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Wigan Bus conductress 1974
Wigan Bus conductress 1974
Photo: Scaramouche
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Item #: 35804
Found this on the WIGAN TODAY site
Young 'clippie' Pat Rainford takes part in a feature by the Wigan Evening Post, 'A day in the life of one of Wigan's bus conductresses', in 1974.
Pat are you still around? It would be great if you could reply to this post.

Comment by: Veronica on 28th May 2025 at 17:25

I thought the conductors had gone by then. Just look how packed the bus is. Did the oldies have bus passes around that time?

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 28th May 2025 at 18:50

My late sister-in-law was was a conductress on the old LUT buses. That's a lovely photo.

Comment by: RON HUNT on 28th May 2025 at 18:54

It would be great if anyone on the photograph was still around? Can anyone recognise anyone?

Comment by: Strangeloop on 28th May 2025 at 19:09

Can't speak to 1974, as I had left the area about a decade prior to then.

I do know that, early 1960's, it was common for Corporation buses to be full.

I used to have to walk half a mile, and catch a train from Bryn Station to Wigan around 6 am. to catch my train in Wigan to get to Manchester or Preston.

Buses ran right past my front door, but at that time in the morning, they did not stop: they were already full!

Comment by: Veronica on 28th May 2025 at 21:11

I remember packed buses in the sixties and a conductor on the bus going to Turners at Hindley Green.

Comment by: Mick on 28th May 2025 at 22:05

The passengers look well dressed, so the bus could be a 333 to High Moor via Shevington, and the man looks familiar to me, but I can't put a name to him.
And Frank Orrell is a Shevington lad, so he could have taken the photo on his way home from work.

Comment by: Stuart on 29th May 2025 at 07:07

It can't be a 333 because the bus is a double decker ( a PD3 to be exact - you can tell by the rear emergency door). The picture would have been taken around the time that Wigan Corporation was absorbed into Greater Manchester PTE (April 1974) but conductors and conductresses were still around until the early 1980s when the last of the front-engined double deckers were finally withdrawn. I do recognise a few faces but cannot put names to them. My guess is this is a No.2 or 2A from Beech Hill to Ashton via the town centre. If I recognise some faces, it is on it's way into Wigan from Beech Hill.

Comment by: Veronica on 29th May 2025 at 09:31

Most older ladies wore their best hats to go shopping sometimes they left them on all day at home. That’s how I remember old ladies in Scholes. It wasn’t all clogs and shawls when I was a little ‘un in-the fifties. Wigan Lane was the posh place in those days and buses did run up there. Mind you I wouldn’t know which numbers on the buses as it was usually going up to the Infirmary that we went up tree lined Wigan Lane.

Comment by: Irene Roberts on 29th May 2025 at 10:01

I'm amazed the Shevy lot were on the bus at all....I'd have thought they's have been in their Rolls Royces or Bentleys.

Comment by: Frank Orrell on 29th May 2025 at 10:18

I took this photo when Pat was a reporter on the Post and Chronicle for a few years. She lived in Standish and after getting married emigrated to New Zealand where she became secretary or had a job with some close connection to the Prime Minister of the country. I don't know her current situation.

Comment by: Mick on 29th May 2025 at 11:33

Double-deckers used to run up to Shevington and High Moor and down to the Railway pub in Appley Bridge, where they turned around.
Living at the end of Church Lane, I could run and jump onto the back platform of a double-decker bus, then jump off again as it approached the road junction.

Comment by: Veronica on 29th May 2025 at 12:05

If only some of us left here had the same idea as Pat. Good on her emigrating to New Zealand I bet they have never looked back. The sixties was a good time to emigrate. Very brave though I must say I have friends who went to Australia they have a wonderful life.

Comment by: Jarvo on 29th May 2025 at 13:25

Shevington was voted the poorest place to live in 1970. Fact. :(

Comment by: CJAlan on 29th May 2025 at 14:32

Just out of curiosity - when were conductors discontinued on buses? I remember as a youngster travelling on the original orange coloured GMPTE buses in the 1980s into town when the station was on Hope Street and by then there was just the driver in his/her cab. Occasionally the Inspector would grace the bus to check valid tickets but they were usually random and would hop on and off different buses rather like the revenue protection people we see on trains. I’m assuming if this picture was 1974, then the role of the bus conductor didn’t last much longer.

CJ

Comment by: Veronica on 29th May 2025 at 15:16

Does that mean Paupers lived in the village?
Well who’d have thought it! I thought Scholes was supposed to be Pauper's Paradise.

Comment by: CJAlan on 29th May 2025 at 15:58

Just out of curiosity - when were conductors discontinued on buses? I remember as a youngster travelling on the original orange coloured GMPTE buses in the 1980s into town when the station was on Hope Street and by then there was just the driver in his/her cab. Occasionally the Inspector would grace the bus to check valid tickets but they were usually random and would hop on and off different buses rather like the revenue protection people we see on trains. I’m assuming if this picture was 1974, then the role of the bus conductor didn’t last much longer.

CJ

Comment by: RON HUNT on 29th May 2025 at 16:36

FRANK a case of "LOCAL GIRL MAKES GOOD"
So she wasn't a "PROPER CLIPPIE" then. Just a 'Stand in' for the photo. ?

Comment by: CJAlan on 29th May 2025 at 17:25

Just out of curiosity - when were conductors discontinued on buses? I remember as a youngster travelling on the original orange coloured GMPTE buses in the 1980s into town when the station was on Hope Street and by then there was just the driver in his/her cab. Occasionally the Inspector would grace the bus to check valid tickets but they were usually random and would hop on and off different buses rather like the revenue protection people we see on trains. I’m assuming if this picture was 1974, then the role of the bus conductor didn’t last much longer.

CJ

Comment by: ADMIN on 29th May 2025 at 19:50

CJAlan STOP uploading the same comment.... I've deleted the same comment now 6 times.

Comment by: Stan on 9th June 2025 at 11:14

Regarding conductors.
There were conductors on the 629 Abbey Lakes route until the mid 1980s.
I used to use the service 5 days a week going to work, until I moved house in October1984. At that time, I think there were only two conductors left at the Melverley St depot; both working the 629 route.
One was a little chap with dark hair and glasses. He always wore clogs, when working. I think his name may have been Bob.
The other was an Indian/Pakistani man.

Comment by: Arthur on 12th June 2025 at 10:04

The word chippie originally used for female bus conductors just after the second world war from London transport, because of the clipping sound of the ticket machines.

Comment by: Garry on 12th June 2025 at 20:58

CJAlan...the Wigan bus conductors disappeared when the new Leyland Atlantean buses arrived in the mid 1960s operated by Wigan Corporation Transport, this ment the driver collected the fare and give tickets. In other words he did both jobs, but not sure if he got double pay ÷)

Comment by: Garry on 13th June 2025 at 08:15

Sorry should have been meant and not ment...at 20.58.

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