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Started by: bentlegs (5310)

I was explaining wigan spyek to my grandaughter today & it made me think, When our people want to send something in code the y could use WIGGIN SPEAK< The Ruskies Would never crack it.

Started: 3rd Jan 2022 at 16:12

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Yeeeeah, raaaaight laaaaike!

Contunotusethowd’adduckspeyk? Reet?
Wigan accent’s shaaaaaite an sounds laaaaike yerrabit sloooow, laaaaike!

Replied: 3rd Jan 2022 at 16:25

Posted by: bentlegs (5310)

Get this in thi yed tonker Yikers don,t speyk any differernt to Wiginers not them down Church Road.

Replied: 3rd Jan 2022 at 16:33

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Course they do! And you Ashtoners speak different again!
All that owd Lancashire pit-mon talk is miles away from Wigan accent! Reet? Or raaaaaight, as the case may be!

Replied: 3rd Jan 2022 at 16:38

Posted by: annemarie (292)

Why do you comment on Wigan SpeakWhen u dont come from Wigan

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 19:29

Posted by: Platty (2107)

annemarie: result (as they say)

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 19:33

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Annemarie, taking it that your comment might, possibly, be aimed at me, I’ll answer it!

I’m as much “from Wigan” as the author of the thread. That’s not at all. Why not ask him “why have you started a thread on Wigan speak when you don’t come from Wigan”?

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 20:33

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Bloody Bowtoners!

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 20:34

Posted by: annemarie (292)

Living in Blackrod now because my late husband wanted to be near his late mother does not and will never make me a boltoner I still have Wigan phone code

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 20:48

Posted by: annemarie (292)

And as for your drawll likeeeeeeeeee ect I do not know anyone in my family who sounds like that

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 20:59

Posted by: annemarie (292)

I would like to add I made a general comment which was not aimed at anyone

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:14

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

What’s an area phone code got to do with anything? Or a postcode?
Or, as you point out yourself, a council?
Like you say, you are originally from Wigan and that makes you a Wiganer. Bolton council doesn’t count!
And, on that point, it makes you the only true Wiganer on this thread. The rest of us are plastics!

Now then, I don’t think you’ve quite caught on with the Wigan accent.
It’s not “likeeeeeeeeeee”. No, not at all. It’s “laaaaaaaike” (think Paddy McGuiness, raaaaight)!

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:16

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:26

Posted by: peter israel (2126) 

well it would not be the first time that indigenous people have be used
Navajo Code Talkers

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:28

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15382)

How Now Brown Cow

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:28

Posted by: annemarie (292)

Sorry I went to language training so my la and err may be wrong I would also add people in the North are intelligent well spoken as I am sure you know.And they also can give impression of being slow

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 21:34

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15382)

The Rain in Spain, Falls mainly on de Plane

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 22:42
Last edited by Tommy Two Stroke: 14th Jan 2022 at 16:07:19

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

“ gooin’ douyn Pem on t’baaaikes, laaaaike, eight o’clock, raaaaight”?

Replied: 9th Jan 2022 at 22:53

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

"Were they war planes? "

"Na, They seem to have thir own!" "

I have a few friends who are Geordies. Their speech can be challenging at times.

Maybe it is catching. I was once mistaken for a Geordie when I walked into a shop, and completed the lines of a Geordie song which the proprietor happened to be singing!

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 13:03
Last edited by ena malcup: 10th Jan 2022 at 22:15:04

Posted by: annemarie (292)

Oh the summer time is coming and the trees are sweetly blooming and the wild mountain thyme grows around the blooming heather will ye go lassie go Nothing to do with post I just like the song

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 20:02

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Geordie shipbuilders song. -

Life’s not so grand,
when you’re standin’ on yer hands
and bashing in the rivets with yer head!

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 20:37

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

Tumtingle, I've sin thi Mam doin monalogs in oud Lancashire int clubs, how many on here would understand her now, but you could hear a pin drop in them days in case they missed anything

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 20:48

Posted by: tomplum (12487) 

Wigan song,

When things are bad, and friends are few

you have to paddle your own canoe

then if you find, you've got no ore,

you're no worse off

than you was before

Replied: 10th Jan 2022 at 20:48

Posted by: bentlegs (5310)

Tumtingle, My mam was asked to appear on stage at the Theatre Royal in Sinthelens she did about 4 shows.She didn,t want to do it but an agent Cliff Gerard would come to our house to perswade her.

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 15:41

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15382)

Tonker

"Someone's stole my Hammmmmmmmerrrrrrr

But I'm still going to earn my Bread !

But life’s not so grand,

When you’re standin’ on yer hands

And bashing in the rivets with yer head
"

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 16:11

Posted by: GOLDEN BEAR (6556) 

I think if the accent was from Liverpool then that would be more likely not to be understood !! GB

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 16:40

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

She was good really good, Pam Airs did it years later on TV but not a patch on you Mum, just think if your Mam had had a good writer using in his own words and your Mam read them out in her own way as she did in the 40/50/60, she didn't only talk Wiginees but words from all over Lancashire in the same reading,

She would start off by saying I GEET A LETUR TO DAY FROM OUR ------ AL JUST READ IT YU and you didn't know when she was going to stop

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 22:05

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Where did Bentlegs’s mam come from then? I wouldn’t put money on it being Wigan!

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 22:15

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

I think it was Downall Green or Garswood as a girl not sure but known them all my life

Replied: 14th Jan 2022 at 22:28

Posted by: PeterP (11305)

Don't forget in them days DG came under the Ashton area not so today it comes under the St Helens area I am told I have a Wigan accent but I was born in Garswood and my mother was a "Yicker" and my dad was from Gosport So where did I pick my accent up from

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 08:48
Last edited by PeterP: 15th Jan 2022 at 17:18:19

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

You got your accent from Garswood, obviously. An Ashton accent is not a Wigan accent.
Talking ‘broad’ is not talking with a Wigan accent.
I have relatives in Garswood, on my mum’s side, and in Billinge on my dad’s side. I mean ‘old’ relatives.
I remember visiting when I was a kid, and they’d be in their 70’s / 80’s then. All spoke with a broad pitmon / farmer accent. The women too. My great, great aunt in Spindle Hillock, Garswood wore clogs and a shawl.
My wife is from Wigan. That’s Wigan, not another town, close to Wigan. Her relatives on her mum’s side were all from Wigan. NONE spoke with that broad accent, like Garswood and Haydock. They all spoke with a Wigan accent, raaaaight (or reet, as the case may be!).

Wigan speyk my arse!

And, Peter, I know Garswood used to be in Lancashire, under Ashton udc control, and is now in St.Helens, and you don’t like it being in St.Helens, do you?
So you make sure to point out that it didn’t ‘used to be’. Well, it isn’t in Wigan, it’s not even under Wigan council and it never was!

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 15:56
Last edited by tonker: 15th Jan 2022 at 16:09:01

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15382)

Tonker

Can I add my two-peneth to this conversation

In my opinion the Ashton accent, which is a Lancashire accent, has been watered down by the Liverpool accent, caused by the mass migration of the mushroom people in the 1960s and 70s, the younger Ashton people have a different accent to the older ones, and I think that the new accent sounds better, it is not as rough as the older Lancashire accent.

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 16:28

Posted by: PeterP (11305)

Tonker I know Garswood/DG where part of the Wigan area and are now under St Helens area and I am not bothered one way or the other. Its over 46 years since I moved from D/G and don't have any living relatives at D/G but still have relatives around Garswood.

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 17:25

Posted by: Platty (2107)

Tonks: why has the thread on Nandy been taken off, did she phone you?

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 17:38

Posted by: tonker (27928) 

She sent me a text.
I couldn’t repeat it on here, thorry!


PeterP said - “Tonker I know Garswood/DG where part of the Wigan area and are now under St Helens area “

Peter, Garswood (which Downall Green is a part of) has NEVER been part of the Wigan area no more than the WN postal area.
What’s the Wigan area anyway?
I’d call Garswood in the Garswood area, which is part of the Ashton area. Haydock is in the Haydock area.
St.Helens is a borough, named after a church, which contains towns.
Wigan is a town.
Wigan borough is a borough named after a town, which contains other towns. The other towns are not Wigan.
To save confusion, local government areas should not be named after a constituent town.

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 19:37
Last edited by tonker: 15th Jan 2022 at 19:53:07

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15382)

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Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 19:50
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Posted by: tonker (27928) 

Erin (madamemurray) always says she’s from Massena.
Never has she said she’s from Ottawa!

Replied: 15th Jan 2022 at 20:07

Posted by: dougie (5019) 

my address was always DY @ Popular Avenue, North Ashton. Nr Wigan. Lancashire. if I still lived there that's what it still would be with the post code WN4 added.

Before about 1974 Garswood/Seneley Green was in the North Ashton Boundary before the mix-up that took place, I knew this was going to happen long before 1974,

give us the old boundary line as YOU knew it from the S bend on Billinge Road to the A49 Warrington Road, before the change

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 11:10

Posted by: bentlegs (5310)

Tommy T Tha reet mi owd cocker, Cut thesell a piece uv cake.

Replied: 16th Jan 2022 at 15:03

 

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