Winter Fuel Allowance Part 2

It transpires that approximately 35000 UK pensioners living abroad will still get their Winter Fuel Allowance!
The stupidity of Government knows no bounds!
Perhaps we should all move to Spain, Portugal etc??

Only sums up the thinking of MP's these days.

A newly elected Labour MP in Bolton together with the Unison Union think that it is only migrants who are exploited by employers.

Has she never heard for a example of the private companies that now employ carers on the minimum wage with no added pay for working unsocial hours, no matter what colour, religion or background they come from in our country.

Brits living in Spain or Portugal will not get fuel money, because they are warmer than here!
Here is a list of the "yes" countries.

Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
Germany
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Sweden
Switzerland

Take it from me, not all of Spain, or Portugal, is warmer than England in winter. And, some of those listed countries certainly are!

Can't argue with you Tonks, I don't know enough about it.

The list I put up was from Gov.UK

I’ll explain, then you’ll know something about it. Where I am is a 2 hour drive from the Pyrenees. It snows here in winter and freezes. There are actually glaciers in Spain!

Sicily, Italy, rarely drops below 15 degrees, yet Italy is on your list!

That said, not many people living in Spain or Portugal will be entitled to pension credit (legitimately), so it’s all relative!

As regards the new Labour government and the lead balloon decision to remove the Winter Fuel Allowance, it really has upset a lot of pensioners, who know doubt voted for Labour at the general election, only for one of the first things that Labour did was to give those pensioners who voted for them a kick in the teeth.

How do you know for certain the tories wouldn't have removed it?

After all they are quite good at telling lies. The £350 million per week and 40 new hospitals promised were in their brexit manifesto.
Once they "got brexit done" it's never been mentioned!

The only thing that has been "done" are the people who voted for it

If the tories had removed the allowance, you wouldn't have the liebour faithful on here saying they agree with it because some pensioners can afford it. They would be shouting from the rooftops about how the tories were barstewards, hate the working class etc.

Let’s face it, the pensioners who are on a low income will lose nothing. Couples who are getting £440 plus a week will lose about £5 a week. Is it worth bothering about?

At last somebody gets the facts right! Well said tonka.

The loss of £5 per week or £260 per year to those on low incomes will be more than welcomed!

I don’t think you’ve said that right.
None the less, the fact is, those on low incomes will lose nothing, like I said earlier.

tonker

Those on low incomes or should I say benefits never do!

Its those who are kept just above the figure where you can claim benefits that will miss your £5 per week

If you’re single and on less than £218 a week, plus you have less than £16,000 in capital and you don’t own land and property, you won’t lose anything. £332 a week for a couple.
If you have saved up, invested, or paid into a private pension, you’ve shot yourself in t’foot!

Don't mention facts, Tonker.
Some pensioners don't want to hear them!

I don't think IAM anywhere near being on the top 50% of wealthy pensioners and I don't need the heating allowance so it figures that at least 50%% of pensioners don't need it and IAM guessing most of the whinging Tories on here don't need it,I'd soon the government give it to the needy

Even though a lot of “the needy” are the ones who’ve never worked?

Handsomeminer said,

I don't think IAM anywhere near being on the top 50% of wealthy pensioners and I don't need the heating allowance so it figures that at least 50%% of pensioners don't need it and IAM guessing most of the whinging Tories on here don't need it,I'd soon the government give it to the needy

Replied: 28th Aug 2024 at 18:02


So they are all whinging Tories then!
How do you know? You seem to be saying there are only 2 political parties.

Posted by: tonker (28519) [View tonker's page]
"Even though a lot of “the needy” are the ones who’ve never worked?"

I'm assuming he means the genuine needy pensioners that don't have the benefit of a private pension or two, or three.

Handsome miner, as I posted earlier if the tories had done it you'd have wanted a lynching, but because it's the liebour party that's done it you're looking for excuses for them.........

Tonker , there are those that never worked but their forefathers paid in full by giving all and, there are some that, just come over on a boat, who shuld come first ?

Load of ballcocks credit and brasstoff

FOR such thing as fuel allowance i honestly believe that to qualify you should only be paid it if your living in BRIATAIN during the winter months .
Obviously one cannot stop OLD AGE PENSION BUT as for this fuel they are as far as im concerned STEALING MONEY!!
G.B.

Why should millionaires get it ?

Handsomeminer

The same could be said about people who have no intention of working and content to live off the backs of tax payers like yourself!

Tend to agree with you OC

There will be pensioners who don't or will not claim what they are entitled to and will freeze over winter and some will die. Our boat people will be kept in the warmth over winter and if any objection is raised about this the stock answer is they are not used to the cold weather

PeterP...if anyone objected about the boat people they'd be classed as racist, right wing or both by this lot.

I object about these economic disease bringing scroungers setting foot on English turf.

I see the Gronk Rayner is sunning it up in Ibiza...another freebie ? Noses in troughs the lot of em.

PeterP

What they say in the media about the thousands of people not claiming what they are entitled to is miles away from the reality of actually getting it as many have found out when they have applied.

People need to consult any member of the workshy as they are the experts in getting the benefits!

What do you think of labours U turn

LINK

I am very pleased about it

But what a lot of fuss over £200 though, because it is not a lot in this day and age, it should be at least £500

Owdcodger will be flicking through the winter holiday brochures now

I wonder if he applauds the Labour government for reinstating it?

Cheshirecat

It is only yourself who has ever said anything about pensioners like myself spending their winter fuel allowance on winter holidays!

As for Labour doing a massive U turn, it is only because of of losing so many Labour votes and becoming so unpopular in only less than a year, that I like many others will not being applauding what was a terrible political suricidal blunder!

p.s. Oh and if I was looking for a holiday, it would not be for one in your wonderland world of mad hatters tea parties!

"It is only yourself who has ever said anything about pensioners like myself spending their winter fuel allowance on winter holidays!"

Wrong again, owdcodger

You must have missed this which was posted 2 days ago

Posted by: tonker (29698) [View tonker's page]
"A Wiganer and his wife went to Tenerife for a week, to get rid of their heating allowance. As they passed by the local medical centre, on their way to the Wigan Pier Bar"

When will you ever learn?

Cheshirecat

Wrong again as I am not a Wiganer, only live in Wigan.

Oh, and I have never been on any winter holiday, not even to a winter wonderland!

"Caramba! 'Ast'any Bisto"?

Owdcodger.
At least the goverment have realised that they have made a mistake, and furthermore have had the backbone to openly admit that they got it wrong.

You should try doing that on here instead of skirting around subjects when you are wrong.

Get one booked OC,s bit of winter sunshine might brighten up your disposition

Who's let two of the sheep out?

Skirting around, again.

Just man ( or woman ) up for a change and give an adults reply. It's not too difficult, even for you. But, then again, it's you

Cheshirecat

If you desire a proper reply, I will give you one

Not much being said on Wigan World these day's about the present Labour government's policies and the present shambles in the running of the country by those who had a lot to say prior to the general election about the fourteen bad years of the last lot.

As a result of what has happened in just one year, Councils which were Labour controlled for years are now under the control of a right wing Reform party and it has happened with the help of many traditional Labour voters!

The founders of the Labour Party like Kier Hardie, James Maxton, Sydney and Beatrice Webb etc must be turning in their graves with what has happend to the now non Socialist Labour Party they created!

Now pick the bones out of what is a bit of truth!

I think this is the worst Labour? government ever. I would not trust anyone from Starmer down,a complete shower and blatant liars.I used to be member of the Labour Party and I find it hard to understand why they have gone like this and seem to have little regard for people.I know the Tories left a mess but how long can Labour hide behind it.

Owdcodger.
I think you are losing it.

Quite a lot of people on here, myself included have criticised the Labour party. Open you're eyes!

Once again the picketing coach is getting his opinion mixed up with facts

retep1949

Not according to the Cheshirecat and Handsomeminer who think they are doing all right!

As for membership of the Labour party, so was I until Blair, Campbell and now Lord Peter Medalson created New Labour, ditched Socialism to become the mess of a party that it has become today!

There is no one in the Labour Party with any leadership or charisma.I thought Darren Jones could change things but is just another damp squib.Reform must be rubbing their hands.Blair looks good compared to this lot.

OC when you get your WFA book a couple of week in Benidorm ,find a bar with a happy hour n try not to spoil it

They've all had a Charisma by-pass at birth....

If you keep an whinging sir just your on the right track

Handsomeminer

Are you feeling alright as you keep repeating the same stupid gibberish!

Your getting your opinion mixed up with facts again,get that winter holiday booked yuo,'ll have a far sunnier disposition

Hamdsomeniner

It was just an observation as I know of someone who has OCD and like yourself tends to have the same problem of keep saying the same thing which you are doing again!