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The trial

Started by: basil brush (20155)

of these scumbags started yesterday but i haven't heard much about it.

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Started: 1st Jul 2025 at 13:45

Posted by: a proud latics supporter (7381)

Well they are still selecting the jury, so the trial hasn't started yet, but I am sure that when it does, it will be all over the news channels and newspapers

Replied: 1st Jul 2025 at 14:28

Posted by: basil brush (20155)

why is it taking so long to select a jury?

Replied: 3rd Jul 2025 at 12:30

Posted by: a proud latics supporter (7381)

Basil

The jury has now been sworn in, and the trial begins this very afternoon LINK

Replied: 3rd Jul 2025 at 14:35

Posted by: basil brush (20155)

well let's hope, that now it will be all over the TV and Papers

Replied: 3rd Jul 2025 at 15:02

Posted by: gaffer (8401) 

Todays Telegraph

Two brothers headbutted a stranger in a Starbucks before assaulting police officers at Manchester Airport, a jury has heard.
Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, allegedly used a “high level of violence” after police were called to respond to an earlier incident at the cafe in Terminal 2 on July 23 last year.
Opening the prosecution case on Friday, Paul Greaney KC, said officers who were already in the airport later traced them at the terminal’s car park payment area.
Three officers, Pc Zachary Marsden and emergency worker Pc Ellie Cook – both armed – and Pc Lydia Ward, unarmed, approached the defendants, he said. They were then attacked.
‘Not a complicated case’
Mr Greaney told jurors the prosecution’s position was “not a complicated case”.
He said: “The events you are concerned with were captured by CCTV cameras and, in relation to the events in the payment area on the body-worn cameras of police officers as well.
“So you will not have to depend only on the recollections of witnesses. You will also be able to see with your own eyes what happened.
“The two defendants assert, as we understand it, that at all stages they were acting in lawful self-defence or in defence of the other.
“Our prediction is that you will readily conclude that the defendants were not acting in lawful self-defence and that their conduct was unlawful.”
‘Entirely unlawful’
Mr Greaney said the defendants had travelled to the airport with their young nephew to collect their mother who was due to arrive back on a flight from Qatar at Terminal 2.
Jurors were then shown the CCTV footage from the incident at Starbucks, lasting around one minute and 50 seconds, before it was replayed for a second time.
The footage showed defendants walking past the shop until their mother sees the man she had the disagreement with and points him out to her sons.
Her youngest son then appears to confront a man named Abdulkareem Ismaeil, who was on the same flight as the defendants’ mother. He was travelling with his wife and three young children.

The prosecutor said, “it is clear that on the flight and/or shortly after it landed, something happened between the defendants’ mother and Abdulkareem Ismaeil that made the defendants’ mother unhappy.
“At just after 8.20pm, the defendants’ mother spotted Abdulkareem Ismaeil and pointed him out to her sons. The footage shows Mr Ismaeil backed against the counter of the Starbucks with Amaaz close to him.
“During that confrontation, Mohammed Fahir Amaaz delivered a headbutt to the face of Abdulkareem Ismaeil and punched him, then attempted to deliver other blows, all in front of a number of children.
Mr Greaney told jurors the violence was entirely unlawful and delivered out of “anger” and not in self-defence.
The prosecutor said Mr Ismaeil is not a witness so the jury will not hear from him.
He was visiting the UK with his family and just wanted to get on with his holiday and declined to give a statement to police.
Mr Greaney added: “However, the absence of evidence from him makes it no less easy to conclude that the first defendant behaved unlawfully in Starbucks.”
‘High level of violence’
Jurors were then played CCTV footage from when the three uniformed police officers entered the car park pay station at 8.28pm.
Mr Greaney said: “The officers attempted to move Mohammed Fahir Amaaz away from a payment machine in order to arrest him, but he resisted, and his brother Muhammad Amaad intervened.
“Both defendants assaulted Pc Marsden. In the moments that followed, the first defendant also assaulted Pc Cook and then Pc Ward too, breaking her nose. The defendants used a high level of violence.
“He [Amaaz] was still holding Pc Marsden round the neck as he fell, dragging the officer to the floor with him. At that point, Pc Marsden was able to roll away and get to his feet.
“The first defendant [Amaaz] then raised and moved his head towards Pc Marsden who, it seems, in response kicked him to the face and then brought his foot down towards the top of his head in what looks like a stamping motion.
“We recognise those actions look rather shocking in the cold light of day, but we suggest they need to be judged in the context of the very serious level of threat posed by the defendants to an officer, who was concerned that his firearm might be taken from him at an airport.”
‘Offensively, not defensively’
Mr Amaaz is alleged to have assaulted Pc Marsden and Pc Ward, causing them actual bodily harm.
He is also accused of the assault of Pc Cook and the earlier assault of Abdulkareem Ismaeil at Starbucks.
Amaad, 26, is alleged to have assaulted Pc Marsden, causing actual bodily harm.
Both men, from Rochdale, Greater Manchester, deny the allegations.
Mr Greaney said: “In any event, those actions all occurred after the violence of the defendants.
“The position of the prosecution is that they are logically irrelevant to the lawfulness of the conduct of Mohammed Fahir Amaaz and Muhammad Amaad as charged in the indictment.
“What you have seen is the two defendants acting offensively, not defensively. The position of the prosecution is that their apparent defence of self-defence is false.”
The trial continues.

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 15:30

Posted by: a proud latics supporter (7381)

Thank you Gaffer

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 16:06

Posted by: basil brush (20155)

mails reporting on it as well, don't know if there owt on TV

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 16:13

Posted by: hollyH (109)

It's on the BBC website too.

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 18:22

Posted by: a proud latics supporter (7381)

Basil

The trial is being held at Liverpool Crown Court, so why don't you go and see if you can sit in the public gallery and watch the trial

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 18:51

Posted by: tonker (29778) 

It's just been reported on telly.
As per gaffer's article, the prosecuting barrister, Paul Greaney KC says it's “not a complicated case”.
I agree. All the evidence is there to see. So, if it's not a complicated case, why is it going to last three weeks?

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 19:24

Posted by: tomplum (14740) 

because lawyers and solicitors are leeches and bleed the system as much as they can,

Replied: 4th Jul 2025 at 21:12

Posted by: Billinge Biker (3087) 

Better be ready for protest and riots if they are convicted.....They will kick off grand style....Personally give them 10yrs each...

Replied: 7th Jul 2025 at 08:17

Posted by: Owd Codger (4470)

and with no curry meals!

Replied: 7th Jul 2025 at 11:18

 

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