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Hi Agertsch,
I tend to get a bit obsessed when I have a "case"! So no ironing done today!!! So you are descended from Benjamin. I think Elizabeth Griffiths was living with this son after the death of John Lloyd/Griffiths as she dies from the same address as Levi and is in the same grave. I'm sure that John Lloyd was John Griffiths' son, but I think he arrived shortly before Elizabeth and John's marriage, which was on December 23rd 1852 and so was oficially a "Lloyd". I can find no baptism, but I'm wondering now whether he was christened as a non-Conformist. You remember that there was a daughter Ann in the 1851 census, born in Manchester about 1846. Well, I decided to look whether any more children were born there. I found a Robert:

Name: Robert Lloyd
Baptism Date: 4 Oct 1848
Baptism Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Church: Manchester 2nd Primitive Methodist Circuit
Father Name: Peter Lloyd
Mother Name: Elizabeth Lloyd

(Manchester, non-Conformist Births and Baptisms 1758-1912)

Lancashire BMD gives the maiden name of the mother here as Hughes. The sub-district was London Road, and Robert Lloyd died aged 1 in this sub-district in 1849. So there was some kind of connection to Methodism. Mary Catherine was supposedly non-Conformist. So another child died. I fear both children with John Griffiths died in 1865 and 1872 respectively.

Ann Lloyd seems to have survived and married John Eastham, which you probably know.

I'd like to find John's baptism and Mary Catherine's burial, but that's just to wrap it up.


On the other hand, are you interested in going further back? I think Elizabeth's father Hugh Hughes may have married a Mary Griffiths in Mold, Flintshire in 1793. There seems to be a baptism of an "Ismael" to this couple in 1814 at Chester Road Weslyan Methodist, Holywell. But these are just first thoughts. Perhaps I'd better leave it and get some ironing done!

Linda