead you to where they want you to be.

Wizzerwin, I think TTS was just proving the point? And your censoring him. He's entitled to his opinion. Whatever it is!!

Jazzy what point was TTS making? and I’m just asking a question, if TTS knew the answer then say, if not why come out with stupid remarks.

Why had it been removed, did it turn into a slanging match?

I was just stating a 'fact' which is that wizzerwin is 'bossy'

That’s what I would like to know Terry, lots of threads have slangig matches but are not removed, it’s a simple question what needs an answer

wizzerwin said:

"TTS I. Can see why lots of good posters have left this site it’s because of people like you, get a hobby"

I agree that I doo need hobby

Any ideas

Model trains TTS

Tommy don't let them railroad you into just any old hobby.

Hit the buffers with this thread,another which will be Pickfords

I’m still waiting for an answer from admin about the other thread

Why not email the boss wizzewin?

Who’s the boss minder

Scroll to the bottom contact us. Moans or questions etc.

Did Tommy win he got my vote .

The result is not out yet. Some countries vote on Sunday.

Does anyone think he’ll get in

no,but that does not stop his democratic rights to air his views.

Tommy Robinson concedes defeat in European Elections.

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Isn’t it funny now the elections are over he’s getting the publicity, but he’s got the highest independent vote ever.

Please take the time to watch this video, then come back and discuss.

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FGS, Barrie, let it go...

He's history.

Thank God!

wizzerwin

I have watched it all, every minute of it, and I am here to discuss it

Jarvo did you watch it or didn’t you

TTS well give us your views

I will give them tomorrow

TTS

Well he made that speech in November 2014

Once a Muslim group is identified as being extreme in nature and supports terrorism, the Government bans that organisation.

The Muslim grooming gangs have and are being prosecuted for it.

Have mistakes been made by the Government and Police in the past?

YES

They should have acted sooner, when they knew that these things were being carried out by Muslims.

So what more can be done by the authorities now ?

You tell me

The government can start to put things right by stop pandering to the people who are making their own laws I.e. sharia law, our government make the laws of our country and we abide by them, well some of us do.
My step son went in a suburb of London ten years ago and when he came home he told me that there were no go areas for whites and the police didn’t go in some areas after dark. I didn’t believe him until I’ve witnessed the hatred from some of the Asian people.
What I don’t understand is why the establishment and the media ban Robinson instead of debating about the problems.

tut tut its a skin colour issue,ie fear of being denounced as RACIST.WHEN YOU CANNOT DISCUSS SUCH ISSUES FREELY DEMOCRACY IS DEAD.

baker boy You don’t know me and I’m anything but a racist.

baker boy I think you only come on this site to annoy people so You won’t annoy me I’ve blocked you.

Well it is the job of the police to keep law and order and to uphold people's rights and liberties, the pressure should be put on the police to do these things by the Government, not by extreme groups, in the video Stacy Dooley was going mental about what those Muslims were chanting and that is the way to do it, publicise it, get it out there, so people that people can see what they are doing wrong.

Tommy the police are told what to do by someone in a higher position, If I was a policeman I’d do the same, would you lose your pension for disobeying a command, not me

Yes,, so ????

That is what I said, the police need to be told by the Government to enforce the laws and not turn a blind eye ....

Is it the government that’s banning Tommy from the platforms?

Have you considered that perhaps he is doing it to himself?

He would not be getting all the national publicity without it, would he.

Bit like when punk bands vied to get banned from the beeb!

Priscus,the lad just doesn’t like injustices and there are so many things that get covered up.
He’s nothing against Muslims, he’s not a racist or a nazi it’s the ideology of Islam that’s the problem.
Ask yourself would you put yours and your family’s lives in danger for a bit of publicity?
Just go on YouTube or Tommy Robinson’s website and watch the videos

Why has the Tommy Robinson thread been taken off



Either moaning minder as been skryking.....again

Or it's because someone was getting nasty

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He has never been anything else but a football thug.

Baz just go on YouTube and see for yourself and ask how come T.R. Got the most independent votes ever in an election without any mainstream coverage if he was a thug, the people of this country are being treated like fools and we’ve let them.
Look what’s happened with this brexit sham, the establishment don’t like Robinson because he is exposing them for what they are lire’s.

Wizzerwin he's a wrong un mate, there is no excuse for him.

Terry you don’t know the man so you can only judge what you get from our media.
I’ve just looked at baz’s link but isn’t it funny that the media happened to be right behind him and you don’t know what was said to provoke that incident. So come on Terry where are you getting your information?

I've read his convictions and seen his videos. I don't think it was any media that filmed that it was very poor quality so it's probably done on a phone by another football fan. You don't know the man either but you are taking his Youtube videos as gospel, it's his ilk that he gets most of his support from, football thugs and extreme right wingers, not all but most. I understand the problems he is active against but I don't want a thug representing me and here he is again doing what he's always done being a thug.

Terry did you see the Piers Morgan clip on ITV, the media thought by getting Robinson on and locking horns with Morgan would make Robinson look like a racist, how wrong were they, Robinson destroyed Morgan.
You say I don’t know him, that’s true but I took the time to go to his rallies and saw for myself how he is treated.
Ask yourself why wasn’t that man arrested who threw the milkshake over Robinson, and was escorted to the railway station but the others who threw milkshakes at politicians was?

No I didn't, not my thing. Sorry but I can't be convinced by anyone about Robinson he is what he is and it's plain to see.

robinson in the news again assaulting a bloke who just said to him that he doesnt speak for him. when are people going to realise that all this guy & his entourage are is thugs ? .

What news is that whupscan you put a link on please

It's the same incident Wizzerwin.

I read of two incidents at the England game. Both were pictured in the press. On those photo’s he did appear to be a thug.

Thanks Broady. I haven't seen the other.

I only glanced but from reading the account he went face to face with, what looked like, a youngish lad a couple of rows behind him.

A THUG and an IDIOT . Who could give him the time of day. Exploiting fears in peole for a living instead of doing an honest days work

Guess what you’ve read about it in our papers well I never, but if you’d taken the time to research about it you’d find that the man was drunk and had been abusing Robinson and his wife for ages and got what he deserved, the man is not pressing charges because he said it was his fault
Now go and find a response from T. R. I ask you what would you do in that situation.

Probably the same as the hundreds of people who are in/ have run for for public office and get abuse everyday, go through the proper channels and not start chinning people in the street!

dont forget the video evidence ? .

Chatty go through the right channels, do you mean like the man who threw milkshake over him and nothing was done, there are rules for some but not for others.

That's a different argument, if 'nothing was done' it needs looking into.
What we don't need is would be politicians taking the law into their own hands and kicking off seemingly everytime they are out and about!

Chatty I agree with you but who would do the looking? The government hate him for telling the truth, the media only publicise the bad things because they are told to and the police and the justice department only do what they told by a higher level.
Ask yourself one question, T.R. Stood for the european elections he only got bad publicity, WHY. I went to three of the rallies and the only trouble cam from some of the Muslim community but it was portrayed in the press as T.Rs thugs.

Well prepared to keep an open mind , but please back up your statemnets with some facts

The one true fact is the public didn’t back him at the ballot box.

If the authorities are out to discredit him, and they know by not looking into any abuse claims against him he's going to take the law into his own hands and do the job for them they're even less likely to investigate said claims.

Aussie94 take a look at these

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wiz i was not trying to upset anyone ,but certain issues if you want to discuss them ie skin colour/religion/politics are a strict taboo by the PC brigade.
what happened to that old guy who said he supported trump in the middle of that anti trump political demo is just one example of not being allowed to diisent against the left.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson, jailed for nine months at Old Bailey over contempt of court

Does anyone know why he uses a false name

He has used a shed full of names. According to google this is the name of a prominent Luton Town fan who was a member of some gang or other.

It's not long enough, thugs like him should be kept off our streets.

God almighty you only see what our media want you to see, he’s been put in Belmarsh prison a category one prison for a trumped up offence, google Belmarsh prison to see what it says.
Open you’re eyes people

Best place for him we don't need the likes of him infecting the minds of young people with his right wing rhetoric and thuggish acts because people don't agree with his crap.

Thuggish, that's rich coming from you.

It's easy to find stuff on "Tommy Robinson". His supporters will say it's all made up so how about something from the man himself:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-video-drugs-cocaine-islam-far-right-israel-palestine-edl-a8776991.html

Can't do links but you can copy and paste into your search box.

Just what this country needs along with the anti-Semites lead by Corbyn. Summary executions for the lot is the answer.

That’s my point stacker when Robinson was canvassing for Euro MP theres nothing on the media but when he was convicted he got more attention than the pope.
I see what was on the video but he was pissed,
Terry forget about politics just for once.

I'm no fan of the guy, but anyone familiar with the case for which he's been slung back in jail for can't argue that he hasn't been stitched up.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48942411

SYL was initially charged with contempt of court.
In this case it meant that his actions and words jeopardised a trial.
He was found guilt and sentenced.

He appealed, was found guilty, again, and duly sentenced.

I later emerged that that SYL's actions very nearly jeopardised the case:

"Today, thanks to that hearing, we know Robinson nearly derailed the Leeds trial after judges at the Old Bailey revealed what happened next. There were attempts by the grooming gang defendants to have the trial stopped on the basis that a jury could no longer reach a fair verdict. One of the men even managed to get a hearing at the Court of Appeal that could have led to him being freed."

This from the link provided by stacker lee.

SYL's actions could have led to some of this grooming gang to be freed.
This why we have laws concerning contempt of court and not mob violence determining the outcome of trials.

Don't you think that sounds a bit silly Wizzer telling me to forget about politics when you're on about Robinson canvassing for Euro MP? More likely he was off his head on cocaine than drunk. I wonder if his children are proud of him being a thug and coke head?

Terry my problem is with you that you keep bringing Corbyn in a subject at every opportunity, everyone knows you don't like the man but after the next election he will be our prime minister whether we like it or not.
what I do like is you are willing to debate.

wigandiver, link

"wigandiver, link"

On Fox news ? That is how it is spelled isn't it ?

He was found guilty of contempt. SYL can whinge.

He was found guilt and sentenced.

He appealed, was found guilty, again, and duly sentenced

That's why I qualified my post with 'anyone familiar with the case'.

Actually he appealed the contempt finding which was quashed by the court of appeal because "the correct legal procedure hadn't been followed"

Lady Justice Sharp then ruled that fresh proceedings could be brought against him and when they were, a charge of 'unlawful physical aggression' was added, and for anyone who saw the recording (since removed off You Tube) of his approach to the convicted pedophiles on the day, it raise's the question of a stitch up.

"Anyone familiar with the case" knows that he was found guilty of contempt of court twice.

"for anyone who saw the recording (since removed off You Tube) of his approach to the convicted pedophiles on the day, it raise's the question of a stitch up."

Red herring. No stitch up: guilty.

SYL is a thug, a racist and a bigot, but boy can he whinge.

As already stated not the guys biggest fan, but that doesn't alter the facts of both cases, which you are obviously unable to comprehend.

What facts ? Explain; but no conspiracy theories please.

I'm more than capable of comprehension.

Don't try to portray SYL as a martyr. It won't wash with me.

Wizzer, I'm just pointing out that we are in deep sh1t with our so called leaders now and adding this fool Robinson who is a known p1ss head and coke user is not helping our country by trying to put him up as a Euro MP or anything else he wants. He's nothing more than a throwback football hooligan who is using hate as a means to get noticed, his kind of hatred not very long ago cost millions of lives and the touch paper has already been lit once again by fools from the other side who hate just like he does.

What facts? Explain;

I have already explained, your post that he appealled and it was dismissed was factually wrong.
And I also pointed out at the retrial, charges were added that did not match the footage that was available until recently.
Footage you have obviously seen because you're 'familiar' with the case?

"your post that he appealled and it was dismissed was factually wrong"
Please get it right. I never wrote that. At his second trial, he was again found guilty.

His appeal was NOT dismissed. It was allowed, but due to the sentence imposed NOT the charges, or the verdict.
That is why there was a second trial.

Charged, tried, found guilty, appealed, re-tried, found guilty and whinged.

YSL could also have been guilty of enabling groomers and sex offenders to walk free, due to his racist, bigotted and thuggish behaviour.

How on earth do you know what I have seen.
I have not seen any "footage".

On his first appeal the verdict was quashed. The judgement did not stand because 'the correct legal procedure hadn't been followed' it had nothing to do with the 'sentence'?

I already know you haven't seen the 'footage' your;
Red herring. No stitch up: guilty.
post told me that.

Wigandiver tell me this do you think he should have been put in Belmarsh a category one prison even if he was guilty?

Terry all our M.Ps pee in the same pot, they all feather their own nest

If I was an MP I wouldn't piddle in the same pot as other MP's and neither would I feather me nest

Wizzerwin,
He should have gone in a low category prison. One like the expense fiddling MP's were sent to. Sadly wherever you go in the world if you upset " the establishment" rightly or wrongly, they have it in for you. In lots of countries, and you don't need me to tell you which, he would have been shuffled off the face of the earth. Maybe he should be in those I read about today where they give you the key to your cell if "you are a good boy"

I've just seen that Broady, giving a key to your own cell, what next being allowed out on Fridays for a night out with the lads? What on earth is going on in this country, it's hard to distinguish who should be locked up these days.

"Wigandiver tell me this do you think he should have been put in Belmarsh a category one prison even if he was guilty?"

Belmarsh is the default place prisoners are taken to from the Old Bailey before often being transferred to another prison to serve their sentence. A legal source said that convicts serving less than six months often serve their time in Belmarsh rather than being moved to save on the administration.

From.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/12/tommy-robinson-fans-set-target-prison-former-edl-leader-jailed-contempt-court-10213738/
Worth a read.
He was sentenced to 19 weeks, of which he will have to serve half before release.

TTS you’d make a good councillor ha ha.

Spot on broady

Terry they won’t give Tommy a key but they might give the Muslim gangs a key to his door.
What next pizza delivery or ring a prostitute

wizzerwin

I have read about this saga for months now and I have now come to some concloosions .....

1, I don't need Tommy Robinson to represent my views about the Muslim grooming gangs, I am capable of hating them on my own and I do hate them.

2. However, I don't hate of blame other Muslims who are decent people, I don't tar all Muslims with the same brush.

3. I have grave concerns about how the massive numbers of immigrants who have entered this country in recent years, has impacted the infrastructure and culture of this country, but I don't blame the people who have come here, I blame the system which has allowed them to come here.

4. I blame the EU and Liberal minded British Politicians for 'rigging' the system to allow unfettered immigration into this country, in that the more EU immigrants there are in this country, the easier it is for the EU to impose their will upon us and the seemingly impossible task of us actually leaving the EU is a demonstration of the power the EU has over us, and that in itself is a reason to leave the infernal EU organisation.

like most people who raise the immigration issue 1stroke you never mention how many people have left ? .

But will all those "decent" Muslims side with the Christians of this country when they do take over or will they swear allegiance to Allah and his laws?

Good post Tommy.

In the year to September 2018 net migration to the UK was 283,000. Lots of figures available on Google. It should be stressed that these are official figures. There seems to be illegals arriving almost daily.

Yet some of our officials think it's the right thing to do allowing them in in droves.

Whupsy

The figures given are for 'NET' immigration, which incloodes people who have left.

i.e. for example if in any given time period, lets say 3 million immigrants entered this country and 1 million people left this country, then the 'NET' immigration into this country would be 2 million and the figures which folk talk about are the 'NET' immigration figures.

I’m with you TTS good post,

P.S. if you’re not too old go for an independent councillor ha ha. You’d get my vote

there's 4.5 million people come into the UK there,s 5.5 million left ? .

Since when and where did you get the figures? Earlier this week I checked your surname which is of Irish origins. Does that mean somewhere along the line your ancestors “ bailed out of the country of their birth?” Surely not.

Some facts whupsy

UK Population Increase

From that information in the ten years between 1975 and 1985 the population increased by 328,000

Between 2005 and 2015 after Tony opened the door to everyone in 2004, the population rise was 4,697,000

From a three hundred and twenty eight thousand increase in between 1975 and 1985 to a four million six hundred and ninety seven thousand increase, in between 2005 and 2015

That is what it is all about whupsy, the numbers and the numbers are frightening and it needs to stop before this country goes bankrupt from it ....

more fake news 1stroke ? .it,s a fact that 5.5 million have left the uk.

Official Gov figures to 28/2/19 627000 immigrants and 345000 emigrants in the last year taking into the NET figures they have been stable since 2016

You can’t believe a word our politicians say, half of them lie through their teeth and the other half duck and dive the questions

immigration and pensions
If you earn the national average wage in the UK even if you have worked all your life from the age of 18 to pension age you will never have paid enough money into the national insurance to earn a full pension - 163 pounds a week - it is mathematically impossible. Because of this and the fact that people are living for much longer you need an average of 83 people in employment to pay 1 pensioner's costs. That is why you need immigration - that is a principal reason you need it - so you may not like immigrants but they are necessary - its simple mathematics.

yes & most of immigrants pay tax unlike someone i know on here ? .

. Could you produce figures to back up your statement? Your statement seems to be at odds with everything in Google etc.

Could you produce figures to back up your statement??? here is were all the info you need to find the figures Office for National Statistics Not all is on Google

and if you dont want immigration you have to rise the fertility rate in THE UK from 2.1 FERTILITY IN EUROPE

also another way to raise capital for pensions is to privatize /SELL government services!!! so take you pick

wot are you on about broady as you are 1 of the statistics arnt you & did,nt you leave this country just like the other 5.5 million worldwide ? .any government figures are biased & dont reflect true figures & i would,nt believe any tory figures as they are just like the unemployment figures that they massage to their advantage.

Whupsy

The Tories use the same statistical information as what Labour and the Yoonions use, from the ONS (office of national statistics) and if you think there are five million fewer people in this country, then I suggest you nip down to casualty and see if they are short of customers, or ask folk who are trying to get their kids into local schools, whether they think there are fewer people in this country ...

rubbish again 1stroke . the torys lie about everything to do with the common man.blame jeremy hunt for lack in the NHS . i suggest you look for a new search engine with proper news on it .

Definitely be short of doctors n nurses one stroke

handsome miner

I agree and we want those immigrants, that is controlled immigration, but its out of control at the moment, with millions of immigrants we don't want .....

That’s why some countries have the points system or similar. They have some control of who enters the country and obviously Doctor’s and Nurses would be right up on the list.

no chance of that as they want to get rid of the NHS .

Whoever takes it over will still need Doctors and Nurses. Not that I think it will be taken over.

imending disaster

yes but at a price.

whupsy

I don't believe they want to get rid of the NHS but the Tory's have tried to make it cost less money, to be more efficient and I think they have failed, they have made the problems it has worse.

But I will say again and that is that there are too many people in this country now, for the same infrastructure we have always had, since the NHS was created ...

I can't understand why yoo like the EU so much whupsy

rubbish again 1stroke , the torys have tried to get rid of the NHS since it,s inception in 1948 . why would you put jeremy hunt in charge of it when he,s wrote a book & put in a white paper on how to privatise the NHS ? . you may not care about people but i do & if & when we come out of the EU it will definitely cost jobs even tho car companies say it wont . just look at nissan & vauxall are waiting to see what happens with the deal & if it,s a no-deal they are ready to up sticks & leave .

Why are so many Northern areas in favour of leaving the EU I wonder?

i wonder if it,s because it,s an immigration issue . you only need look at 1stroke,s posts ? .

From afar I would say that was definitely what it was about. None of us understand import tariffs etc. they voted because of unfettered immigration.

Soon be time.

no matter which party was in power there,s absolutely nothing they could do about immigration from the EU.

QED.

Paddy Whups,
Do you know that 70% of your posts are between twelve and half past? What part of Ireland did your ancestors do a runner from?