Wigan Album

Around 1967 I used to deliver groceries to some of the bungalows and houses at the bottom of Cromer Road Goose Green on the other side to here, and with the land sloping down into a valley the slag heap looked like a massive mountain and towered above them, I remember thinking at the time that I would have been very uneasy to be living there - and probably they were too with Aberfan still fresh in folks minds.

Though it did look very nice in Winter when covered with snow, it was like an Alpine scene.

WHY again are you copying and pasting images that are already on the site?????????????

A good photo of the industrial past of the area.I have not seen this photo before so thanks Alan.

It isn't the Pemberton Loop Line.

Pemberton station probably in the late 1960s. The cooling towers and Worsley Mesnes flats can be seen.

this is pemberton station , with the old colliery sidings. the pemberton loop line joined near or at little lane road bridge .the slag heap i think the goose greeners called it the "yo-yo"

The 'Yo Yo' was just out of shot to the right

My old stomping ground (or one of them) when I was a lad.

The Pemberton loop line was just passed Little Lane bridge the one you can see top left hand of the photo. The line branched to the right then on to Hindley. The line still goes to Wigan Wallgate.

As Scaramouche says, the photo is on the Album along with comments about this being the Little Yo-Yo with the Big Yo-Yo to the right of the photo - as Ron says.

So the big slag heap that I'd seen in the 1960s towering above the developments at Goose Green would have been the Big Yo-Yo and not this one, though this one looks very tall and with the other being even taller one wonders how they got tippers up to the tops to tip the waste. Original Pic. https://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=22076&gallery=Pemberton&offset=60

I now have really good idea where this picture was taken BUT I still can't see any steam trains !

Scaramouche sounds like a happy little soul. Can anyone brighten up his day???

Why should it be called the Pemberton loop line when really the line started at Goose Green on to Hindley.

You might as well ask why the railway station was called Pemberton Station when it's in Highfield.
The reason being, Highfield and Goose Green are both localities of Pemberton.

Absolute nonsense james Hanson.

RON ;you are correct ,the one in shot was smaller. the yo yo i was thinking of was at the bottom of lady lane ; cromer road.my wife informs me she played at the bottom of it as a little girl living in duke st. I think the highfielders had another name for the one in shot ?

Nonesense, Arthur? You obviouslyknow very little about the history of your surrounding area.

The Pemberton Loop should have been called the Wigan Bypass as it’s purpose was to bypass Wigan?

Pemberton until the late 19th century was a township seperate from wigan borough , highfield could have been in pemberton ? hence pemberton station.Further clues former labour club was Goose Green & south pemberton , the colliery[blundells] pemberton colliery ; there was road sign in Golborne,i think at the junction of heath st & bank st saying Pemberton

No AH. The word loop means exactly that, a line that exits a route then rejoins it!

Mr Spoon, Scaramouche is a little Silhouetto of a man, and with being Bohemian it would most certainly brighten up his day if you sang to him a Rhapsody whilst doing the Fandango.

Meanwhile James Hanson and John Noakes are doing their versions of Loop de Loop.
https://youtu.be/KaoCHdlUoLI

Arthur, the line's original job was to connect Liverpool to Bury and it went through Wigan.
That added time to the journey so, the Pemberton Loop was intruduced to bypass Wigan. So, Arthur, you're correct that a "Loop" leaves a line than rejoins further ahead.

AH and Arthur, when studying your area's history it's essential to know where to look and what to look for. Start with dropping the word - "borough". Wigan is a town, not a borough. The council are the borough.
Pemberton was a town in it's own right, only connected to Wigan by the road over Adam Bridge. A lot of the young 'uns don't know that, due to them never being told.

Read Pemberton's hiistory here - https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol4/pp78-83

And Bellenden is way off topic!

arthur ; your reply should be to john noakes Tonkington-smythe; wigan is a town [sorry] according to pemberton history the boundary was the river douglas [adam bridge] who is bellenden? do you mean Belhaven

Pemberton urban district was incorporated into the county borough of wigan 1904

Part of the deal was that Pemberton should have it`s own baths.

Tonkington-Smythe, what a laugh !

Even a two year old can make out it's know nowt about Wigan Tonker, people from Pemberton or Wigan don't need to read up on their history - they know it because they live there and its passed on down through the generations, want to know something local, ask a local!

Mmmm, seems too that Tonker's aliases are James Hanson and John Noakes, get down Shep - perrera nau!

the sidings are the disused blundells pit coal sidings from which trains where formed up from.at that time their had been a coal washery at blundells a class j94 being one of the steam locos doing the shunting.

Still no news on where the steam trains are !

I have seen and read this mans strange and provocative remarks on previous occasions and in other forums, He appears to be a pedant with an obsession for local geography and a desire to appear all knowing and humiliating others. No doubt he wears a woolly hat, carries a flask of tea wherever he goes and is not someone you would like to sit next to on a long bus/train journey

hindley george belhaven charlesgrey jameshansens and johnnoakes are all mac and tonkintonsmithe is tonker
they think we do not know.

I have seen the names mentioned in the communicate section Dougie. Juvenile behaviour and animosity appears rife throughout this website and the animosity it creates is the reason I choose not to participate. I assume they are grown adults but their actions suggest something else.

TONKER
if you read any book on the L and Y railway ,you would know that the loop line was devised and built so that L and Y express trains could compete time wise with the other railways for custom ie the LNWR for one. the loop line was used by the liverpool to leeds ,york and newcastle cross country expresses.the coal trains from the west yorkshire pits to the liverpool conurbation also used the line.a banking engine from the L nad Y mpd at prescott st providing the engine .this engine waited at the small siding next to the signalbox at westwood,in the bottom of the dip and would push at the rear of the goods trains all the way to upholland tunnel mouth where the gradient went downhill to liverpool these trains mostly terminated at at fazackerly sorting sidings.