General   (General discussion, talk about anything.)

gaffer

Well I think that you and Peter Israel have put the two sides of the argument, the overmanning in the industry, versus the safety aspects of having driverless trains and unmanned stations.

I mean it is OK to put CCTV cameras everywhere, in the trains, trackside, and on the stations etc, and maybe an operator can see if someone is being attacked, or are very ill, but if the police, ambulance fire service are called immediately, the police won't turn up for about three hours, the ambulance even longer, and even the fire service has faced cut backs in recent years, so what do you do ?